Koto: Schultz is -10, almost the worst on his team.
Oh good lord. +/- means nothing in terms of defensive aspects. Plus minus only shows OUTScoring at even strength, so if Schultz isn't a big scorer and only a defender at even strength, he will most likely get outscored.
Considering he was tops in EV and PK for Minnesota and his reputation as a defensive defenseman - I think he is minimum top 4 dman, with a possible top pairing shutdown capability.
Stauffer suggested the possibility last week when he noticed that Whitney, Petry and Gilbert all were similar types of dmen (college puck movers) and that Gilbert may be the one going out.
I think this trade addresses a need - which is the Oilers have a lack of strong defensive options. Teubert and Plante are still too far away and may lack the upside of being a top 4 defensive dman.
Same age, same contract expiry, similar dollars. So financially it's a wash. Defensive dmen are not usually paid as much as offensive dmen - so that may mean that Schultz may play a bigger role than Gilbert.
I'm of the same opinion as Cerebral, I actually don't mind this trade. It could be very good for both Minnesota and Edmonton as it addresses needs for both teams.
Last edited by Master Lok: 02-27-2012 at 01:04 PM.
I think most people here can agree that Schultz is the type of player the Oilers need, just not at the expense of one of our best defensemen. At best it makes it a lateral move, unless Petry takes another step forward next season.
I think Gibby may have requested to go home. He wasn't on this short roadie, right? He must've either asked out, or explicitly asked to go home, and Tamby told him that he'd get it done.
I like Schultz. I really like him, actually. I just don't think he's as good as Gilbert, all around. Gilbert's maybe a small step behind him in defensive coverage, but he's 2 steps ahead of him in offensive and puck-moving ability.
As I see it, Edmonton struggles the most with moving the puck up the ice and that's why they get hemmed in and scored on. It's not because, not in their top-4 right now anyway, they are unable to cover forwards in their own end.
Oh well, 1 step forward with Hemmer signed, 1.5 steps back with Gibby for Schultz.
Yeah...I get that. I just am not as sold on Gilbert as one of the offensive dmen moving forward. He has been very inconsistent in terms of an all round game and I think the Oilers sold high in this case. Gilbert is a bit of an enigma and I will not miss his inconsistency especially in the d zone.
Horseradish: I think Gibby may have requested to go home. He wasn't on this short roadie, right? He must've either asked out, or explicitly asked to go home, and Tamby told him that he'd get it done.
I very much doubt it. From all appearances, Gilbert seemed to enjoy the Oiler lockeroom and the chemistry a lot. It's been a long time since he was in minnesota. I think it's merely coincidence since Minnesota needed a puck moving dman to replace the loss of Zidlicky.
Gator is not at all the same type of defenseman as Schultz. I don't know how much people have followed him throughout the last decade in Minny, but he's not all that physical, and nowhere near as nasty as Smith was. We're not getting that type of player here at all.
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