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02-25-2012, 05:42 PM
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The first one was deflected twice and was going well wide before Petry put it in. The 2nd was a nice move and goal by Whitney.
The 2nd goal absolutely should have been stopped. Whitney made a nice move to get towards the goal but he fired a muffin right into Dubnyk's pad and it somehow squeezed through, horrible goal to give up. Also, he gave up the other goal which was another softy but got saved by the whistle.
Dubnyk is the definition of being really bad when he's bad but also bieng really good when he's good. Unfortunately there is more bad than good with him this season.

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They have an NHL goalie. We do not. They are a playoff team and we aren't till we get an NHL goalie.

Win and you're in. Next game Danis in, Dubnyk out. Kruegar in, Renney out. lol
No doubt.

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Although Dubnyk was *****, it wasn't his fault we lost the game. You can't win when you only score once.

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why was smith boo'd i missed like 10mins of first cause thought game was on tonight stupid afternoon games.

bright spot hopkins got point and we cant win em all need to stay 29th for a good pick
He played the puck behind his net early in the third and dumped it down the ice i think. Subsequently, he moved towards his net, but by then, Eager was trying to head back the ice and squeezed between Smith and his net. Smith dove as if though he was shot in the chest even though eager barely touched him. Eager got an interference penalty.

EDIT: actually i think it ended up being tripping

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I understand why Phoenix plays the way they do, but they'll always be first round fodder. The elite teams in the NHL will break through their system.
Problem is that they're leading their division now because San Jose is dogging it.

First round match up: Phoenix/Nashville.

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1. Attend practice
2. Concuss head coach so ass. coach gets behind the bench
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why was smith boo'd i missed like 10mins of first cause thought game was on tonight stupid afternoon games.

bright spot hopkins got point and we cant win em all need to stay 29th for a good pick
Eager grazed him when leaving the Phoenix zone and Smith responded with a blatant belly flop. Eager was called for goaltender interference. Once the crowd saw what Smith did on the big screen they proceeded to let him have it for the rest of the game.

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Although Dubnyk was *****, it wasn't his fault we lost the game. You can't win when you only score once.
Bad goals deflate a team. So, yeah, it's mainly his fault.

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02-25-2012, 05:45 PM
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3 goals dubynk was fine, funny look at smith cut outta dallas cut outta tampa everyone thought he was a backup now suceeding in phoenix.

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I'm not too disappointed.

A few things I'd like to point out:

- I don't know what happened, but this team over the course of the season has gotten better at cycling the puck. Make no mistake, today we controlled the board in a big way against a team who plays with strong fundamentals, which includes puck protection and board play. Really impressed with this improvement as the season progresses.

- We really could use an offensive D-man from the backend. Whitney looks to be quicksand and isn't really that guy anymore. Gilbert has taken more of a defensive role. A guy like Vish or Karlsson or Green could've been the difference for us tonight.

- It's absolutely amazing to think we have 3 all word offensive talents on this team in RNH, Eberle and Hall. Amazing.

- Smid, Petry and Gilbert all represent good development of his team aside from the forwards. I have to give Steve Smith some props. His work with defensemen is paying off. The aforementioned 3, and Peckham have really helped. Those 3 look good defensively. Smid looks like a new player. Good along the cycle, smart hitting, blocking shots and pinching in smart situation (take note Whitney).

- Bummed with Dubnyk's performance, but this is part of a young goalie's development. It's completely random and some goalies find their game in their late 20's. It is what it is.

Regardless, onwards and upwards.
I don't know if Dubnyk is actually even developing. His game, like his old WHL days, mainly depended on using his size and average positioning to stop shots. Also, he always has difficulty "knowing" where the puck is...one of those types of goalies that feel where the puck is rather than actually know its location

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Dubnyk's lateral movement is bad. That isn't going to just improve as he develops.

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Gotta give Doan credit, that's exactly how a captain should rise to the occasion.

Hall, Nuge, Hemsky had a great game I thought. Eager had his legs moving constantly, and the Petry-Smid pairing is finding consistency.

Thought Eberle was fighting it a bit today.

Whitney and Dubnyk get the ugly of the good, the bad, and the aforementioned.

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02-25-2012, 05:50 PM
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I hate to say it because it's been said so often the past few years, but that's a loss the Oilers can build on. The effort was there, they just need to learn how to play against teams like that. It's dissappointing to lose, but I take solace in that they didn't quit. (and that they dogs put some space between them and the Flames...)

That being said, what a frustrating game.
And I'm with Moonlapse Vertigo. I hate Whitney and I hate Doan.


Call it irrational... whatever. There's just something about both of them that I find repugnant.

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02-25-2012, 05:52 PM
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You forgot to add that Hemsky is a god of the blueline giveaway.
Fixed.

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02-25-2012, 05:53 PM
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You forgot to add that Hemsky is a god.
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Although Dubnyk was *****, it wasn't his fault we lost the game. You can't win when you only score once.
Yes you can if your goalie shows up.

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Difference in this game was goaltending, no doubt. Smith was good and Dubnyk gave up 2 deflating goals.

1 weak goal and 1 bad goal. Down 2-0 and chasing game.

Dubnyk is averaging 1 weak/bad goal a game. Shutout last game, gave 2 away this game. Is he going to be a star #1 goalie? I doubt it.

He can be a 1a at best. We need another goalie in the near future.

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Hall - RNH - Hemsky played great. We cycled the puck really well. Eberle/Gags had off games. Whitney and Dubnyk played like hot garbage.

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Anyway, whatevs. Phoenix is hot right now and nobody seems to have an answer for their system in a one game capacity. Plus their win hurts Calgary.

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Hopping on the "**** Doan and Whitney" bandwagon.

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Bad goals deflate a team. So, yeah, it's mainly his fault.
We're about to rush back, and Duby let's in that 3rd goal with just a couple minutes left, HUGE deflation point.

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Play MPS with Gagner/Eberle or Hall/Hemsky or RNH .... ffs, Renney.

Smyth can play with Horcoff.

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Play MPS with Gagner/Eberle or Hall/Hemsky or RNH .... ffs, Renney.

Smyth can play with Horcoff.
Agreed. Eberle looked average today but that's because he had to play with Smyth. We need some size down the middle and hopefully Grigorenko can give us that.

I hope we draft 2nd or 3rd so we can pick up Grig or Murray.

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Hopping on the "**** Doan and Whitney" bandwagon.
Doan will do well in Quebec next year...

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Fixed.
Players who like to carry the puck have more turnovers. Get over it. It doesn't change the fact that Hemsky still played great.

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goaltending was average. not terrrible as some suggest

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