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02-26-2012, 06:56 PM
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I seriously can't believe the 3-4 of you that seem upset Howson won't move Nash for a lowball offer haha.
There were no "lowball" offers.

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02-26-2012, 06:58 PM
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Portzline on twitter puts odds that Nash opens 12/13 with the team at less than 5%.

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02-26-2012, 07:00 PM
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There were no "lowball" offers.
Of course, we don't have any firm facts of what those offers were, so I guess you're just guessing, eh?

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02-26-2012, 07:02 PM
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There were no "lowball" offers.
Any trade showcasing Brandon Dubinsky as the center piece is a low ball offer.

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02-26-2012, 07:06 PM
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FWIW

Kypreos twitter says Nash/Mason to Toronto for Schenn, Kadri, Colbourne, Riemer is done?????

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02-26-2012, 07:07 PM
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DBJ does a nice job here...except I think he got the last part wrong.

http://darkbluejacket.blogspot.com/2...medium=twitter

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02-26-2012, 07:11 PM
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Nevermind. It looks like it was a fake rumor.

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FWIW

Kypreos twitter says Nash/Mason to Toronto for Schenn, Kadri, Colbourne, Riemer is done?????
No it doesn't

https://twitter.com/#!/realkyper

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02-26-2012, 07:13 PM
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This guys says it is done. He says he is a scout for Toronto.

https://twitter.com/#!/OfficialAPower
And then he's making up fake tweets of insiders confirming it.

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02-26-2012, 07:13 PM
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FWIW

Kypreos twitter says Nash/Mason to Toronto for Schenn, Kadri, Colbourne, Riemer is done?????
Probably the fake account - here's the legit one:

http://twitter.com/#!/RealKyper

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02-26-2012, 07:14 PM
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And then he's making up fake tweets of insiders confirming it.
Yeah, I was just coming to post that. It looks like it was fake.

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RT @TSNBobMcKenzie There you go. Rick Nash to Toronto. Leafs get their man. Fans are happy.

RT @tsnjamesduthie I'm gonna have to quit tsn. No more news to break. #NashToLeafs

RT @DarrenDreger Rumors are true. Rick Nash has been traded to the Leafs. Official link coming soon.

RT @RealKyper Deal wasn't going to happen until Toronto's loss last night. Burke pulled the trigger. Nash will help this team a lot.

#Leafs RT @FedorTyutin GOOD LUCK TO RICK NASH IN TORONTO! WELCOMING OUR NEW TEAMMATES
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I admire the effort.

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02-26-2012, 07:16 PM
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LOL. He had me with the original tweets. He shouldn't have made those fake RT's. I clicked on those to see if they were real and saw they weren't.

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02-26-2012, 07:19 PM
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And Tyutin doesn't have a Twitter account anyway.

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02-26-2012, 08:17 PM
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Nothing is set in stone here. Still a bunch of posturing. Nash is "available immediately" for another 18 hours or whatever. Plenty of time to get a deal done. None of these experts say that the teams are way far off and breaking off a deal now is a common tactic when dealing with this sort of thing.

Any deal for Nash isn't going to take hours to hammer out, its been floated for a week plus at this point with Howson openly talking to teams, this is something that a team on the list can call and within 20 minutes the deal can be done. We are going to either see a team that really wants him show their true colors and pony up what Howson wants or he'll be moved at the draft most likely.

The die has been cast here, the writings on the wall, etc.

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02-26-2012, 08:55 PM
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I seriously can't believe the 3-4 of you that seem upset Howson won't move Nash for a lowball offer haha.
I believe his value is what he was offered, maybe a tiny bit more.

Please stop attacking others who think different.

Anyway, It is what it is. Hopefully someone does panic at the last second and trades for him.

Either way, I would consider it a failure by this front office if Nash is a Blue Jacket by 3:01 Monday.

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02-26-2012, 09:10 PM
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Either way, I would consider it a failure by this front office if Nash is a Blue Jacket by 3:01 Monday.
Regardless of return?

You realize Carter was the one the CBJ had to get rid of, right?

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02-26-2012, 09:15 PM
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Regardless of return?

You realize Carter was the one the CBJ had to get rid of, right?
I disagree.

I don't see 1) Why we should keep a guy so grossly overpaid for what he gives us 2) Why we should keep a captain who has totally failed in such role and 3) Keep a player when we are starting another rebuild.

Also, his value will diminish in the off-season, IMO. The urgency will be totally lost from all teams and thus the odds of getting a great return have fallen.

All of this, however is predicated on if they can get fair return. If not, they should already public state he won't be traded because blah blah blah Whatever creative lie they can manage themselves to ponder up.

Either way, the ship has sailed for me on Nash. He's not a franchise player nor is he someone we should be restructuring the team around. The time to strike was now and I believe that Howson and Patrick have blown that opportunity to get a massive return for Nash.

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02-26-2012, 09:18 PM
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I believe his value is what he was offered, maybe a tiny bit more.

Please stop attacking others who think different.

Anyway, It is what it is. Hopefully someone does panic at the last second and trades for him.

Either way, I would consider it a failure by this front office if Nash is a Blue Jacket by 3:01 Monday.
Addressing your post in full context, Howson probably has been offered equal value for Nash but this is a big and anything less than what he wants will be rejected.

We must be patient...


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02-26-2012, 09:18 PM
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The time to strike was now and I believe that Howson and Patrick have blown that opportunity to get a massive return for Nash.
Is it Monday night already? I thought it was still Sunday.

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02-26-2012, 09:20 PM
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Is it Monday night already? I thought it was still Sunday.
I am more than willing to eat my words if he does it all up.

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02-26-2012, 09:22 PM
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Since Columbus doesn't have to move Nash because of his age or expiring contract they have the luxury of saying "no" and trying again later if necessary. You can't move him for a collection of players and prospects that project to be 2nd or 3rd liners or part of 2nd or 3rd defensive pairings. You need to get guys with real impact potential a few years down the road or this trade becomes a complete disaster for the franchise.

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02-26-2012, 09:37 PM
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02-26-2012, 09:42 PM
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I am more than willing to eat my words if he does it all up.
I wouldn't read much into the fact that negotiations have broken off... Things will get serious again tomorrow later in the day as the low hanging fruit all disappear.

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02-26-2012, 10:06 PM
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Couple of questions....

1) Doubt they are on the list but anyone looked at what Ottawa could offer for Nash? Cowen, Zibanejad, Lehner, 1st. They now have Anderson and Bishop under contract through next year making Lehner potentially available (Probably not but....). They have other pieces too.

2) Knowing the importance of Rick Nash (some of you might not want to believe it) that goes beyond the on-ice, do you think there is any truth that he told Rick (AND his camp) that he'll only move him for the right offer and it would have to be big. I think this is A) a complement to Rick and B) and smart move.

3) So what if the list doesn't expand in the Summer. That doesn't mean the other teams on the list were involved at deadline time. Maybe there are a few teams that simply weren't involved right now but could be at the draft and get higher value with more teams (on the list) bidding.

I'm baffled at this point but more interested to see where the rest of the team ends up - here, there, wherever. I don't think Nash is the only existing contract Niles is trying to move.

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