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[EDM/MIN] Tom Gilbert Traded For Nick Schultz

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02-27-2012, 12:52 PM
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Koto: Schultz is -10, almost the worst on his team.

Oh good lord. +/- means nothing in terms of defensive aspects. Plus minus only shows OUTScoring at even strength, so if Schultz isn't a big scorer and only a defender at even strength, he will most likely get outscored.

Considering he was tops in EV and PK for Minnesota and his reputation as a defensive defenseman - I think he is minimum top 4 dman, with a possible top pairing shutdown capability.

Stauffer suggested the possibility last week when he noticed that Whitney, Petry and Gilbert all were similar types of dmen (college puck movers) and that Gilbert may be the one going out.

I think this trade addresses a need - which is the Oilers have a lack of strong defensive options. Teubert and Plante are still too far away and may lack the upside of being a top 4 defensive dman.

Same age, same contract expiry, similar dollars. So financially it's a wash. Defensive dmen are not usually paid as much as offensive dmen - so that may mean that Schultz may play a bigger role than Gilbert.

I'm of the same opinion as Cerebral, I actually don't mind this trade. It could be very good for both Minnesota and Edmonton as it addresses needs for both teams.


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I can't stand Duthie. "We're showing one of your rare goals right there". Schultz responded with what sounded like a sarcastic laugh.

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He should, Minnesota to Winnepeg should be like an hour long flight.

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The oilers didn't really want 3 college dmen and American

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We got "Gator" back......

Face it, our D-Core needed this, let alone our team as a whole.

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02-27-2012, 12:55 PM
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I just thought of the best way to describe this.

The Oilers just traded for the Ryan Smyth of Defensemen.

This is a true leader here, and don't forget all these young kids coming up.

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I don't get this at all.. Did Tambi go after the wrong Schultz? Maybe he got mixed up with Justin?

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This team has been too easy to play against...players like Schultz help to change that equation.

The Oilers need more players like this not less.

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Kind of neat that we add another Western Canadian though.

Smyth
Hall
RNH
Eberle
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Dubynk
Horcoff

Maybe we add a Murray/Dumba to that group this year.

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http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/playe..._C.YUx7lLCfgM6

Schultz racked up most his minuses when Minni went on that Dec-Jan run of supreme run of suckage and injuries.

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Gilbert has been little short of ironman here. I don't follow the comments about durability being a factor in this trade.

Also, oh noes, Schultz just phoned his wife..

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I see a referense to Gator...
I think Steve Staois is more accurate as Shultz is only an average sized defenseman (with an above average sized heart).

I think we NEED a player like Schultz...although I think the cost is too steep.

He get's paid too much, he cost too much in the way of assets, but I will welcome him with open arms!

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Guymez;

I don't disagree. Problem is that they also need guys like Gilbert.

They don't need the excess up front or the pointless guys like Potter or handing the keys over to unprovens like Petry.

It's like one of the other posters said - it's not the player coming in that is bothersome, it's losing theplayer going out that is bothersome.

I am looking for the team to improve with these moves, I'm not sure it has. It's just changed a little because of it.

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02-27-2012, 01:01 PM
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Comparing Schultz to Smid

They both sound like similar players - defensive dmen with a penchant for shot blocking and very little scoring. Is one noticeably better than the other?

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I think most people here can agree that Schultz is the type of player the Oilers need, just not at the expense of one of our best defensemen. At best it makes it a lateral move, unless Petry takes another step forward next season.

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I think Gibby may have requested to go home. He wasn't on this short roadie, right? He must've either asked out, or explicitly asked to go home, and Tamby told him that he'd get it done.

I like Schultz. I really like him, actually. I just don't think he's as good as Gilbert, all around. Gilbert's maybe a small step behind him in defensive coverage, but he's 2 steps ahead of him in offensive and puck-moving ability.

As I see it, Edmonton struggles the most with moving the puck up the ice and that's why they get hemmed in and scored on. It's not because, not in their top-4 right now anyway, they are unable to cover forwards in their own end.

Oh well, 1 step forward with Hemmer signed, 1.5 steps back with Gibby for Schultz.

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02-27-2012, 01:06 PM
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Yeah...I get that. I just am not as sold on Gilbert as one of the offensive dmen moving forward. He has been very inconsistent in terms of an all round game and I think the Oilers sold high in this case. Gilbert is a bit of an enigma and I will not miss his inconsistency especially in the d zone.

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02-27-2012, 01:08 PM
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Oilers win this deal. Schultz plays vs the top players on other team. Great shot blocker too.

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There are intangibles that are covered with this deal. Leadership and durability are necessary ingredients moving forward.

The team gets better with this deal.
What's this "durability" garbage? This is the first season Gilbert has missed any real time with injuries. He's not Whitney here.

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Horseradish: I think Gibby may have requested to go home. He wasn't on this short roadie, right? He must've either asked out, or explicitly asked to go home, and Tamby told him that he'd get it done.

I very much doubt it. From all appearances, Gilbert seemed to enjoy the Oiler lockeroom and the chemistry a lot. It's been a long time since he was in minnesota. I think it's merely coincidence since Minnesota needed a puck moving dman to replace the loss of Zidlicky.

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Reading the reaction from the Minny players is enough for me PERIOD.

We need someone like this, a boring, stay at home/shut down d-man who is well respected and admired in the locker room.....no stats for that. He will also help our goalies play better.

Gilbert turns over the puck too much and when the s#!t hits the fan, Gilbert plays worse. I wish Gilbert the best but lets watch a few games and then judge.

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He will also help our goalies play better.
Or good goalies make him look better.

We'll see.

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true enough

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Gator is not at all the same type of defenseman as Schultz. I don't know how much people have followed him throughout the last decade in Minny, but he's not all that physical, and nowhere near as nasty as Smith was. We're not getting that type of player here at all.

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