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Molodezhnaya Hokkeinaya Liga (MHL) - Part II

View Poll Results: Does the MHL need a NEW thread for the 2013/2014 season?
Yes, it would be more convinient 1 25.00%
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03-11-2013, 07:19 AM
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good news, some teams (khm-khm Red Army develop talent) and some teams (khm-khm Omsk, Magnitogorsk (less this year), etc) play 20-22 y.o. to have something to show for their schools.

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03-12-2013, 06:08 AM
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Play offs start today, Almaz - MVD are entertaining each other as we sepak and one can watch it online.

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going back to Steel - 30% of the roster hasn't played much during the season were brought down from VHL/KHL, where they really didn't do much if at all. Can't they just make a rule, that if a player played less then 50% of his games in the MHL he can't play in the play offs?

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going back to Steel - 30% of the roster hasn't played much during the season were brought down from VHL/KHL, where they really didn't do much if at all. Can't they just make a rule, that if a player played less then 50% of his games in the MHL he can't play in the play offs?
Ye it's dumb that some teams are getting insane reinforcements. That is how Red Army won their cup with Andronov, Kulemin, Sergeyev, Pashnin who were clearly way above that level...

Remember the Kuznetsk of first year in MHL making it to the finals thanks to Bobrovsky, Orlov and Kitsyn? Next year they were a bottom dweller.

Or Voronin- a 2011 WJC Gold medalist still playing in MHL - hmm.

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yes, even the year Red Army won the cup, I was extremely against reinforcements... glad Magnitka lost, still think they win the series.

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03-14-2013, 09:29 AM
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loving the fact that Toplar is putting up a good fight!

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I thought as of this season they had a rule with maximum 12 games to be played in another league not to be eligible for the play offs in the MHL. It's clearly not observed, any idea?

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I didn't even listen to this yet, as I see the name of the speaker I know it's cheese and baloney.

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I didn't even listen to this yet, as I see the name of the speaker I know it's cheese and baloney.
so I will copy his words in russian

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Правильно ли, что молодые игроки "Металлурга" будут продолжать сезон в составе "Стальных Лис"?
Тут есть две стороны медали. Для нас не главное одержать победу любой ценой в МХЛ. Я думаю, это не лучший вариант, если молодые игроки "Металлурга" будут сейчас играть за "Стальных Лис". Хотя, возможно, так будет правильно. Поэтому будем искать компромисс. Потому что ребята 94, 95, 96 годов рождения заслужили играть в плей-офф и получить возможность показать себя в таких играх. У них тоже должен быть выпускной экзамен. Что касается наших игроков, Косова, Здунова, Малиновского, мы все понимаем, что уровень молодёжного хоккея они уже переросли.
http://www.championat.com/hockey/art...gi-sezona.html

If I get it, he said it is not best option if KHLers play MHL PO. I think it is right attitude, the same as you want.

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so I will copy his words in russian


http://www.championat.com/hockey/art...gi-sezona.html

If I get it, he said it is not best option if KHLers play MHL PO. I think it is right attitude, the same as you want.
now look at their roster in the MHL play offs...This guy is so full of s....t, it's not even funny, NEVER listen to him.

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Yes, there are guys who should not be in MHL anymore. On the other hand, VHL farm was eliminated in PO... what should these guys do? I am sure they would play VHL PO, if Orsk still played. Grigorenko, Lebedev, Solovyov, Shenfeld played VHL PO.

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Yes, there are guys who should not be in MHL anymore. On the other hand, VHL farm was eliminated in PO... what should these guys do? I am sure they would play VHL PO, if Orsk still played. Grigorenko, Lebedev, Solovyov, Shenfeld played VHL PO.
same as the rest of the Magnitka Roster is doing - practice with the big club

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03-15-2013, 10:17 AM
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Департамент проведения соревнований доводит до Вашего сведения, что в матчах №№10,14 1/8 Чемпионата Молодежной хоккейной лиги – Первенства России по хоккею среди молодежных команд сезона 2012-2013 годов между командами Стальные Лисы г.Магнитогорск - Толпар г.Уфа, состоявшихся 13 и 14 марта 2013 года, командой Стальные Лисы были нарушены статьи 55 и 68 п.6 Регламента Чемпионата Молодежной хоккейной лиги – Первенства России по хоккею среди молодежных команд сезона 2012-2013 годов.

