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02-29-2012, 02:27 PM
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and so begins the Seth Jones/ Nathan Mackinnon debate ala Hedman/Tavares

depends on what you need, but Seth Jones could likely be the next real deal version of Chris Pronger..

and Mackinnon could be the next Sid Crosby type player....

envious of who is drafting top 5 for this draft.
MacKinnon is nothing like Crosby, more likely to be a Taylor Hall type player.

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02-29-2012, 02:35 PM
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MacKinnon is nothing like Crosby, more likely to be a Taylor Hall type player.
Pretty good comparison. I liken his skating to Kovalchuk, but I can't say for sure I'm confident he'll have his shot.

Bottom line, not like Crosby...at all.

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02-29-2012, 02:39 PM
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They don't? Since when is he a generational talent?
don't have to be a generational talent to be the type of player who doesn't come around every year

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02-29-2012, 03:42 PM
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IMO Monahan has been more physical this year than Erne. To me Erne reminds me of a tougher verison of Jakub Voracek. But I do agree that he has some awesome stick-handling, though IMO Duclair is better.
O is a more physical league and Erne is LW converted from center and they want him to move the puck more than carry the play but I feel as if we're kind of splitting hairs on the player. Monahan is a brilliant player with a lot of uspide. Erne I just believe is being underestimated. I expect Erne to move up and I would not be surprised if Monahan does as well. You may not expect Erne to move up and that's fair. My question is if you could see him doing so...?


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02-29-2012, 03:54 PM
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and so begins the Seth Jones/ Nathan Mackinnon debate ala Hedman/Tavares

depends on what you need, but Seth Jones could likely be the next real deal version of Chris Pronger..

and Mackinnon could be the next Sid Crosby type player....

envious of who is drafting top 5 for this draft.
I don't mean to pile on but Seth Jones is nothing like Chris Pronger either. I'm not sure where Jones fits in. Leetch, maybe. Rob Blake, possibly, if he fills out but he does need to fill out that frame and play with the extra weight. He also needs to develop a strong 3rd period. Jones, at this point, does not play anywhere near Pronger type minutes.

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02-29-2012, 04:19 PM
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Ekblad could fall...

Reinhart, Ho-Sang, and Koy are the best in this draft so far... I'm surprised DeAngelo isn't there.
Not sure why you would say that. He's having an incredible season for a 15-year-old defensemen. He's in uncharted waters as far as defense prospects go. The sky's the limit and he's got to be the front runner for top spot in 2014 at this point (which is very far away).

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02-29-2012, 04:46 PM
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Pretty good comparison. I liken his skating to Kovalchuk, but I can't say for sure I'm confident he'll have his shot.

Bottom line, not like Crosby...at all.
From what I've seen from him, he controls the puck incredibly well. Kind of like Hossa (in terms of that skill).

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02-29-2012, 05:18 PM
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Curtis lazar won't be in the top ten next year?

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Curtis lazar won't be in the top ten next year?
I could see it not happening. That says something about how strong the class is.

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Pretty good comparison. I liken his skating to Kovalchuk, but I can't say for sure I'm confident he'll have his shot.

Bottom line, not like Crosby...at all.
Agreed. Until anyone can score 2 ppg in junior like crosby did, nobody can claim to be the next Crosby

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02-29-2012, 05:56 PM
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I'm surprised Ryan Pulock isn't in the mix there, how far off is he and Eric Roy for the 2013 draft? It looks like it's going to be a very strong draft.

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02-29-2012, 05:58 PM
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Agreed. Until anyone can score 2 ppg in junior like crosby did, nobody can claim to be the next Crosby
That's besides the pt that he doesn't play a similar game. He spends his energy in the o-zone (or getting there) and it kills him coming back. He's not bad defensively when he's in position, but he sacrifices that a lot for being a dynamo elsewhere. I can only assume he'll remedy this with experience though. He's got ALL of the tools to become a whatever it is they call great players here. So long as he applies himself. Been incredibly impressed with him.

