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02-29-2012, 10:10 AM
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Season ticket renewal invoices just went out. The 300 are looking forward to continued playoff runs.
Doubt it means much either way. If the team stays, they'll send out the tickets as they always do. If the team goes, they'll issue refunds, as the Thrashers did last year.

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Doubt it means much either way. If the team stays, they'll send out the tickets as they always do. If the team goes, they'll issue refunds, as the Thrashers did last year.
Yeah, and ASG was still accepting Thrasher season ticket purchase the day that the relocation was announced.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...urn=nhl-wp6063

Even if the team does relocate and the NHL has to refund the tickets, those that do buy them will essentially be giving the NHL an interest free loan for a few months.

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I suppose they keep the money in trust until summer or something.

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Anybody watching this for 2 months could become nuts quickly

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Well, it's about that time I guess ...
70 threads, so probably about 70,000 posts.

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I just realized part XIV title was: To infinity and beyond. This was oct 2010!

The funniest one is probably Pain in the AZ, clever fun.
There were about 300 posts per day last March, including the cupcake summit and "the letter"

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Anybody watching this for 2 months could become nuts quickly
Two months??

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Glendale had to have City Manager Beasley go ask the NHL attorneys if they would be willing to restructure this years $25MM payment. During budget planning the city discovered that they are about $5MM light on fulfilling their obligation. So, Scruggs dispatched Beasley to try to work out a payment plan.

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Glendale had to have City Manager Beasley go ask the NHL attorneys if they would be willing to restructure this years $25MM payment. During budget planning the city discovered that they are about $5MM light on fulfilling their obligation. So, Scruggs dispatched Beasley to try to work out a payment plan.

Glendale, Arizona -the United States #1 Municipal Comedy Troupe
CoG proposal.... We will pay you when we can afford it.... Promise.

NHL response.... Hmmmmmm..... no!

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Glendale had to have City Manager Beasley go ask the NHL attorneys if they would be willing to restructure this years $25MM payment. During budget planning the city discovered that they are about $5MM light on fulfilling their obligation. So, Scruggs dispatched Beasley to try to work out a payment plan.

Glendale, Arizona -the United States #1 Municipal Comedy Troupe
18 months of free parking...

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70 threads, so probably about 70,000 posts.



There were about 300 posts per day last March, including the cupcake summit and "the letter"



Two months??

I tried watching it for 2 minutes and I am still OK, at least, I think so.

2 hours could be done.

Next try would be 2 days.. Mmmm not sure LOL!

I won't take a chance on 2 weeks, that's for sure!

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Glendale had to have City Manager Beasley go ask the NHL attorneys if they would be willing to restructure this years $25MM payment. During budget planning the city discovered that they are about $5MM light on fulfilling their obligation. So, Scruggs dispatched Beasley to try to work out a payment plan.

Glendale, Arizona -the United States #1 Municipal Comedy Troupe
Is there a link for this?
I completely believe you because this is very plausible - I just want to read more about it.

Maybe if Beasley shows up with a tray of these, but arranged to spell Mea Culpa....

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Is there a link for this?
I completely believe you because this is very plausible - I just want to read more about it.

Maybe if Beasley shows up with a tray of these, but arranged to spell Mea Culpa....
I have no idea if there was anything written about it but you can watch it:
http://www.glendaleaz.com/clerk/agendasandminutes/

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CoG proposal.... We will pay you when we can afford it.... Promise.

NHL response.... Hmmmmmm..... no!
The Yotes may well win a round this year and 20 million will be enough. May as well say nothing and gamble

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"But with Hulsizer moving on and exploring other NHL opportunities, one wonders if there isn't a lot of second-guessing going on in Glendale. Hulsizer's last proposal to local leaders was to purchase the controversial municipal bonds that were key to a new lease agreement between him and the City of Glendale. That proposal would have put an additional $5 million in the city coffers, a source confirmed to ESPN.com."

It's amazing that Hulsizer knew they would have a shortfall of exactly $5mio a year ago and now in an amazing coincidence they do.