В соответствии со статьей 55 Регламента Чемпионата Молодежной хоккейной лиги – Первенства России по хоккею среди молодежных команд сезона 2012-2013 годов в заявке команды на отдельно взятый матч не может быть более 19 хоккеистов, включая 2 вратарей, из них для самостоятельных клубов - не более 4 человек 1991 года рождения, для клубов, имеющих команду КХЛ/ВХЛ, - не более 3 человек 1991 года рождения. Дополнительно клуб может заявить 3 человека 1995 года рождения и младше. Общая заявка на матч, таким образом, может составить 22 игрока.

В соответствии с пунктом 6 статьи 68 Регламента МХЛ клуб обязан не допускать участие в матче хоккеистов, не имеющих право выступать в составе команды, а также тренеров или должностных лиц клуба, не имеющих права принимать участие в матче.

В обоих матчах в заявке команды Стальные Лисы на каждый матч были включены и принимали участие по 22 игрока, из которых только двое были 1995 и 1996 г.р.(П.С.Медведев 1995 г.р. и Д.В.Каменев 1996 г.р.), что является нарушением требований Регламента Чемпионата Молодежной хоккейной лиги – Первенства России по хоккею среди молодежных команд сезона 2012-2013 годов.
Результаты матчей №№10,14 1/8 Чемпионата Молодежной хоккейной лиги – Первенства России по хоккею среди молодежных команд сезона 2012-2013 годов аннулируются и команде Стальные Лисы г.Магнитогорск засчитываются технические поражения в вышеуказанных матчах.

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same as the rest of the Magnitka Roster is doing - practice with the big club
ok man. I think that it is better for 19-21 yrs guy to play games than practice. I would prefer playing VHL instead of MHL.

Still, this help from KHL does not help Steel Foxes Easy win for opponent - games annulled
http://mhl.khl.ru/news/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=279759

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you was faster. Seems it was a mess in Steel foxes front office

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ok man. I think that it is better for 19-21 yrs guy to play games than practice.
But 17 - 19 year olds don't need to to play, do they? Once again, brilliant.

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But 17 - 19 year olds don't need to to play, do they? Once again, brilliant.
try to read all post not half of it.

I wrote this as well

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ok man. I think that it is better for 19-21 yrs guy to play games than practice. I would prefer playing VHL instead of MHL.

Still, this help from KHL does not help Steel Foxes Easy win for opponent - games annulled
http://mhl.khl.ru/news/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=279759

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you was faster. Seems it was a mess in Steel foxes front office
players that outgrew the level of the MHL will, imho, not benefit from playing there. Since they are better they may develop bad habits, they are better off practicing with the big club. The players that made the play offs should be the ones playing in them, trying to develop into something.

Also, what of the rule where a player who plays more than 12 games in KHL/VHL cannot play in the MHL play offs?

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players that outgrew the level of the MHL will, imho, not benefit from playing there. Since they are better they may develop bad habits, they are better off practicing with the big club. The players that made the play offs should be the ones playing in them, trying to develop into something.
agree, it makes sense.

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I have never heard about it. I like it, email to MHL

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agree, it makes sense.


I have never heard about it. I like it, email to MHL
some people claimed they had seen it...but I guess may be it's a phantom.

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some people claimed they had seen it...but I guess may be it's a phantom.
rules are available at MHL website, people who claim it can quote it. I have no time to verify it now.

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rules are available at MHL website, people who claim it can quote it. I have no time to verify it now.
Same here...I asked them to find a reference and they failed.

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Nice that finally they get a slap on wrists, but I'm not sure they are the only culprits in the past seasons. For example, Khimik have iced some really old rosters as well, but not too sure about it.

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and Foxes are out in the first round! There's justice after all.

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Yes, nice to see that Magnitogorsk is out, half of their roster will be in-eligible due to age next year as well, big changes coming to the team. Also, surely Riga/Mytischi players should get bans for match fixing after three consecutive 1:7 games, no? What were the odd of such streak happening?

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