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02-27-2012, 01:02 PM
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It's an irrelevant and deflecting question. He's not good enough to displace top 6 players on contending teams. If he can't get that ice time, he's not putting up those points. And he doesn't have the game to be effective in a checking or defensive role. Pretty simple really.
Why isn't he good enough? What, teams don't need playmakers? Teams don't need a forward with a great vision? It seems to me like you are just sitting behind you're computer, arms folded, providing no insight on Parenteau other than your firm opinion he won't make any contending teams top 6, which is laughable and unsupported.

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02-27-2012, 01:04 PM
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No one's opinion on here does ...

He'd be about the same as Kennedy. More offense, less everywhere else. Doesn't fit with our system anyway. Bylsma wouldn't put up with him.
Ah yes, the guy who's career best numbers are 2 points more than Parenteau has assists this year.

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02-27-2012, 01:07 PM
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I don't want to derail the thread, but there isn't anyone in the league doing more with less and there isn't anyone in the league who has to do more right himself in order for his team to have a scoring chance. Give the Islanders a look one night there's no pens game on and just isolate on Tavares. He's a top-5 player at this point in his career. It's real easy to see.
Maybe you should watch some other players in the league because, I don't think Tavaras is playing with so little that you're saying. IMO

Moulson, Tavaras, PA- Parenteau

Harmonic, Streit

Not bad, could it be better? yes, but that is a good top unit. He's not playing with slouches here to me. Now if you're talking them not winning as a team because of lack of little talent? yes.

I won't respond anymore in this case for not derailing the thread either, but I had to respond.

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Ah yes, the guy who's career best numbers are 2 points more than Parenteau has assists this year.
LOL. PA and Tyler Kennedy comparison. hahahaha.

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Why isn't he good enough? What, teams don't need playmakers? Teams don't need a forward with a great vision? It seems to me like you are just sitting behind you're computer, arms folded, providing no insight on Parenteau other than your firm opinion he won't make any contending teams top 6, which is laughable and unsupported.
Yeah he's only top 5 in the ENTIRE league in assists. if he was on a contender he probably would have more points. Just because he is a late bloomer doesnt mean he isnt for real. Last year 54 pts and this year on pace for about 70. There are A LOT of teams that could use his playmaking ability.

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02-27-2012, 01:12 PM
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Really don't understand why a Penguins fan is spending the two hours leading up to the trade deadline in this thread telling everyone who will listen that Parenteau is garbage.

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02-27-2012, 01:13 PM
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Maybe you should watch some other players in the league because, I don't think Tavaras is playing with so little that you're saying. IMO

Moulson, Tavaras, PA- Parenteau

Harmonic, Streit

Not bad, could it be better? yes, but that is a good top unit. He's not playing with slouches here to me. Now if you're talking them not winning as a team because of lack of little talent? yes.

I won't respond anymore in this case for not derailing the thread either, but I had to respond.

Peace.
Agreed, the problem is that behind him there is no support and that the D, for the most part has problems with their lack of a good transition game.

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Yeah he's only top 5 in the ENTIRE league in assists. if he was on a contender he probably would have more points. Just because he is a late bloomer doesnt mean he isnt for real. Last year 54 pts and this year on pace for about 70. There are A LOT of teams that could use his playmaking ability.
Nope, he is similiar to Tyler Kennedy and is worse then Andrei Kostitsyn.

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02-27-2012, 01:24 PM
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I would take him on the Pens, we could use his skill and he has ties with Dan Bylsma. He would also gel with the Pens' French Canadian players in Pascal Dupuis, Kris Letang and Marc-Andre Fleury.

I didn't read through the thread, but what exactly are the Isles looking for?

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Islanders need to move PAP no two ways about it. In reality we are not making the playoffs and PAP will walk at the end of the season.

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02-27-2012, 01:28 PM
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I would take him on the Pens, we could use his skill and he has ties with Dan Bylsma. He would also gel with the Pens' French Canadian players in Pascal Dupuis, Kris Letang and Marc-Andre Fleury.

