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02-26-2012, 05:56 PM
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If Burke hitches his wagon to RW he may have to go down with him
MLSE won't let Burke have that much power without any results

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The best thing to happen to the Leafs will be to bottom out and get a top pick while sending Wilson home packing in the offseason. Let's hope this is the case.
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02-26-2012, 05:59 PM
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Has a GM ever publicly stated that he was thinking about firing a coach before the fact?

It seems to me you keep those thoughts out of the public to allow your coach to do his job.

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Ron Wilson:Leafs Coach for Life

Fletcher forgot to mention this obscure little clause in the contract when he announced Rotten Ronnie's hiring.

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Unless Burke makes 3 great moves tomorrow (top 6 f, + bottom 6 F + goalie) than he himself should be let go.

Guys ego is just too much. He's the problem now.

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If Burke hitches his wagon to RW he may have to go down with him
MLSE won't let Burke have that much power without any results
I don't know where you get the idea that MLSE will or wont do anything. They don't have a good track record to begin with. Second, they are changing structure so who knows how they will run things.

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if the issue keeps being the players and not the coach like burke insists then the issue is burke

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I'm assuming he's not contemplating making a trade either. That would require Burkie to actually do his job

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I really want to know what goes through Burke's head. The contract extension was the dumbest thing he could've done in my opinion. He took a relatively small sample size in which Ron had some success & decided to reward him for it.

I agree that Ron has to go, but I'd rather see him leave during the offseason. By the time the new coach gets to know the team, the season will be over.

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I really want to know what goes through Burke's head. The contract extension was the dumbest thing he could've done in my opinion. He took a relatively small sample size in which Ron had some success & decided to reward him for it.

I agree that Ron has to go, but I'd rather see him leave during the offseason. By the time the new coach gets to know the team, the season will be over.
i think he's the type of person that the more other people say he should do something he wont do it. regardless if its the right thing or not.

he's very george bush esque that way

the media should start asking about how long RW will be extended

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I asked this question in other threads with no answer. I am not asking this rhetorically or trying to take jabs at Wilson, I'm actually curious and would like to know.

Is there any other coach in NHL history that retained their job after missing the playoffs 4 years in a row?

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I asked this question in other threads with no answer. I am not asking this rhetorically or trying to take jabs at Wilson, I'm actually curious and would like to know.

Is there any other coach in NHL history that retained their job after missing the playoffs 4 years in a row?
Barry Trotz. But anyone could see it wasn't his fault. Plus he wasn't a HHOF coach at the time.

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i think he's the type of person that the more other people say he should do something he wont do it. regardless if its the right thing or not.

he's very george bush esque that way

the media should start asking about how long RW will be extended
I guess you're right; he is quite stubborn that way.

A little part of me still believes that Burke will fire Wilson if he doesn't make the playoffs. I can't even imagine Wilson staying if the Leafs don't make it. Just the thought of him staying after another potential year of failure just sounds outrageous to me.

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I guess you're right; he is quite stubborn that way.

A little part of me still believes that Burke will fire Wilson if he doesn't make the playoffs. I can't even imagine Wilson staying if the Leafs don't make it. Just the thought of him staying after another potential year of failure just sounds outrageous to me.
This is likely correct and will be the likely outcome of this season

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I asked this question in other threads with no answer. I am not asking this rhetorically or trying to take jabs at Wilson, I'm actually curious and would like to know.

Is there any other coach in NHL history that retained their job after missing the playoffs 4 years in a row?
It's a good question. I found the obvious:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...stical_leaders

Can't find what you are looking for (at least not easily).

Was interesting to see where RW's stats go as soon as you look at winning % rather than totals

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Wilson is going to be the coach until he dies, at which point Brian Burke will retire the coaching position in honour of the almighty Ron Wilson and his 600 wins.

All hail the 600 wins.

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What really bothers me about this is how he says he isn't even contemplating a coaching change.

It would be one thing if he said he's considered it and has decided he very likely won't fire Wilson, unless perhaps we have a complete collapse over the rest of the season or something like that, but apparently he isn't even thinking about it. Just seems stubborn and borderline foolish to me.

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02-26-2012, 07:14 PM
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It's a good question. I found the obvious:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...stical_leaders

Can't find what you are looking for (at least not easily).

Was interesting to see where RW's stats go as soon as you look at winning % rather than totals
He is close to top 5 in wins AND losses.

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02-26-2012, 07:17 PM
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What really bothers me about this is how he says he isn't even contemplating a coaching change.

It would be one thing if he said he's considered it and has decided he very likely won't fire Wilson, unless perhaps we have a complete collapse over the rest of the season or something like that, but apparently he isn't even thinking about it. Just seems stubborn and borderline foolish to me.
IMO it's proof of what a lot are saying around here. They are friends and it's conflicting BB ability to objectively evaluate the position. Saying that, BB wouldn't call out his coach publicly as it would cause a media storm (insert RW throwing Reim under the bus here).

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02-26-2012, 07:18 PM
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He is close to top 5 in wins AND losses.
As I've posted many times Ronnie is the Lenny Wilkens of the NHL. Even Wilkens won a title though.

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Of course not. Who is going to fire Wilson with 20 games to go? Tank Commander!

This is off season stuff.
Burke leading the tank charge

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Burke leading the tank charge
Battle of Kursk. Unfortunately we get to be the German Panzers.

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Missing the playoffs 3 straight years and giving your Head Coach an extension...Priceless.

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Burke would look like a gigantic horses ass coming across as incompetent himself, by extending his coach mid season for doing a good job, and then fire him 20 games later for doing a bad one.

So of course it not going to happen.
The way I interpreted it, Burke set a goal for Wilson to be in a certain place by Christmas. Short-term bonus. One year extension ensured that they weren't committed to him long-term, and paid him handsomely in case they had to drop him.

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The way I interpreted it, Burke set a goal for Wilson to be in a certain place by Christmas. Short-term bonus. One year extension ensured that they weren't committed to him long-term.
Just curious how long does Burke's contract run?

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