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02-27-2012, 05:41 PM
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Well--I saw him enouigh over here in Europe to pick up somethings that I feel that those in North America over look. He reminds me of Schremp in many cases and we all know I was dead wrong on him

People love the youtube clips of omark (and schemp)

But there is more to hockey the penalty shots

tired of talking about Omark--there are too many holes in his playing ability to make it at the NHL level
Well, if you saw him "enough" in Europe, you would know that "penalty shots" played no role in his claim to fame in the SEL.
In fact, I can't recall him ever taking a penalty shot.
And there were no shootouts in the SEL when Omark played there.

So I guess you've seen the same shootout moves from the Swedish national team that made the rounds on the Internet before he headed over to North America.
Or possibly his one attempt in the KHL.

YouTube, though, had nothing to do with him making a name for himself in Sweden.
Carrying an underdog team on his back all the way to the playoffs had everything to do with it.

He still has a lot to prove in North America, that's for sure.
But labeling him another Schremp or a YouTube sensation is pretty unimaginative, IMO.

Anyway, why was this thread started again?
Omark threads never end well, so I shall leave this one alone now.
Got an early (2:30 AM) Oilers game to catch!

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That was from a few days ago, good on Omark. Having said that unfortunately he is going to be gone sooner than later in my opinion. either at the deadline or at the draft. I like Omark but think the oilers do not have in at all in their plans and if they don't move him back to Sweden he will go.
According to SN there was calls about Omark and the Oilers decided to keep him. I wonder if it's because they see him in the future plans or because the return wasn't worth it.

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Omark is good enough to be on the Oilers right now. But that doesn't prove Gregor wrong.

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Gregor did it to get rating and publicity...

and Omark complied helping Gregor out...
As everybody knows, the best way to get good ratings on the radio is to put out unfavourable tweets about fringe NHLers.

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According to SN there was calls about Omark and the Oilers decided to keep him. I wonder if it's because they see him in the future plans or because the return wasn't worth it.
If i was the management, i had been happy for a 2 round pick,because its better then nothing when omark bolts back to europe or they losing him on waivers because they cant send him up and down(3-4 games more),Cant see omark stay and waste 1 year more in the minors, underpayed and waiting for a big injury(out for the season) to occur. Linus can probably choose between almost every team in russia and the rest of the europe teams with a big wallet.

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Omark blows. Other then some sick shootout moves, the guy has nothing.

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02-28-2012, 06:25 AM
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Well screw that guy Gregor! Who needs him? I like Omark. He's confident, he isn't lazy and he's got an amazing imagination in the offensive zone.

With Hemsky signed for the next two years it's easy to say that Omark won't be playing in Edmonton's top-6 any time soon.

With Jones resigned and Smyth likely to resign it's pretty fair to say that Omark won't be in our top 9 either assuming that MPS gets 2nd/3rd line LW duty before Omark.

The big question is whether or not he can be patient enough to wait around for contracts belonging to Jones and Hemsky to expire... at the same time by then a guy like Pitlick should be ready to bring the size and tenacity our team needs...

There's a long hard road ahead of him, but I hope he thrives under the challenge and takes Hemsky's.

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02-28-2012, 06:31 AM
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Omark blows. Other then some sick shootout moves, the guy has nothing.
What, he blows because he managed 0.5PPG in his rookie season and didn't get to stick with the club this year because we're overloaded on the wings?

Some great logic you've got goin there.

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02-28-2012, 06:33 AM
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Can't disagree with you on that... but you've gotta admit that Pitlick stands a great chance at overtaking him within the next 1-2 years.

Correct me if I'm wrong.... but Hartikainen can play both wings as well can't he? If that's the case then I'd put him exactly where Omark is right now.

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02-28-2012, 06:49 AM
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"Omark will never be on a good team." Doesn't this imply moreso that the Oilers will never be good? Kind of a funny way to say it.
What it means to me is that only bottom feeding teams or teams starved for offense will give Omark a shot at the NHL level. Teams like Detroit, Vancouver, Pittsburg and Boston will never come calling for a guy like Omark.

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02-28-2012, 11:28 AM
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What it means to me is that only bottom feeding teams or teams starved for offense will give Omark a shot at the NHL level. Teams like Detroit, Vancouver, Pittsburg and Boston will never come calling for a guy like Omark.
I have heard that before this season Detroit was indeed intrested in acquiring Omark. Not saying they see him as a top 2 line player, just saying they were intrested.

Also its no suprise Omark is not getting dealt, he will be dealth when this season is over for picks or a D prospect. Oilers managment wanted to keep him for ahl playoff this year. For them its very important that the ahl team have succes. Unfortunatly for Omark that means he got the short end of things.

