Even though the Sedins didn't get a point on the Burrows goal, the goal doesn't happen without the Sedins controlling the puck in the attacking zone for the first part of the shift (Bieksa's lucky whiff also played a role).
Last couple of years, the team has runned and gunned, looking to win by 4 or 5 instead of 1 or 2. It created bad habits. This season, the team, including the Sedins, is looking to get their game airtight defensively heading into the playoffs. The team has matured to the point where they recognize that always trying to win by 7 makes it harder to win by 1 when you have to.
I'm not worried about our offense in the playoffs. At all. If the post-deadline games are anything to go by, we're not going to need a ton of offense to win games. We managed 15 Ws last postseason even though our offense dried up. This year we'll be even tougher to score against, and we're built to better handle the grind that is the Stanley Cup tournament.
Peeps can doom and gloom all they want, but we're a team that can win scoring 1, 2, 3 goals a game. I don't care if we score 16 goals total in the playoffs (including 0 from the Sedins) if those 16 goals are enough to get 16 Ws.
All these sucky teams are trapping and clutching and grabbing and the NHL loves it. But we can play that game too hence we keep winning or going to o.t. How do you explain their goalies stats. There also isn't too much motivation when you've already collected your stats in years past. I.e ovechkin. I'm happy if we finish the year off not burnt out and healthy.
So I was looking up some stats regarding the Sedins' point totals against all Western conference foes and found the following:
Daniel and Henrik scored at a pace of PPG or higher against the following teams:
Daniel -
CHI (5 in 3 games)
NASH (6 in 4 games)
MIN (10 in 5 games)
ANA (4 in 3 games)
EDM (6 in 5 games)
CBJ (3 in 3 games)
Henrik -
CHI (6 in 3 games)
DET (4 in 4 games)
NASH (6 in 4 games)
MIN (7 in 5 games)
ANA (3 in 3 games)
EDM (6 in 5 games)
COL (4 in 4 games)
They've done surprisingly well against Nashville and Chicago compared to the rest of the upper echelon teams this year but have struggled with St. Louis, LA, Phoenix and (surprisingly) San Jose.
It should be noted that of the top ten points getters, the first seven are all eastern conference; most likely owing to the fact that defense is no where near as stifling as it is in the western conference. The last three are Henrik, Daniel and then Marian Hossa. In addition, only Eberle and Datsyuk round out the top 20 when it comes to western conference scorers. 15 east vs 5 west.
I'd love for the Sedins to be on top, but if they can maintain top 10 standings in this ridiculously tight western conference, I'm happy.
The Sedins slowly got better, and became a point a game players.
And then they surprised a lot of people, including me, and became 100 point a year players for the 2 previous seasons.
Right now they seem to have returned to a point a game players.
Maybe they will surprise and return to 100 point players in the next 2 or so seasons, but I believe it is unlikely.
Part of the reason might be that the NHL is a league where goals are increasingly hard to find. But another reason is that most players decline once they hit their thirties.
I still love what the Sedins have to offer. A point a game is still a first line level of production.
Well now with Pahlsson here facing teams top lines and Sedins as well as Kesler being more open to score we may start to see their numbers jump, and we are mostly home till the playoffs. But if Sedins retire after this contract is up, 2 more season then we could be ****ed.
Well now with Pahlsson here facing teams top lines and Sedins as well as Kesler being more open to score we may start to see their numbers jump, and we are mostly home till the playoffs. But if Sedins retire after this contract is up, 2 more season then we could be ****ed.
I think this is why the Schneider trade is so important at the draft.
My hope is the Canucks can get a high 1st round pick and a high 2nd round pick to get some pieces for C/LW for a couple years away.
Centers to target high: Alex Galchenyuk, Radek Faksa, Zemgus Girgensons
LWer to target later: Daniil Zharkov
Other Centers can target with a late 1st/early 2nd: Tomas Hertl, Stefan Matteau
Would really like the Canucks to try to get Tampa's 1st and 2nd,
Try to take Faksa and Hertl (the 2 high rated Czech's) and maybe a Dalton Thrower in that mix late 1st/early 2nd on Defense.
I think this is why the Schneider trade is so important at the draft.
My hope is the Canucks can get a high 1st round pick and a high 2nd round pick to get some pieces for C/LW for a couple years away.
Centers to target high: Alex Galchenyuk, Radek Faksa, Zemgus Girgensons
LWer to target later: Daniil Zharkov
Other Centers can target with a late 1st/early 2nd: Tomas Hertl, Stefan Matteau
Would really like the Canucks to try to get Tampa's 1st and 2nd,
Try to take Faksa and Hertl (the 2 high rated Czech's) and maybe a Dalton Thrower in that mix late 1st/early 2nd on Defense.