I didn't read through the thread, but what exactly are the Isles looking for?
A first round pick and a prospect.

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02-27-2012, 01:30 PM
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Not happening...sorry.

I can see a 2nd and a mid prospect at best.

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A first round pick and a prospect.
I respectfully decline.

I would do a 2nd + a mid prospect or 2, but not a 1st.

Not saying he's not worth it, nor am I saying the Isles won't get a 1st, the Pens just can't make that kind of deal.

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Isles wont make any moves today we will finished 13th in the east draft another foward who is not going to help and PAP and NAbby will be gone July 1st......

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Why isn't he good enough? What, teams don't need playmakers? Teams don't need a forward with a great vision? It seems to me like you are just sitting behind you're computer, arms folded, providing no insight on Parenteau other than your firm opinion he won't make any contending teams top 6, which is laughable and unsupported.
His skating is ... less than adequate. He's prone to giveaways. He's a perimeter player. He's soft. Is that quantitative enough?

Those tidbits combined with his increased production seeming to be based on chemistry with his current teammates will severely limit his value to other teams as a top 6 forward.

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02-27-2012, 01:36 PM
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Parenteau doesn't skate like Jeff Skinner, but saying his skating is "less than adequate" is probably a bridge too far.

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02-27-2012, 01:40 PM
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His skating is ... less than adequate. He's prone to giveaways. He's a perimeter player. He's soft. Is that quantitative enough?

Those tidbits combined with his increased production seeming to be based on chemistry with his current teammates will severely limit his value to other teams as a top 6 forward.
I wouldn't say Parenteau is a perimeter player or soft, he drives to the net and is active along the boards. I'd say his speed is average and hasn't been a problem this year with giveaways. I think you looked up a scouting report for last year on that last one.

I don't see how having chemistry is a con at all. He works well with others? No!!!!!

I'm done here. Quite obvious you and a few others have something personal against Parenteau.

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02-27-2012, 01:42 PM
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And about the TK stuff ... not saying he's worse than TK, just a similar situation to his last season when everyone with an offensive pulse on the Pens was injured and TK miraculously had his best stats ever. Didn't mean TK is/was a good player either.

Strawman more.

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02-27-2012, 01:47 PM
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Actually a PAP for Kennedy would be a pretty decent trade for the Islanders.

PAP is a UFA and may either 1. walk or 2. ask for some insane amount of money (relative to the Islanders).

Flipping him for a $2mil, 20 goal gritty energy winger like Kennedy is not as far fetched as it seems.

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02-27-2012, 01:48 PM
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Paul Martin + Tyler Kennedy + 2012 2nd/Carl Sneep

PA Parenteau
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2013 3rd

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02-27-2012, 02:16 PM
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I wouls Stongly consider that but you'll never get Paul martin to waive his NTC to come to the Island. He refused to come to the Island when we offered him more money that Pittsburg did as a FA.

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02-27-2012, 02:26 PM
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Yes....He is. If you actually watched him play you would realize he is better than you give him credit for. Much better than AK
AK has been putting out 25 goals on average for many years and he can be physical. Parenteau has had one good season.

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02-27-2012, 02:38 PM
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Parenteau isn't getting gimme points playing with JT.

From what I understand and have seen, he's been spending the last two months playing with Nielsen and Grabner. That's pretty good production if you ask me. He's getting center numbers playing wing, and a team like the Pens would kill for one more guy like that.

I'll go even further in saying that if Snow is asking for a 1st round pick, he should probably get it.

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02-27-2012, 02:42 PM
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Hurricanes offer Jared Staal and five gallons of white lightning.

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02-27-2012, 02:42 PM
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Love to see him go to Ottawa maybe a 3 way deal?

To Ott
Parenteau
Eaton

To NYI
Butler
Dacosta
2nd san jose
4th san jose

To San jose
Gonchar

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