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From what I've seen from him, he controls the puck incredibly well. Kind of like Hossa (in terms of that skill).
Maybe on that side of the coin, but overall he's a lightning fash breakout man with the hands and shot to create offense off the rush, but he's going to (he's only JUST turned 16) fill out into someone who'll be able to battle and with his skating he'll be HELL to defend against on the cycle.

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That's besides the pt that he doesn't play a similar game. He spends his energy in the o-zone (or getting there) and it kills him coming back. He's not bad defensively when he's in position, but he sacrifices that a lot for being a dynamo elsewhere. I can only assume he'll remedy this with experience though. He's got ALL of the tools to become a whatever it is they call great players here. So long as he applies himself. Been incredibly impressed with him.



Maybe on that side of the coin, but overall he's a lightning fash breakout man with the hands and shot to create offense off the rush, but he's going to (he's only JUST turned 16) fill out into someone who'll be able to battle and with his skating he'll be HELL to defend against on the cycle.
I've had someone else mention in another thread that he needs to learn to "shift gears" with his skating. Basically, like you said, he's in 5th gear constantly, which I can see myself.

He backchecks incredibly well, maybe another one of the Hossa comparisons, and overall can be an elite player in the NHL. Maybe not Crosby, but what I've seen has showed me that it's no stretch that he can be one of the NHL's top players with some improvements in some areas, including the aforementioned one.

MacKinnon-Toews-Kane
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02-29-2012, 06:31 PM
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A much more likely scenario will be Yakupov - Johansen - MacKinnon lol

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Maybe some team will tank to get a 1-2 punch at centre with the "next malkin" and the "next crosby" in grigorenko and mackinnon

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A much more likely scenario will be Yakupov - Johansen - MacKinnon lol
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A much more likely scenario will be Yakupov - Johansen - MacKinnon lol
Then I will be protesting the NHL for contraction!!!

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I'm surprised Ryan Pulock isn't in the mix there, how far off is he and Eric Roy for the 2013 draft? It looks like it's going to be a very strong draft.
Ya much agreed, many scouts have touted him in the top 10. He's going to crack 60 pts this year as a 17 d man, 6'1 200lbs with a 93 mile an hour slap shot! Not to mention being in the +30 range!!

Can't wait to see this draft!!

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Ya much agreed, many scouts have touted him in the top 10. He's going to crack 60 pts this year as a 17 d man, 6'1 200lbs with a 93 mile an hour slap shot! Not to mention being in the +30 range!!

Can't wait to see this draft!!
Me too! It sha'll make up for the weak draft this year!

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02-29-2012, 09:19 PM
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O is a more physical league and Erne is LW converted from center and they want him to move the puck more than carry the play but I feel as if we're kind of splitting hairs on the player. Monahan is a brilliant player with a lot of uspide. Erne I just believe is being underestimated. I expect Erne to move up and I would not be surprised if Monahan does as well. You may not expect Erne to move up and that's fair. My question is if you could see him doing so...?
Actually yes! Definitely has the potential to move up, considering that Monahan has one more season of experience over Erne. I don't see him going in the top 3, but spots 5th-10th is very possible. One thing I would love to see him improve is to use his teammates betters.

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DeAngelo put up a -6 tonight, yikes. I don't think he's near Ekblad.

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Anthony DeAngelo is going to be a star for the 2014 draft.

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Ekblad > DeAngelo (slightly)

However, neither are to be scoffed at and this could change easily over the course of 2 years. Just my current opinion.

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I don't mean to pile on but Seth Jones is nothing like Chris Pronger either. I'm not sure where Jones fits in. Leetch, maybe. Rob Blake, possibly, if he fills out but he does need to fill out that frame and play with the extra weight. He also needs to develop a strong 3rd period. Jones, at this point, does not play anywhere near Pronger type minutes.
not saying Jones will play like Pronger, or MacKinnon will play like Crosby. just saying that could be the type of impact they could have in the league. Jones can be a Pronger type player with a moster ceiling, and Mackinnon could be that type of player that could be considered world class.

not comparing playing styles at all, just saying both of these kids could have very huge impacts in the league.

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