No wonder we don't have an owner!!!

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"But with Hulsizer moving on and exploring other NHL opportunities, one wonders if there isn't a lot of second-guessing going on in Glendale. Hulsizer's last proposal to local leaders was to purchase the controversial municipal bonds that were key to a new lease agreement between him and the City of Glendale. That proposal would have put an additional $5 million in the city coffers, a source confirmed to ESPN.com."

It's amazing that Hulsizer knew they would have a shortfall of exactly $5mio a year ago and now in an amazing coincidence they do.

No wonder we don't have an owner!!!
It's not any kind of secret. Glendale has known about the $5MM shortfall since the inception of the agreement. The reason it's a topic now is that the city is facing the procedural requirement of accounting for it in the budget but they haven't identified a funding source. Staff eluded to various inter-fund loan possibilities but Scruggs wanted Beasley to contact the NHL to explore deferment / payment plan options as well.

I hope the NHL is open to the idea. I also hope that Beasley decides to present the interest rate for deferred amounts to the Council in pantomime.

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No, I mean, if there is a positive solution, I think its time to state it.

Comes a time you must tell people whats happening. I agree, if its positive, like I mentionned, its appropriate.
But... What would be considered positive?

If the team looks like it will stay in Glendale, then QC and Canadians are upset.

If the team looks like it will move to QC, then Coyote fans are upset.

The NHL can't win. Best to say nothing until the final results are in.

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Given that COG is having problems meeting this season's payment, can we safely assume they won't authorize another season at $25 million?

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Given that COG is having problems meeting this season's payment, can we safely assume they won't authorize another season at $25 million?
No.

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It's not any kind of secret. Glendale has known about the $5MM shortfall since the inception of the agreement. The reason it's a topic now is that the city is facing the procedural requirement of accounting for it in the budget but they haven't identified a funding source. Staff eluded to various inter-fund loan possibilities but Scruggs wanted Beasley to contact the NHL to explore deferment / payment plan options as well.

It hope the NHL is open to the idea. I also hope that Beasley decides to present the interest rate for deferred amounts to the Council in pantomime.
It would be awesome if he did one of these



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Given that COG is having problems meeting this season's payment, can we safely assume they won't authorize another season at $25 million?
At this point, nobody can safely assume anything other than wishful thinking on your part.

No news is no news.

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11 - 0 - 1 is how the Phoenix Coyotes take care of the business of hockey in February!

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Yeah, and ASG was still accepting Thrasher season ticket purchase the day that the relocation was announced.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...urn=nhl-wp6063


Even if the team does relocate and the NHL has to refund the tickets, those that do buy them will essentially be giving the NHL an interest free loan for a few months.
The thrashers even had their ticket upgrade event last year!

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Given that COG is having problems meeting this season's payment, can we safely assume they won't authorize another season at $25 million?
They may not pay $25 million but it certainly looks like they are more than willing to pay $20 million next season. the budget is only in draft stage but I would fully expect the COG to continue paying.

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The staff has allocated $20 million in the draft budget for fiscal year 2012-13, which begins July 1, for the management of Jobing.com Arena. Schurhammer said the $20 million reflects the amount in the current-year budget.
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The thrashers even had their ticket upgrade event last year!
Yes that was pretty cruel to do to the fanbase. Most reports had only a couple hundred people showing up. I would hope that the NHL wouldn't do that to Coyotes fans.

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The Thrashers fan club is planning a rally before the team's annual select-a-seat event for season-ticket holders at Philips Arena on Saturday.

Lisa Lewis, the fan club president, said Wednesday she expects a "pretty big turnout."

According to reports in Atlanta and Winnipeg, Thrashers owners are in negotiations with True North Sports and Entertainment, which would relocate the team to Winnipeg.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=366144

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I heard that everything should be made much clearer in two more weeks.

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I heard that everything should be made much clearer in two more weeks.
You would think that joke would be getting old now...

...nope...

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