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[EDM/MIN] Tom Gilbert Traded For Nick Schultz

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02-27-2012, 01:55 PM
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:/ hm.

Still don't know how i feel about this. seems like a lateral move, with potential for chemistry to NOT work.

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02-27-2012, 01:59 PM
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@ Bugg 120 blocked shots less quality shots hitting the net Smid on 1 paring Schultz on the other 2 guys in the top 20 in bs is not a bad thing at all when trying to prevent goals

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02-27-2012, 02:00 PM
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The age thing is ridiculous. Yes Gilbert is younger....by 6 whole months. Good grief.

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02-27-2012, 02:01 PM
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I has pissed at first, but have warmed up to it after a while. Our D is awful in the d-zone, might as well mix it up.

IMO Gilbert>Schultz. Tambo should have got a pick out of it.

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02-27-2012, 02:02 PM
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:/ hm.

Still don't know how i feel about this. seems like a lateral move, with potential for chemistry to NOT work.
Oddly enough, that was always one of my quibbles with Gilbert. He just never seemed to mesh with anyone for long periods. At first he looked great with Whitney, then that pairing became sub-par... then he was paired with Smid, and it didn't work the first time... then he was paired with Sutton, and that was a poor fit. Smid-Gilbert had started to find some consistency as the team's best pairing, but whatever it was, Tom never functioned well unless the puck was on his side of the ice.

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02-27-2012, 02:05 PM
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I just remember the first year post Pronger, we had NO outlet pass. It had a drastic impact on the lack of effectiveness of our forwards.

Gilbert and Whitney were really the only solid Outlet passers on our D corp, and well now it looks kinda weak back there like it was in 06-07.

:/

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02-27-2012, 02:11 PM
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schultz+smid makes our PK even better than it already is, Petry can play 2nd minutes on the PP. good trade for the oilers going forward

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02-27-2012, 02:12 PM
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Gibby goes home to finish a career possibly. Definitely will miss em, I know Hallsy will.

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02-27-2012, 02:14 PM
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We've been saying for the last few years that this team needed to be harder to play against. This accompolishes that, IMO
For me this is what the trade was about

Gilbert was easy to play against

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02-27-2012, 02:14 PM
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Maybe I'm just optimistic, but I hope this signals some actual forethought by Tambellini. Maybe he knows the top upcoming UFA defensemen are all offensive-minded, so he trades for a defensive guy first in preparation for making an offer to one of those UFAs this summer.

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02-27-2012, 02:17 PM
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^^ Petry is a good passer

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02-27-2012, 02:18 PM
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After thinking on it, I'm ok with this trade.

Nick Shultz so far this season has played the most ES and PK minutes on the 9th best defensive team(if we go by how many goals have been given up).

While I appreciate Minny has better goaltending, this isn't a Pekka Rinne or Henrik Lundqvist we're talking about here. Defensive system or not, you have to be able to play D and match up against other teams top lines for them to play Shultz the amount they did. At the very worst, he's a 2nd pairing LHD shutdown D-man we've needed and wanted. Remember, these types of D-man have been getting ~$4M/yr on the free agent market, and knowing Edmonton's luck with FA, we would have ended up paying more.

Not only that, but Petry seems to have taken over Gilbert's defensive responsibilities at ES and will do the same at SH I imagine.

This deal also gives us more flexibility I feel. Gilbert wasn't a real standout in either offensive or defensive duties. He wasn't good enough defensively that you could pair him with say a Dennis Widemen, nor was he good offensively that you could grab just a stay-at-home D-man to pair him with. This way, our top-2 LHD are shut-down guys, and if we want to (And I hope we do), we have the ability to add some offense from our backend. Something that is very much lacking on this franchise.

Nick Shultz is not a Jason Smith or a Chris Phillips or an Anton Volchenkov. His game is more suited around good positioning than anything else. I'm not sure if he's a top-pairing shutdown guy, but I do know that he is good defensively, and doesn't have many if any holes on the defensive side of things. This team got better defensively because of this deal, but got worse in the puck moving department. If the leadership stuff is true, I think we also got better in that area, even though Gilbert wasn't terrible.

As blasphemous as this sound, I think Tambo did well here. We've been needing a Nick Shultz for a while, and to get one who played a big role on his team in the middle of the season gets props from me. Why did they give him up? No clue, but we didn't get him cheaply at all.

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02-27-2012, 02:19 PM
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About the only good thing I have to say about this trade is that it frees up an extra 500K to add to the offer we now need to put forth to Suter in July.

I am find with adding a guy like Schultz, but it shouldn't have cost us Gilbert.

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02-27-2012, 02:19 PM
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If Tambellini signs Widemen this move will be looked upon well with hindsight.

I would have preferred to have acquired Widemen or Carle through free agency before trading Gilbert. The backup plan is to play Potter, or trade picks/prospects (because they aren't in a position to trade roster players). Doesn't seem like Tambellini hedged his bets very well.

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02-27-2012, 02:20 PM
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Not sure why everyone was so upset. 3-4 Two way guy for a 3-4 Stay at home. Pretty good old fashioned fair hockey trade.

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02-27-2012, 02:23 PM
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This also could be an indication EDM will be looking to draft a more offensive defenseman this up coming draft (i.e. Dumba).

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02-27-2012, 02:29 PM
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I will hold my judgments for now. The only thing I can think of for this trade is that Schultz is a better Teacher/Role model for D-kids. Time will tell...Prediction for GDT is a lot of whining from some of the "yoo-yoo fans".

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02-27-2012, 02:34 PM
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Reminds me a lot of the Lubo for Whitney trade last year. Hopefully it works out, we did need a solid defensive D. I just wish it didn't cost us Gibby

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02-27-2012, 02:35 PM
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schultz is a clone of Hannan in his prime with the sharks, back when players used to call him velcro because he stuck the offensive guys like well....velcro

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02-27-2012, 02:36 PM
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So when you swap Schultz's offense in for Gilbert's anyone know where the Oilers rank for points out of their blueline in the league?

Got to be near the bottom if not dead last.

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02-27-2012, 02:41 PM
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This also could be an indication EDM will be looking to draft a more offensive defenseman this up coming draft (i.e. Dumba).
I had the exact same thought, but not Dumba, they have decided on Murray. That is my guess on the record.

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02-27-2012, 02:48 PM
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this thread will heat up as we get a couple good looks at Schultz. From the sounds of it, they play similar styles, but Laddy a bit meaner and grittier. Both guys seem like a good parter for offensive minded guys like Whitney Barker and Petry.

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02-27-2012, 02:49 PM
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Minnesota wins this, but it is not an awful trade. I just think Gilbert will do more for the Wild than Nick will for the Oilers.

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02-27-2012, 02:54 PM
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This team has had a horrid defense for some time, and moves like this are the reason.

"Puck moving defenseman" has now just shot to the top of the "needs" list.

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Is Schultz in the line up for you guys tonight?

Clitsome definitely won't be for the Jets.

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