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02-27-2012, 06:14 PM
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Off-Season big winger targets?

I was reading in the GBU of the deadline that a lot of us are on the same page that the forwards need to get tougher, and that size and toughness are a priority this summer.

That being said, who do we target?

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02-27-2012, 06:25 PM
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I'd say we have to wait and see what happens with draft position slot and playoffs with some teams. The candidates at this point won't be the same when summer comes.

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This would be funnier if he were actually a winger.

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Alot depend on the playoffs. If LA misses of fizzles in the 1st round, Dustin Brown might be available. Consider that Lombardi has 0 picks in the 1st 2 rounds and we have 4, there is potential for a deal there. And honestly, why not Nash? We have the assets now. I know we're probably not on his list, but I think you sit him down with Terry Pegula for 20 minutes, he'd be on board.

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Alot depend on the playoffs. If LA misses of fizzles in the 1st round, Dustin Brown might be available. Consider that Lombardi has 0 picks in the 1st 2 rounds and we have 4, there is potential for a deal there. And honestly, why not Nash? We have the assets now. I know we're probably not on his list, but I think you sit him down with Terry Pegula for 20 minutes, he'd be on board.
Brown - yes.

Screw Nash.

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It's hard to say until we get past the draft. Lots of things the Sabres can do with those new picks.

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Screw Nash.
I like Nash, but not at his cap hit.

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Brown - yes.

Screw Nash.
Agreed. Nash would cost too much.

Brown would be the perfect target. Not "big" but he's a truck in that he hits.

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If LA misses of fizzles in the 1st round, Dustin Brown might be available. Consider that Lombardi has 0 picks in the 1st 2 rounds and we have 4, there is potential for a deal there.
Even if they don't fizzle, I still think Brown will be available - especially in the offseason where the notoriety of being dealt and losing the captaincy won't be as prominent as in-season. The Kings are clearly building around Richards as their next leader / captain. Keeping Brown as the de-facto captain, when Richards is already a vocal force known for exerting himself, would incite the same kind of struggles as what happened with Pronger and Richards in Philly.

And switching the "C" from Brown to Richards would be an embarrassing demotion of sorts for Brown, who likely wouldn't be as happy to relinquish the leadership as Marleau was when they stripped him of the "C".

I truly hope Regier continues to stay in contact with Lombardi and make sure the Kings give the Sabres a call as soon as they decide to deal Brown for certain. Lombardi probably figured, with the Kings on the cusp of qualifying for the playoffs, that dealing his captain now would send the wrong signal and ripple through the locker room in a negative way amidst the playoff pressure.

Summer's a different situation.

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Id take either of them at this point. Especially if the price is right. Also if we finish strong with what we have here I can see us making a good argument to catch Nash's attention. Also, I wouldn't mind parise.

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In addition to his heinous contract, Nash is establishing himself as the second coming of Dany Heatley. Do not want.

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Parise >>> Nash

If the Sabres can find the cap room by hook or by crook, and Parise will even bother giving them to time of day, the Sabres must land this guy.

The thing is, probably the only way we land Parise is by making the playoffs and getting at least to the second round (probably third). That's the only way Buffalo sheds its reputation of criminal underachievement enough to be in the conversation.

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In addition to his heinous contract, Nash is establishing himself as the second coming of Dany Heatley. Do not want.
Uhhh, No. There are big differences. Heatley twice requested out of his teams (though, one was pretty legit) when he didn't like the ice time he was getting. Nash committed to Columbus on a long term deal after spending his entire career being the only good player on a bad team. After he realized this season that it could be 3-4 more years before Columbus is even a playoff team, he requested a trade. And instead of shooting down deals after they happened, he provided the management with a list of places they'd be willing to go. His agent got a little vocal in the media, but Nash never once came out and said anything disparaging about Columbus in his entire time there. Nash can carry a team on his back. Take a #1 center away from Heatley and his production slips. Yeah he's overpaid by maybe a million or so. He's still a great winger, and being rejuvenated on a better team will likely get him going.

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Parise >>> Nash

If the Sabres can find the cap room by hook or by crook, and Parise will even bother giving them to time of day, the Sabres must land this guy.

The thing is, probably the only way we land Parise is by making the playoffs and getting at least to the second round (probably third). That's the only way Buffalo sheds its reputation of criminal underachievement enough to be in the conversation.
Heavily front loaded contracts also seem to work.

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Would rather have Parise then Nash. Would rather have Vanek then Nash.


That being said... i think the point of the thread was big winger...which i assume means Physical winger?...

That said.. I hope they pry Brown out of LA.

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ufa's
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jarret stoll
paul gaustad
brandon prust
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plenty of size/toughness can be added through free agency

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ufa's
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jarret stoll
paul gaustad
brandon prust
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daniel carcillo

plenty of size/toughness can be added through free agency
Looking at this list helps ease the (minor) pain of losing Goose. He's definitely replaceable.

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Looking at this list helps ease the (minor) pain of losing Goose. He's definitely replaceable.
His skill with faceoffs would be harder to replace, but that's why we got a 1st for him.

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paul gaustad
brandon prust
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daniel carcillo

plenty of size/toughness can be added through free agency
None of these guys can step into a top 6 role, however, save Doan (but he's getting way up there in age), which is what Kassian brought to the table.

I like Hodgson but it feels like Regier robbed Peter to pay Paul today.

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None of these guys can step into a top 6 role, however, save Doan (but he's getting way up there in age), which is what Kassian brought to the table.

I like Hodgson but it feels like Regier robbed Peter to pay Paul today.
Peter can manage for 20 or so games.

This coming from a guy (me) that thinks it's essential to have toughness up and down the roster. It will be addressed in the offseason ..im fairly confident in that.

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None of these guys can step into a top 6 role, however, save Doan (but he's getting way up there in age), which is what Kassian brought to the table.

I like Hodgson but it feels like Regier robbed Peter to pay Paul today.
Does Foligno project to have top 6 upside, or is he better suited to being a banger?

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There are a lot of tough guys available, particularly to fill bottom 6 roles. My no. 1 target would be Brandon Prust (if the Rags let him get to July 1). He's been fantastic this year in a fourth-line center role and a brilliant penalty killer. Konopka's another guy who could replace Goose for 1/3 the cost and take key faceoffs.

As far as grit in the top 6...that's tougher. I think the Sabres would need to package a current top-six forward (let's say Stafford for argument's sake) and some of those nice, new picks for a tough vet in need of a change in scenery. Perhaps a guy like Brown, if he becomes available.

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Does Foligno project to have top 6 upside, or is he better suited to being a banger?
I wouldn't call him a banger, per se, nor do I think the answer in the top six. I think he's going to be one of those guys who's the ultimate third-liner and one of the best role players in the league: gritty, hardworking, hard-nosed, tough when necessary, a good forechecker, somewhat talented, with wonderful character.

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Does Foligno project to have top 6 upside, or is he better suited to being a banger?
Regier said in today's presser he feels Foligno can do everything Kassian can. Thats why that felt they could move Kassian.

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