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02-28-2012, 01:28 PM
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What happens if the Flames miss the playoffs

What kind of changes will happen(if any), if the Calgary Flamees miss the playoffs. Will Iginla just leave as a free agent(which is just stupid). Will something big happen or will this ownership have no guts.

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Iggy is signed for another year. As is Kipper I believe.

If the Flames miss the playoffs, I personally hope Sutter is not re-signed to a new deal.

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Iggy gone/Kipper stays, most UFAs not retained, a bunch of new FA faces/maybe some veteran euro-league FAs.

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Regardless of what happens down the stretch, I don't want Sutter to be re-signed.

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All vestiges of anyone named Sutter should be purged and the team rebuilt with young prospects instead of plugging holes with aging veterans. Feaster definitely needs to get rid of some of those no-trade clauses.

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All vestiges of anyone named Sutter should be purged and the team rebuilt with young prospects instead of plugging holes with aging veterans. Feaster definitely needs to get rid of some of those no-trade clauses.
I'm not sure how much of the core will actually change...

I expect that both Iggy and Kipper will still be here at the beginning of next season, same with Cammy, Tanguay, Jokinen, Glencross, Gio, and Jaybo.

The only way to drastically change this team is to trade players from this list though, likely starting with Iginla. I just don't think that's what we're going to do.

I do think we'll have a new coach next year, but we've seen coaches come and go... I'm not sure that will make much of a difference.

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What kind of changes will happen(if any), if the Calgary Flamees miss the playoffs. Will Iginla just leave as a free agent(which is just stupid). Will something big happen or will this ownership have no guts.
If ...?
Iginla's not a free agent until the conclusion of the 2012-13 season.
Secondly, virtually all the other players still under contract have no trade clauses.
Feaster is stuck with a lot of the same team.

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As much as it pains me to say, the best move would be to move Jarome Iginla in the off-season for a young roster player ++.

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same old same old

Iggy Kipper Jokinen all get new long term deals with the no trade no move tossed in . current ufa's released and replaced with replica ufa's with new long term deals with no trade no move deals. Sutter fired and replaced with a younger Sutter. Prospects buried in minors picks traded for 3rd line forwards and 6th d man. King tells us this is the year . Feaster says line up is improved . Fans buy tickets and more merchandise . 8th place here we come.

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What should happen and what will happen are two entirely different things. What should happen is a massive retooling. Clean house of all leadership. The whole coaching staff is gone. I doubt Sutter would come back anyways, but this team needs to be Sutter free for the at least the next few years. Iginla should be sent packing for the best assets available, and a new era begins. The sad part is it should have taken place yesterday as that's when the most youth is available in trade. Nothing for this team changes as long as Iginla is the go-to guy and leader in the dressing room, so he has to go. Frankly, nobody under the age of 25 should be considered safe and should be offered up in trade. Make the moves, retool and hope you draft well over the text two or three seasons. Out of that will come a new franchise player and fan favorite. The team will move on.

What is actually going to happen is a completely different story. Sutter will not be back. He has too much pride to come back and take the abuse this team provides its coaches. The new guy, who ever that is, will immediately fall in love with the reputation Iginla has some how earned over the years and will say all the same things coaches have said about Iginla when they take over the club. Of course that same coach will be pulling his hair out by December 1st when he finds out Iginla doesn't believe in the team game, but that's a given. Feaster, in his infinite wisdom, will continue to try and build around the 36 year old Iginla and sacrifice youth for veteran experience. The whole management team will express platitudes about how close this team is, especially when you have Iginla and Kiprusoff, and say they earned another kick at the can with the performance down the stretch. They will say that injuries what prevented the team from making the post season and that this year will be better. It'll be the same old song and dance, because that's the song and dance this team knows and is too damned scared to try and turn the page. It'll be rinse and repeat and the team will continue to spin it's balding tires.

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What should happen and what will happen are two entirely different things. What should happen is a massive retooling. Clean house of all leadership. The whole coaching staff is gone. I doubt Sutter would come back anyways, but this team needs to be Sutter free for the at least the next few years. Iginla should be sent packing for the best assets available, and a new era begins. The sad part is it should have taken place yesterday as that's when the most youth is available in trade. Nothing for this team changes as long as Iginla is the go-to guy and leader in the dressing room, so he has to go. Frankly, nobody under the age of 25 should be considered safe and should be offered up in trade. Make the moves, retool and hope you draft well over the text two or three seasons. Out of that will come a new franchise player and fan favorite. The team will move on.

