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Post-Deadline Poll: How'd Fletch Do?

View Poll Results: What is your outlook on Fletcher's performance
5: Expectations satisfied 31 33.70%
4: Positive, but some reservations 49 53.26%
3: Neutral/undecided 8 8.70%
2: Somewhat negative 3 3.26%
1: Lining up on the firing squad 1 1.09%
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02-27-2012, 05:34 PM
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I trust Fletcher's drafting more than I trust his trades.
As do I, as does he probably, but not getting a mid-round pick isn't a big deal.

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As do I, as does he probably, but not getting a mid-round pick isn't a big deal.
It is when a) it's a deep draft and b) you're drafting better than your trading.

Kobasew + 2nd
Leddy and Johnsson for Barker
Staubitz for a 5th
Powe for a 3rd (decent at least)

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02-27-2012, 05:37 PM
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Don't forget:
Latendresse for Pouliot (great)

Also, when did this become a deep draft? Everything I've heard is that it's going to be much weaker than they were originally expecting.

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02-27-2012, 05:40 PM
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It is when a) it's a deep draft and b) you're drafting better than your trading.

Kobasew + 2nd
Leddy and Johnsson for Barker
Staubitz for a 5th
Powe for a 3rd (decent at least)
Ok, the only real tragic one is the Leddy trade. And don't sit there and tell me you knew Leddy was going to be this good. Meanwhile, Barker had proven something at the NHL level, and if he would have returned to that form, we wouldn't be complaining.

Hindsight is always 20/20, isn't it? You have to take on some risk in order to reap a reward.

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It is when a) it's a deep draft and b) you're drafting better than your trading.

Kobasew + 2nd
Leddy and Johnsson for Barker
Staubitz for a 5th
Powe for a 3rd (decent at least)
Brodziak
Sheppard for a 3rd
Lats
Zidlicky

I've heard conflicting report on the depth of this draft, and to talk about depth when you're talking about 4th and 5th round picks is asinine.

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02-27-2012, 05:42 PM
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I thought all the trades fletcher made was great. The zanon kampfer trade didnt really matter much but the zidlicky deal I thought was great where zidlicky and foster in my mind are pretty much a wash and the rest are a bonus where palmeiri might stick and then getting the 2nd was awesome. Gilbert and Schultz was good as well shultz got 3 points all year with his only goal coming last night and Glibert poor defensive numbers i think can be partially due to playing on Edmonton for the last 6 years.

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Ok, the only real tragic one is the Leddy trade. And don't sit there and tell me you knew Leddy was going to be this good. Meanwhile, Barker had proven something at the NHL level, and if he would have returned to that form, we wouldn't be complaining.

Hindsight is always 20/20, isn't it? You have to take on some risk in order to reap a reward.
Leddy tragic? A -14 on the CBH equates to about a -25 on the Wild. Spurgeon has as many goals as Leddy. Both are about at the same point in their careers. No power play or game winning goals this year for Leddy. Quennville needs to pull a Yeo, and send Leddy back down to Rockford for a year or so.

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Leddy tragic? A -14 on the CBH equates to about a -25 on the Wild. Spurgeon has as many goals as Leddy. Both are about at the same point in their careers. No power play or game winning goals this year for Leddy. Quennville needs to pull a Yeo, and send Leddy back down to Rockford for a year or so.
Tragic for the Gophers. I was looking forward to at least 3 years of Leddy in maroon and gold. That was my biggest issue with the trade.

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Tragic for the Gophers. I was looking forward to at least 3 years of Leddy in maroon and gold. That was my biggest issue with the trade.
Seem to be doing okay without him. There is a reason the CBH were looking for defensive help at the trade deadline, and the reason goes by Nick Leddy.

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Leddy tragic? A -14 on the CBH equates to about a -25 on the Wild. Spurgeon has as many goals as Leddy. Both are about at the same point in their careers. No power play or game winning goals this year for Leddy. Quennville needs to pull a Yeo, and send Leddy back down to Rockford for a year or so.
You're going to argue that Leddy is a great talent? If he was on our team right now, you could make an case for him being our best defenseman. Just because they may be at the same point now, doesn't mean Leddy isn't going to be much better later in their careers.

And yes, it would be considered tragic, because Leddy is already miles ahead of Barker.

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I like what fletch did, we got some decent assets moving forward, i wouldnt be aurprised if gilbert ends up being good for us.

We got better the last few days amd all our prospects are here still

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Was thinking 2 or 3 and went with 2. After Zidlicky I would have said 5. But the Schultz deal and the type of return for Zanon more than equal that out. I'm more displeased with those deals than pleased with the Zidlicky deal. If Harding walks this summer the 2 will definitely be worthy.

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Gilbert is going to become the new scapegoat.

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Going to agree with the majority that I'm positive on the moves but have some reservations on a couple fronts. Wrote out my thoughts and analysis on FRB so if anyone wants to read those here's Schultz/Gilbert and Zanon/Kampfer. If most people don't, then that's okay too and y'all got saved a TL;DR response.

One thought that I don't know if anyone has brought up: It's not a good sign that all three of the veteran defenseman (four if you include Lundin) could not adapt to Yeo's system.

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Every team needs one.

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Don't say hindsight. I was critical on all those trades. Yes a guy like freddie mitchell is worse than staubitz. And kobasew has done so much for this organization. Fletcher should stick to what he does best and that's drafting

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So a question to those on the negative side:

What should GMCF have done, to put on the positive side? What is your critique?

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Going to agree with the majority that I'm positive on the moves but have some reservations on a couple fronts. Wrote out my thoughts and analysis on FRB so if anyone wants to read those here's Schultz/Gilbert and Zanon/Kampfer. If most people don't, then that's okay too and y'all got saved a TL;DR response.

One thought that I don't know if anyone has brought up: It's not a good sign that all three of the veteran defenseman (four if you include Lundin) could not adapt to Yeo's system.


No, he's "one of us." That gives him some leeway.
That hasn't exactly saved Cullen this year.

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I thought we did fine with the trades today. Not great, but the Zids deal is still a plus for me. I was hoping for a pick for Zanon though. (to use as a trade piece for the draft) Kampfer seems fine, should be a good AHLer at the minimum. I wasn't against trading Schultz but Gilbert doesn't do much for me. Just have to wait and see with these two guys.

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So a question to those on the negative side:

What should GMCF have done, to put on the positive side? What is your critique?
Found a team crazy enough to take Backstrom.

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Found a team crazy enough to take Backstrom.
But Burke said he wasn't shopping for a goalie!

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So a question to those on the negative side:

What should GMCF have done, to put on the positive side? What is your critique?
Kept Schultz and moved him in the offseason if need be. Take the second for harding. Dump zanon for a pick. Possible dangle cullen or cluts. Pick up clitsome

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Kept Schultz and moved him in the offseason if need be. Take the second for harding. Dump zanon for a pick. Possible dangle cullen or cluts. Pick up clitsome
All valid, I suppose, but it's hard to dangle somebody with a NTC.

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