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03-11-2012, 12:44 PM
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I thought the Bs were high on him, but he was just currentley injured?
I believe he is back from the injury this weekend. It was a wrist that kept him out only a week. Still the B's signed Turco.

The B's may be high on him but Rask is the future goalie and Khudobin was leaving for Russia this year until the B's gave him a nice contract. He will not be happy as a backup he would be happy playing behind Marty next year knowing he'd be the future starter.

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Nicely done. What was the opposite condition of the bet, if Palmieri had scored first?
My ticket to the Yankee game when the Twins come into town.
And: buying a Foster jersey....

Zidlicky is temporarily my favorite player right now.


Apparently he wants to put up stakes for the fate of Parise this summer, he's dumb enough for me to accept.

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I don't care enough about the argument to spend any time looking up stats. You're the one posting retarded, contrarian opinions, you waste your time trying to make the stats give weight to your opinion. The entire realm of statistics says that there is no 100% definitive answer, just future predictions based on odds derived from... you guessed it, past results! I will bet you that there is a greater win rate for a team that beats another easily 5 out of 6 times in the regular season if they meet in the playoffs. Go ahead, compile the stats. Your argument has no merit whatsoever.

I'm done wasting time with this crap.
My argument has no merit? Come on dude. You're better than this. I never once mentioned this 100% stuff. I never said that if it doesn't happen 100% of the time it isn't reliable. There are too many occurences of this happening to simply call an instance where it does happen an anomaly. I consider anything over 10% a significant percentage. That's why I asked for to take a guess on what you think the percentage is.

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My ticket to the Yankee game when the Twins come into town.
And: buying a Foster jersey....

Zidlicky is temporarily my favorite player right now.


Apparently he wants to put up stakes for the fate of Parise this summer, he's dumb enough for me to accept.
Don't we have like 22 million in cap space next season.........I would accept that bet.

*according to cap geek*

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03-11-2012, 12:56 PM
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Statistical significance is based on sample size, not some random percentage pulled out of thin air.

I'm better than what? Your argument doesn't have merit. Saying that system matchups have no bearing on playoff results is completely asinine. I'm not wasting any more time with you.

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03-11-2012, 12:59 PM
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Don't we have like 22 million in cap space next season.........I would accept that bet.

*according to cap geek*
He's going to push the win in my favor if he decides to sign anywhere but the Wild. That kinda dumb.

I'm definitely taking that bet.

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Regular season H2H record has almost no predictive value when it comes to playoff matchups when discussing teams of fairly equal ability.

It's like a hitter who goes 10/20 against a certain pitcher. In 99% of cases, extremes like that are the result of random fluctuation and regress to the mean. Same goes for four to six regular season games in the NHL.

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i would be stunned if zach signed with the wild. he wants to win, and they're 8 points out of 8th.... ???

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anyone know when travis is supposed to start practicing with the team again?

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He's going to push the win in my favor if he decides to sign anywhere but the Wild. That kinda dumb.

I'm definitely taking that bet.
Definitely do. He must be really convinced that Parise is going to sign there. If/When it doesn't happen, be sure to tell us about his reaction.

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anyone know when travis is supposed to start practicing with the team again?
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he really did die, huh?

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he really did die, huh?
This is from Thursday, I've been wondering the same thing:

I didn’t really get a chance to talk to either other than to say hello. I asked Zajac when he thinks he’ll be ready to join the team for practice and he said, “Eventually.”

“I’m just working on my conditioning,” Zajac said.

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Just posted this in the out of town scoreboard thread, but it's better suited here. I'm sure a lot of people won't like this opinion, but oh well.


Lou usually don't bring back backups, but he did this year for Hedberg. Don't see why he won't this Summer. With some people[Myself not being one of them] questioning if Marty can go at it next year, or go at it 60 games a year we need a solid backup. It's too much of a liability to bring those guys up as backup right now. It is valid, and legit to question if Marty can go at it for 60 games next year just, because he'll be 40, and he's played more games than any Goaltender of all time. The age is there, and so is the wear, and tear. I'd love to see him back, and I'd love to see Hedberg back.

