I have little faith in him as well. His only asset is his size, but he has a weak glove, weak blocker, slow lateral movement, can't play the puck and loses concentration frequently.
He's solid, but I think he's missing that next gear that eliminates the majority of bad goals and the ability to steal a game ever now and then. He doesn't seem to have it. He's probably somewhere between 20th and 40th overall. A solid back up, but not a championship caliber goalie, but let's face it, there aren't too many of those around. I'm hoping Bunz is our best shot.
Circumstance is HUGE for goalies. Literally make or break in their careers. Thomas could've easily been picked up by a team like Tampa Bay that lacks solid defense. Look at Mike Smith, who's standing on his head with the Coyotes but was a joke with the Lightning.
Who knows how good Thomas would've ever been if he didn't find a spot with the Bruins, and gradually work his way up to being one of the best goalies in the NHL.
When the team is ready to compete Dubnyk will either rise or fall with the type of team we have. He isn't good enough to ensure confidence that he is a sure fire #1 but he could easily be a Niemi and take a team far.
The Oilers should just be patient. Keep him. Sign him for a few years when his contract is up. He won't demand the moon and we know he is pretty good. The Oilers seem to be a team that will be generally hard to be a goalie with unless with find another Pronger. Patience is the key, and we do not have to worry about him yet, although beginning this summer the Oilers will for sure be on the lookout for another great goalie. After khabby is gone a 1a 1b type scenario would be most desirable.
Halak has let in just as many bad goals as Dubnyk. Guess he will never be a #1 either.
Good point
Because the goal Nuge scored was just awful.
Look it's the same movie. The Oilers are down 1 or it's tied and a guy like Scott Nichol scores a goal like that, and it couldn't be a bigger let down.
The reality with Dubby is he lacks consistency, and the tenacity to have that consistency.
He may make a good back up, but he's not going to be your team's #1.
Look it's the same movie. The Oilers are down 1 or it's tied and a guy like Scott Nichol scores a goal like that, and it couldn't be a bigger let down.
The reality with Dubby is he lacks consistency, and the tenacity to have that consistency.
He may make a good back up, but he's not going to be your team's #1.
Both have let in one bad goal. Dubnyks 2nd one and Halaks 1st.
Halak had as much of a chance to stop Nuges goal as Dubnyk did the 3rd blues goal. Very little.
Both have let in one bad goal. Dubnyks 2nd one and Halaks 1st.
Halak had as much of a chance to stop Nuges goal as Dubnyk did the 3rd blues goal. Very little.
So you simply just don't see what I'm saying then. The situation and what not that's fine, but what's not fine his Dubnyk as the Oilers' #1 goaltender going forward.
I can see him as our guy. He is letting in a few stinkers, but he's still developing at the NHL level. Third year in, and he's had the misfortune of plying his trade behind the worst defense we've seen. With a capable defensive d-man on every pairing now, his numbers should improve incredibly.
His technique has gotten a lot stronger this year. Namely his movement to the right and covering the top half of the net. The team supports him, and he'll be an inexpensive part of the nucleus going forward.
We just need to rid ourselves of the Potters and Barkers - the guys who won't make forwards pay a price for messing with our goalie. Doobie's been taking a lot of contact in the past couple of weeks. Hopefully Schultz makes someone pay, and soon.
I tend to forget when looking at Doobie's numbers that we're most often playing from behind, thus the quality of shots/chances are lower than a true starter on a good team would face.
And we're playing from behind because he can't make that big save early to keep us even.
It's not all his fault, but I think his SV% is misleading.
IMHO I think its easy to like him because he is an oiler, but from watching other elite goalie's in the league he is clearly not even close to being a top-tier goalie. I would say he is a servicable backup though who can play 20 games a year. There are some teams that can get away with letting 30 shots on net and still win a 2-1 game but I haven't seen that scenario play out with dubnyk to much. Mind you bad turnovers by our defence can make the save percentage of a goalie inflated.
IMHO I think its easy to like him because he is an oiler, but from watching other elite goalie's in the league he is clearly not even close to being a top-tier goalie. I would say he is a servicable backup though who can play 20 games a year. There are some teams that can get away with letting 30 shots on net and still win a 2-1 game but I haven't seen that scenario play out with dubnyk to much. Mind you bad turnovers by our defence can make the save percentage of a goalie inflated.
IMHO He needs more quickness.
Dubnyk is the "best right now" for the Oilers when Khabbi is gone. That does not equate to being able to compete as a starting goaltender in the NHL. He should not be playing more than 20 games a year.
The battle between JDD and Dubynk was simply to see who would suck the most.
I honestly think the guy has talent. We see flashes of it in him from time to time. What I really think he is lacking is perhaps one of the most essential elements for a professional goalie, and that's confidence. You see it in the elite level talent, a belief that, yes, they can stop every shot. It seems like Dudnyk (oops sorry meant Dubnyk) seems to lose his mental edge at some times. If he has the talent, and he seems to, there is always the chance that he will assemble the other pieces to make himself both good and consistent.
I too get frustrated with seeing him let in the soft goals after making some really good stops. I hope he can snap the last few pieces into place because I'm not sure the organization can wait much longer for him. We are going to need a clear number one probably starting next year. We need a goal tender that can steal us some games, not single-highhandedly lose them for us.
