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03-18-2012, 10:39 PM
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Head-to-head tiebreakers may be posted tomorrow. Have I mentioned how much I hate my ISP?

Edmonton has been eliminated from the playoff race. Colorado and Phoenix (83 each) play each other again, as do Los Angeles and San Jose (82 each). There's a bit more to it than that, but...I still hate my ISP.

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Rangers clinch with a win tomorrow!


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Rangers clinch with a win tomorrow!

They clinch with a point.

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Sharks and Kings play twice right? All I know is, the west is one giant mess!!

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As likely as it is to make the playoffs can someone please explain to me how the Blues have mathematically clinched a playoff when there are currently eight teams that can beat their current 100 point mark? Check it out. The only team in the top 10 that can't reach the 100 point mark is Colorado.

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As likely as it is to make the playoffs can someone please explain to me how the Blues have mathematically clinched a playoff when there are currently eight teams that can beat their current 100 point mark? Check it out. The only team in the top 10 that can't reach the 100 point mark is Colorado.
That was my thought last night too. I actually took all of the western conference teams, and the team in 8th(that is before today's games) as far as if every team earned every point, was LAK in 8th place with 102 points.

It has to do with the other matchups left, and the fact that there are teams fighting for playoff spots that play each other(phx/dal, phx/sjs), and mathematically they all can't gain 2 points, so with all those combinations, let's say if phx beat sjs both times, etc. - then they are no longer able to make it.

I don't know what the combinations are, or the formula, but the NHL is a complex system because of the point system.

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As likely as it is to make the playoffs can someone please explain to me how the Blues have mathematically clinched a playoff when there are currently eight teams that can beat their current 100 point mark? Check it out. The only team in the top 10 that can't reach the 100 point mark is Colorado.
Because they way the schedule finishes for them its impossible for all of the to achieve it together someone will fail.

Edit: Beaten to it.

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03-19-2012, 10:26 AM
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Okay, here are scenarios for tonight.

The NY Rangers can clinch a playoff spot with a win OR an OT/SO loss against New Jersey

Montreal can be eliminated from the Northeast Division race with a Boston win against Toronto

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As likely as it is to make the playoffs can someone please explain to me how the Blues have mathematically clinched a playoff when there are currently eight teams that can beat their current 100 point mark? Check it out. The only team in the top 10 that can't reach the 100 point mark is Colorado.
lol Yeah, I came on here to ask that too. Is it my math or the NHL's cause it sure looks to me that Blues need 1 pt to clinch.

Nevermind: read on & got it now.

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They clinch with a point.
Yeah but I want it to be with a win

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The New York Rangers are going to the playoffs!

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The NY Rangers have become the first Eastern team to clinch a playoff spot.

For tomorrow, although it has been dubbed "Super Tuesday in the West" by poster ThePuckBaron, no one is able to clinch a spot or be eliminated. But in the West, a lot of jockeying for position can take place, as three games featuring spots #6-11 all playing against each other will be played.

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If Pittsburgh win tonight then they are all but through - the only thing meaning they aren't is the ROW against Winnipeg (Buffalo are 16 points back with 9 games remaining and a ROW of 27 meaning that if Pittsburgh win they'll be 18 points back with 9 games remaining and a ROW gap of 9 - the number of games)

A win for Pittsburgh compared to Winnipeg would mean they only need 1 more point to qualify, is that right?

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If Pittsburgh win tonight then they are all but through - the only thing meaning they aren't is the ROW against Winnipeg (Buffalo are 16 points back with 9 games remaining and a ROW of 27 meaning that if Pittsburgh win they'll be 18 points back with 9 games remaining and a ROW gap of 9 - the number of games)

A win for Pittsburgh compared to Winnipeg would mean they only need 1 more point to qualify, is that right?
Correct. Also, the Buffalo/Pittsburgh tiebreaker hasn't been determined yet, but the best Pittsburgh can manage would be a head-to-head tie (they currently trail 4-2).

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If the Rangers beat Detroit, they will clinch a top-7 seed.

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I have Phoenix listed as controlling their destiny and San Jose not. The reason is that, although both can finish with 100 points and both can finish with 38 R/OT wins, Phoenix currently has the upper hand with 30 such wins. San Jose has 29, but a game in hand. I don't have a great justification for it, but this is how I'm doing it...at least until things change tomorrow.

For tomorrow...

Pittsburgh can clinch a playoff spot with a Buffalo loss, OT/SO loss, or shootout win against Montreal.

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Pittsburgh has clinched a playoff spot; they are the second team in the East to do so.

For tomorrow...

Toronto can be eliminated from the Northeast Division race with a Boston win (regulation, OT, or shootout) against San Jose

St. Louis can clinch a top-2 seed for the Central Division champion with a win against Los Angeles AND a Dallas loss against Vancouver

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Pittsburgh has clinched a playoff spot; they are the second team in the East to do so.

For tomorrow...

Toronto can be eliminated from the Northeast Division race with a Boston win (regulation, OT, or shootout) against San Jose

St. Louis can clinch a top-2 seed for the Central Division champion with a win against Los Angeles AND a Dallas loss against Vancouver
How did Pitt clinch when Buffalo won in regulation?

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Pittsburgh has clinched a playoff spot; they are the second team in the East to do so.

For tomorrow...

Toronto can be eliminated from the Northeast Division race with a Boston win (regulation, OT, or shootout) against San Jose

St. Louis can clinch a top-2 seed for the Central Division champion with a win against Los Angeles AND a Dallas loss against Vancouver
Pittsburgh's magic number is still 1. Hopefully the Preds make them wait another day to clinch

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On NHL.com they haven't put an X next to Pittsburgh. I think they still need on point to clinch.

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If Washington loses tonight (in any way), Buffalo controls their own destiny for the playoffs.

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How many for the B's to clinch? I'm lousy at math and more complicated stats make my head spin.

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How many for the B's to clinch? I'm lousy at math and more complicated stats make my head spin.

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9 if they lose to Buffalo in regulation, 7 if they beat Buffalo in regulation, 8 if they beat them in OT.

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How did Pitt clinch when Buffalo won in regulation?
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Pittsburgh's magic number is still 1. Hopefully the Preds make them wait another day to clinch
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On NHL.com they haven't put an X next to Pittsburgh. I think they still need on point to clinch.
There's a very simple explanation.

When I was feeding the scores in, I punched that game into the wrong category, which gave me an inaccurate return.

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9 if they lose to Buffalo in regulation, 7 if they beat Buffalo in regulation, 8 if they beat them in OT.
So the last game of the season basically

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