What is actually going to happen is a completely different story. Sutter will not be back. He has too much pride to come back and take the abuse this team provides its coaches. The new guy, who ever that is, will immediately fall in love with the reputation Iginla has some how earned over the years and will say all the same things coaches have said about Iginla when they take over the club. Of course that same coach will be pulling his hair out by December 1st when he finds out Iginla doesn't believe in the team game, but that's a given. Feaster, in his infinite wisdom, will continue to try and build around the 36 year old Iginla and sacrifice youth for veteran experience. The whole management team will express platitudes about how close this team is, especially when you have Iginla and Kiprusoff, and say they earned another kick at the can with the performance down the stretch. They will say that injuries what prevented the team from making the post season and that this year will be better. It'll be the same old song and dance, because that's the song and dance this team knows and is too damned scared to try and turn the page. It'll be rinse and repeat and the team will continue to spin it's balding tires.
Well said well said exactly what will happen. any one over 25 should be moved king feaster sutter etc gone . Iggy has become our Mats Sundin the captain the "face" of the franchise just happy to able to go out for a skate and go home. Unlike Mats he won't leave and sign as a free agent somewhere else He'll resign here for another 3 years . When the captain plays with no emotion the rest will follow.

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If they miss the playoffs (I believe it's still possible for them to make it) Sutter will be unemployed after the season. Hopefully, the decision of the employment status of the rest of the coaching staff will be determined by the new head coach, whoever that may be (Randy Carlyle).

I see two contract extensions being offered in the off-season: before July 1 to Jokinen, simply because there's no other plausible top six centre out there as a UFA, or that the Flames should pursue via trade. After July 1 to Jarome Iginla - ownership wants this guy on the team and in the community long term - and possibly with a hometown discount.

Moss, Stempniak, Comeau, and Sarich will not recieve offers from the team and leave as free agents. Babchuk may be asked to pursue employment in the KHL. Matt Stajan may be bought out as the buyout amount ($1.25 million) may be preferable than the $3.5 million cap hit.

I would not be surprised to see the team inquiring about the following free agents: Parise, Suter, Carle, Boyes, Penner, and/or Stoll but likely focusing on acquiring another top four defenseman.

If I could predict a "big surprise move" it would be the announcement of a trade one Sunday afternoon, that Kiprusoff is traded to Toronto for... stuff, and the Flames run with a Ramo / Irving tandem next season.

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If this core doesn't get it done then Sutter is fired Iggy/Kipper traded if they are willing to go and the rebuild begins with Sven and the other youngsters.

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What happens if the Flames miss the playoffs?

The flames will not miss the playoffs because our beloved GM Jay Feaster assures the fanbase that the magic is still there, but hidden, like an inner child, which when released, that "force" will propell the team to glory. Maybe even a first round victory, just think about it, yet I run before my horse to market. Anyway, Jay Feaster has confidence in the players, just a matter of time before they go on a 10 game winning streak.

And if the impeding magic isn't enough assurance, Feaster reminds us all of the imminent return of David Moss, that's right. David Moss is set to come back. (My toes tingle everytime I think about the return of David Moss.)

I don't know why anyone wouldnt be impressed with the infallible logic of our GM but if they still doubt, the GM admonishes us to recall his brilliant signing of a future superstar in the making, Blair Jones. Short attention span people please focus. We have a real stud in Blair Jones, the future is blight.

As Jay would say. we need to cultivate some "intellectual honesty" and see things from the prespective of a winning organization like the Flames.

Feaster would know about intellictual honesty, I heard he use to be a lawyer for pete sake. If he wasnt running the flames he would be working on wallstreet. Intellectual honesty is in their blood, they all major in murdochian philosphy, salt of the earth people you can trust.

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This team is going to hang on to Kiprusoff and Iginla likely until they retire. Nothing will change next year. We might overpay for a big free agent. We'll probably hire a new coach who is also unable to get results out of this core. Maybe make a shuffle or two here and there, nothing major.

Honestly, there isn't much to look forward to next season except maybe Sven Baertschi.

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I agree that it will be the same old same old. What should happen is Sutter should be fired and Iggy/Kipper (et al.) traded. However, I don't think ownership/management will have the balls to make any significant changes.

We'll see the same old crap again in '12/13.

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Look on the bright side...we can tank for McKinnon next year

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What are you talking about "if?" Jay Feaster GUARANTEED a playoff spot at the beginning of the year. Nothing to worry about, right?

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Feaster gave a guarantee. Don't worry about it.

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Sutter gets ****-canned. And he won't let the door hit him in the ass on the way out.

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