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What do you mean whats the point? Its an opinion, & not an unreasoned one. Im sure you have one. So does he. And hes in the business of giving his.
To me its disrespectful. It is the kind of thing if you can't or won't say it to someone directly then you shut your yap and keep to yourself.

No wonder people think Gregor is a clown

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I have heard that before this season Detroit was indeed intrested in acquiring Omark. Not saying they see him as a top 2 line player, just saying they were intrested.

Also its no suprise Omark is not getting dealt, he will be dealth when this season is over for picks or a D prospect. Oilers managment wanted to keep him for ahl playoff this year. For them its very important that the ahl team have succes. Unfortunatly for Omark that means he got the short end of things.
Yeah I'd be very displeased to sign a contract and play hockey for money.

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We're not married to Hemsky. There's nothing stopping Tambo from dealing Hemmer sometime in the next 2 years. Who knows, maybe Omark lights it up here and they deal Hemmer next season?

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We're not married to Hemsky. There's nothing stopping Tambo from dealing Hemmer sometime in the next 2 years. Who knows, maybe Omark lights it up here and they deal Hemmer next season?
Not saying he will get traded but the summer alone opens up many more trade possibilities for Ales then there were at the deadline for an unsigned Hemsky.

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Omark blows. Other then some sick shootout moves, the guy has nothing.
Totally 100% incorrect, you obviously have never actually watched the guy play.

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I think the opposite, omark will never be a top 6 in a bad team!
In a good team he has better chance to succed because he have a better D behind him and his defensive flaws are not exposed that much.
I think this is Gregor's point. He is a 1 dimensional player that good teams don't like, they would rather have 2 way players. He is filler on a team trying to be more complete, and once they get closer to that, he becomes expendable again.

And I agree.

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I have heard that before this season Detroit was indeed intrested in acquiring Omark. Not saying they see him as a top 2 line player, just saying they were intrested.

Also its no suprise Omark is not getting dealt, he will be dealth when this season is over for picks or a D prospect. Oilers managment wanted to keep him for ahl playoff this year. For them its very important that the ahl team have succes. Unfortunatly for Omark that means he got the short end of things.
Picks? Maybe a Pick.

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What, he blows because he managed 0.5PPG in his rookie season and didn't get to stick with the club this year because we're overloaded on the wings?

Some great logic you've got goin there.
No. He didn't stick because he wasn't putting up points and was playing attrocious defense. Lets not pretend like he was setting the world on fire at the start of the year, because he wasn't

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Omark is the man. BOSS swag i hope he makes it.

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Yeah I'd be very displeased to sign a contract and play hockey for money.
And for someone that is already rich and is settled for life that perhaps have other goals that doesnt concern money?

If your 25 and worked all your life to play in the nhl, yea you get kinda pissed your not getting traded, not getting a chance.

Omark wont play for the oilers anymore this year his 4games away from waivers assures that. They wont trade him due to okc run.
So he is stuck and there is no chance he will see nhl this season.

It is what it is, but yea nhl politics
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No. He didn't stick because he wasn't putting up points and was playing attrocious defense. Lets not pretend like he was setting the world on fire at the start of the year, because he wasn't
Lets not forget that we are second to last. Your talking like anyone has done anything good this season. Omark got 5games with low minutes and sat inbetwine the games.
Compare that to mps for example..

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Gregor is right; think of Rob Schremp ending up playing with NYI.

The point here is that just because it's possible a player could end up playing in the NHL for a bit, that does not mean that either (a) they have any value in organizations who want to win or (b) they have any trade value. You have the be a step above the "waiver quality" of player that's available by watching the waiver wire, before you have trade value.

Here's hoping the Oilers are able to pump and dump Omark over the summer into an asset the Oilers can use, before Omark runs off to Europe. I think some good stats in the AHL during a good playoff run could do the trick to entice a team to trade for him.

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And for someone that is already rich and is settled for life that perhaps have other goals that doesnt concern money?

If your 25 and worked all your life to play in the nhl, yea you get kinda pissed your not getting traded, not getting a chance.

Omark wont play for the oilers anymore this year his 4games away from waivers assures that. They wont trade him due to okc run.
So he is stuck and there is no chance he will see nhl this season.


Lets not forget that we are second to last. Your talking like anyone has done anything good this season. Omark got 5games with low minutes and sat inbetwine the games.
Compare that to mps for example..
Ummmm, Omark could easily come up to the Oilers and finish out the season here and then get sent back down to OKC for for a playoff run.

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