I think we need to think about who will replace the twins when their gone, could be 2 season so I hope this is what we get in return from a Schneider trade. Too bad this draft is weak on centre, maybe CBJ would be dumb enough to trade us Johansen
The Sedins will produce like they did last playoffs . Close to ppg most likely . The key to a cup will be Kesler and 2nd line scoring. If this doesn't occur , no cup .
Lets hope pahlsson can take a big load of Keslers minutes .
To add. As the twins get older of they want to hang around as second liners the team will need to build a new top line.
The Sedins will produce like they did last playoffs . Close to ppg most likely . The key to a cup will be Kesler and 2nd line scoring. If this doesn't occur , no cup .
Lets hope pahlsson can take a big load of Keslers minutes .
To add. As the twins get older of they want to hang around as second liners the team will need to build a new top line.
If the Sedins have a repeat of last years playoffs this team is in trouble. They weren't good at all, and only appeared to be PPG players because of that SJ series where Henrik put up 12 points in 5 games, and Daniel put up 6 points in 5 games.
Daniel was held pointless in 13 of the 25 playoff games, while Henrik was held pointless in 14 of the 25 games.
By comparison, Toews and Kane only had 5 and 4 games respectively where they didn't register a point in the year they won the Cup. Crosby and Malkin had 7 and 6 games respctively, and Datsyuk and Zetterberg had 7 and 6 games pointless respectively. These teams that won the Cup had their best forwards show up more often than not on the scoreboard, while our best players had prolonged slumps. If we are going to have success in the playoffs, it's key that the Sedins get on the scoreboard.
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If the Sedins have a repeat of last years playoffs this team is in trouble. They weren't good at all, and only appeared to be PPG players because of that SJ series where Henrik put up 12 points in 5 games, and Daniel put up 6 points in 5 games.
Daniel was held pointless in 13 of the 25 playoff games, while Henrik was held pointless in 14 of the 25 games.
By comparison, Toews and Kane only had 5 and 4 games respectively where they didn't register a point in the year they won the Cup. Crosby and Malkin had 7 and 6 games respctively, and Datsyuk and Zetterberg had 7 and 6 games pointless respectively. These teams that won the Cup had their best forwards show up more often than not on the scoreboard, while our best players had prolonged slumps. If we are going to have success in the playoffs, it's key that the Sedins get on the scoreboard.
I should have clarified . A ppg or around there.. would be acceptable if it was more even and consistent . Spread out over all four series . ( if they so happen to be that lucky )
You seriously believe the Sedins could retire in two years?
The twins will be here for at least four more years IMO . Depending what they do with their families and how effective they are, I could see them playing until they are 36-37. I think they would retire before being traded ever also .
Some swedes like to retire on top. You could tell naslund stopped enjoying the game as his role and skill was declining.
If the twins are willing to take pay cuts and secondary roles as they get older , this team could be very good for a lot longer.
Another mediocre game by the Sedins. Henrik has been pointless in 5 games. Daniel has 1 assist in those 5 games.
By the Sedins standard they're in a hell of a slump. I just can't think that they're regressing at this point when they looked so good in some games just a few months ago. They can turn it around...can't they?
They are still at a PPG pace but just barely. After each having a 100+ point season they have declined back to their old selves (not that they're bad) The Canucks don't have the same 1st line scoring as before. This could be costly when the playoffs roll around.
they relied on the PP a lot for their high point values and given that outside of tonight we've been given **** all in that department it stands to reason that they could see a bit of a dry spell
should end soon though, it usually does. Just need a lucky bounce.
They are still at a PPG pace but just barely. After each having a 100+ point season they have declined back to their old selves (not that they're bad) The Canucks don't have the same 1st line scoring as before. This could be costly when the playoffs roll around.
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They were on pace for 90+ points until last month. They've really fallen off lately.
Daniel has 9 points in 12 games...1 in the last 5.
Henrik has 8 points in 12 games...0 in the last 5.
They are still at a PPG pace but just barely. After each having a 100+ point season they have declined back to their old selves (not that they're bad) The Canucks don't have the same 1st line scoring as before. This could be costly when the playoffs roll around.
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Not exactly. They used to be reliable in their own end when they were PPG players. They're still looking to breakout early for easy offence but the offence ain't coming.
I don't give a rats ass if they don't score again in the regular season, as long as they show up in the playoffs.
To go scoreless in the final 16 then expect them to score in the playoffs is...interesting. Besides EVERYONE should want 1st place with how well Detroit plays at home.
I don't give a rats ass if they don't score again in the regular season, as long as they show up in the playoffs.
You really think they can just flip a switch in the playoffs? Their game doesn't depend as much on effort as most other players...it depends on their skillset and having the confidence to use it in games. If they can't turn it around in the regular season there's very little reason to think they can do it in the intensity of the playoffs.
