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Phoenix XLIV: Ignorance & Apathy (or I Doan't Know & I Doan't Care)
But I keep reading here that Bettman has never lied and has been forthright and honest throughout this entire ordeal. Surely the mayor must be lying.
You forgot to include the sarcasm & big laugh emoticons berklon... some might not understand your tongues firmly planted in your cheek & take issue with your post.
Im glad you and I understand this. Sadly there are too many who fell that Gary Bettman and the NHL are entitled to a free pass in all of this.
His handling of this file has been beyond incompetent. The bile just rises in the back of my throat in reflecting on his and the leagues actions, words & deeds over the past 2.5-3yrs, full blown fury over whats likely coming...
What do you want the NHL to do? What are they getting a free pass from?
There are getting a free pass from the majority who want to see the Coyotes relocated and those who want to keep in the in AZ and develped a self-fulfilling prophecy of "its all Glendale's fault".
As I have said before, there is plenty of blame to go around for where the Coyotes are right now but the NHL and Gary Betmann deserve to be ripped on as well since they took the keys from Moyes.
I really don't want to get into this again but Ill just say that Gary Bettman and the NHL had plenty of time and chances to kick Moyes to the curb and both failed to do so.
As far as what I want both GB and the NHL to do? I want the NHL to quit playing around, take accountability, lower the asking price to the teams real worth and get the team a local owner right now.
What do you want the NHL to do? What are they getting a free pass from?
You need some edumacatin fellow Leafs fan. Id have to go back to about 1996 and walk you through every mis-step by the hand. Just beyond absurd, incompetent, callous, intransigent, oy.... dont lets get started. Read the back issues of this Megathread. You gotta pickup every stitch yourself friendo. So call it, heads or tails?.
I hope that the Coyotes move to Seattle. It can't be worse than being in Glendale.
Wanna bet?. You like playing with tnt, firecrackers n' such, flirting with disaster & possible destitution Steve?. If so, by all means move the team to Key Arena or the Tacoma Dome. I should be able to see the Mushroom Cloud up here in Vancouver in about 5 mnths from May... give me somthin to look forward to. Sure hope its not raining.
As far as what I want both GB and the NHL to do? I want the NHL to quit playing around, take accountability, lower the asking price to the teams real worth and get the team a local owner right now.
You have to remember that Gary Bettman works for 29 other owners, and it would not surprise me one bit if those other owners have instructed Gary Bettman to NOT lower the asking price for the Coyotes. Rightfully or wrongly, those owners do not want the "perceived" value of thier clubs to negatively affected by whatever the Coyotes are sold for. Especially those clubs we don't know about that might be for sale in the near future.
There are getting a free pass from the majority who want to see the Coyotes relocated and those who want to keep in the in AZ and develped a self-fulfilling prophecy of "its all Glendale's fault".
As I have said before, there is plenty of blame to go around for where the Coyotes are right now but the NHL and Gary Betmann deserve to be ripped on as well since they took the keys from Moyes.
I really don't want to get into this again but Ill just say that Gary Bettman and the NHL had plenty of time and chances to kick Moyes to the curb and both failed to do so.
As far as what I want both GB and the NHL to do? I want the NHL to quit playing around, take accountability, lower the asking price to the teams real worth and get the team a local owner right now.
So you want the NHL to throw in 100 million to cover the losses for a couple of years, on top of giving the team away for free?
So you want the NHL to throw in 100 million to cover the losses for a couple of years, on top of giving the team away for free?
I wanted the NHL to not buy the team in the first place. When they did, I wanted them to make an effort to market the team and show potential owners it wasn't a money pit. It is a money pit and it wasn't Moyes' fault.
I wanted the NHL to not buy the team in the first place. When they did, I wanted them to make an effort to market the team and show potential owners it wasn't a money pit. It is a money pit and it wasn't Moyes' fault.
Well I think it isn't losing anymore money with the league operating it than it did with Moyes operating it. I agree it's not Moyes fault.
So you want the NHL to throw in 100 million to cover the losses for a couple of years, on top of giving the team away for free?
I wanted them to apply the 60M TNSE Relo Fee to paying down their LOC with Bank America which wouldve lowered the price from 170 to 110M a year ago, then looked at allowing the buyer to assume their LOC instread of paying all cash. Say 70M cash & 40M in assuming the LOC.
Simply transfer the 10yr AMUL over whether Glendale liked it or not, and let the buyer sort out an appropriate 5-8M per annum fair market value Arena Mgmnt Contract AND long term lease if they decide to do so. Further, the losses incurred over 3-4yrs if the team and building cant be turned around would be capped in the Consent Form & applied to the waiving of any relo fee down the road if the teams sold for relo or moved by the owners themselves.
The NHL would also be required to award Phoenix an ASG & Draft over the first 3yrs and authorise a carte blanche on uniform changes and waive the rules pertaining to Revenue Sharing with a guarantee Phoenix receives full pop for 4yrs minimum moving forward.
As for any nonsense arguments that in lowering the price it will hurt league wide franchise values Im calling that out for what it is. Total BS that smells worse than a 50,000 head feedlot in April. Did Viniks app 80M buy of Tampa kill values with the league claiming it was double that?. Look at the Blues. Look all over the frikin league. Utterly lame inexcusable disingenuous lie to suggest dropping the price is gonna harm league wide franchise values and Im having none of it.
Anyone who believes that and buys so spurious an answer for why the league wont do as suggested above I submit doesnt know %%&+ from Shinola and is obviously one of Garys Boys blithely believing whatever the league says when the reality of the matter is that there first & foremost greedy and secondly completely incompetent.
Translation: No one is gonna let the COG mess things up again like they did with Hulsizer.
Considering that MH failed to close the deal with the Blues, I more convinced that he wasn't for real in this whole mess rather just a tire kicker and smoke and mirrors. Even if MH was the real deal then blame Goldwater for ruining the deal and even Gary Bettman said GWI was to blame for the deal breaking down.
If the NHL can block moves to other cities, they should have seen Glendale did not contain their hockey fans and stopped the movement to Glendale.
They weren't interested in what was already there. They were interested in what was potentially headed there. And back then it was whole 'nother environment than what it is now.
Remember the team ended up in Phoenix because the original plan for Minnesota tanked. And the NHL wanted into the Phoenix market at some point. Had Glendale not built the arena you'd be all talking about Portland, Oregon right now.