Now I see a lot of ''What better way to groom a new Goaltender by keeping Marty around to show one of our prospects the ropes?'' I don't know if it's worth it. If Lou don't bring back Moose he will likely sign another established guy with experience. I would rather it be Moose. We all know him, we all like him, we all know what we're getting with him, he's a fan favorite, he's reliable most of the time, he's capable of being a starter if Marty goes down. We don't have the defensive play we used to for Kinkaid, or Frazee to come in, and win games like Clemmensen when Marty went down in 08/09. Also who would you rather see Moose or a guy like Clemmensen who is a UFA again, or Marty Turco? I'm going with Moose. We will have had him 2 seasons, and he's proven to be reliable.

I know people are gonna tell me I'm wrong, and think we should give a younger guy a chance, and I think we should give a younger guy a chance, but it's probably best when Marty is gone. At the same time these same people are the ones saying ''Play Hedberg more, play Hedberg more.'' I would love to see one of them play a few games next season to be given a shot. That would be good for Frazee, Kinkaid, or Clermont, or even Wedgewood if he's ready.

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03-11-2012, 02:32 PM
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The four names you mentioned will be backups with this team. Anton Khudobin has a similar style to Brodeur.

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03-11-2012, 02:33 PM
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The four names you mentioned will be backups with this team. Anton Khudobin has a similar style to Brodeur.
Do you think it's a good idea to start those guys what could be 40 games a season with no NHL experience at all?

EDIT - I don't know about Frazee. He could become a Clemmensen type backup in 2 years. He's turning 26, and Lou let go of Mckenna cause he was up there at like 27. We've had Frazee in our system for years. Kinkaid probably has a better chance.

I'm more into Wedgewood, and Clermont. I haven't seen Clermont play, but I'm going on his age right now, and he's only 20. How has he been doing?


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Statistical significance is based on sample size, not some random percentage pulled out of thin air.

I'm better than what? Your argument doesn't have merit. Saying that system matchups have no bearing on playoff results is completely asinine. I'm not wasting any more time with you.
I never threw any insult at you. Don't know why you're doing it to me.

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Regular season H2H record has almost no predictive value when it comes to playoff matchups when discussing teams of fairly equal ability.

It's like a hitter who goes 10/20 against a certain pitcher. In 99% of cases, extremes like that are the result of random fluctuation and regress to the mean. Same goes for four to six regular season games in the NHL.
Especially when you consider how many vairables take place during the rgular season.

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Boring Trap,

I read a lot of the conversation that I missed and I come to the same conclusion.

If there is one thing in someone else's argument that you can attack, you do.

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Come on guys we still arguing over playoff matchups? Let's argue over who should be backup next year if Marty returns? I say MOOOOSSSEEEEEEEE!

We know what we're getting with him, he's reliable, fan favorite, been playing for 2 years here, one of the best backups in the league I'd say.

Don't know if it's worth bringing up one of the other guys especially if Marty goes down like he did this year, and the year before, and they need to start 40 games. Could be too much of a liability cause they've never played. I think we should wait until Marty goes to permanently make one of those guys backup. Would be good to start them a few games like the Islanders start Poulin, and Nilsson while having Nabokov, and Montoya.

I personally think if Lou won't keep Moose he's going to sign another established guy anyway. I'd rather it be Moose, than Scott Clemmensen, or Marty Turco or somebody.

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Statistical significance is based on sample size, not some random percentage pulled out of thin air.

I'm better than what? Your argument doesn't have merit. Saying that system matchups have no bearing on playoff results is completely asinine. I'm not wasting any more time with you.
I honestly don't think you understood what I meant. You said something along the lines of "a lot more often" or a " hell of a lot more". What do you mean by that? That's a subjective statement that can be interpreted in different ways.

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Kuhdobin plays a very similar style to Marty and could benefit most from playing under him. The guys is a stud and played in a few NHL games. He's ready at the Nhl

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Dude, we get it, you like Khudobin. You don't need to say it 15 times in every thread.

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LOL MJB, and Hlaverty have the same avatar image. Only Hlaverty's is much smaller.

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