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02-29-2012, 10:02 PM
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with the way the isles are losing games all we need is a stroke of luck for Edmonton and Montreal to pass us and we finish 2nd. We also could still get that lottery pick

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with the way the isles are losing games all we need is a stroke of luck for Edmonton and Montreal to pass us and we finish 2nd. We also could still get that lottery pick
Not happening. You've got Tavares, we've got Gomez.
We need this.

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03-01-2012, 12:13 AM
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Not happening. You've got Tavares, we've got Gomez.
We need this.
one horrible player on a horrible contract does not mean a team is in titled to a first overall

isles can't sign free agents, habs can
isles need this

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03-01-2012, 12:15 AM
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Flames are old,

Flames need this, give us all the picks please.

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if you have a chance to draft the next pavel bure, you get that guy at all costs, especially if your in columbus' boat...
are you seriously saying yakupov is the next pavel bure?

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are you seriously saying yakupov is the next pavel bure?
That's actually a pretty good comparison.

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03-01-2012, 01:58 AM
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That's actually a pretty good comparison.
style of play, sure , but when people say "the next ..." it imply's that they will dominate as much as that player

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03-01-2012, 08:02 AM
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High picks have a great deal of value for teams that are, by definition, in the cellar that year and possess those picks. Securing a trade for one of those picks, when you are not proposing a swap of a similarly high pick, is extremely difficult and happens very rarely. To play in those waters, you have to offer up another similar pick, else offer a blue-chip prospect.

Say we're discussing a team like the Islanders, which will have a high pick to offer. Most of the time, the difference between a very high pick and another very high pick is not enormous. A swap plus a sweetener is usually what changes hands when teams decide to do it. They key is that they don't do it often.

What often happens is that the team with the very top pick typically wants the pub that comes with using the first overall pick. Else, there may be a very strong player that year, and the perceived drop is substantial enough to hold off for that reason alone. Tiers change each year, and there may be a 1a / 1b, and then a drop, or five players worth a great deal on a plateau, then a steep drop. All factors.

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03-01-2012, 08:50 AM
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I'd rather trade the pick for some help now, screw another high pick.

Agreed 100%. I'm so tired of draft picks to the NYI.

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The drop off in talent between Yakupov and the rest is such that I'd only consider trading the 1st for Tavares.

Plus if/when Nash gets dealt it could likely be for a high 1st + roster player. So we wouldn't need to necessarily trade down to pick up a defenseman.
that's your opinion... if MacKenzie say Yakupov/Grigorenko as 1st overall I'd prefer his opinion to technically anyone... (unles your team really wants a winger over a center)

as per the proposal, I say keep your pick and continue developping at a normal rate bcz the top five is full of highly skilled players

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You want the 1st from Columbus? Okay, we will trade you Yakupov for Tavares. Anything else is really a no thanks.
Ok? hahaha keep it. Yakupov is an amazing talent, but known to be looked at as a pretty selfish player. Rick Nash wanted out. Do you think this guy who's KNOWN to have a selfish mentality is going to want to stay with Columbus? Im not saying he'd be running to be an Islander because that's certainly not the case. But the Islanders have a defense that needs help. Ryan Murray or Mathew Dumba, sign me up.

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Agreed 100%. I'm so tired of draft picks to the NYI.
if it was the first overall you would be excited

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if it was the first overall you would be excited
It would depend on how we aquired it. If we won the lottery yes but if we traded assests for it aboslutly not!

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if Habs end up with 3 or 4th and Isles 7 or 8 I would consider our first for Nino and your first

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if Habs end up with 3 or 4th and Isles 7 or 8 I would consider our first for Nino and your first
i have absolutely no desire to do that

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You're overvaluing Tavares there way too much. It's Rick Nash.

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if it was the first overall you would be excited
I wouldn't, I want NHL players. The thought of Yakupov on the Islanders makes me sick, just shows another fail of a season and no hope for the future. We trade that pick, we get a player that could help immediately. I understand Yakupov is going to be good, but we need an NHL defenseman and a 2nd line center to compete for the playoffs next year.

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03-01-2012, 07:38 PM
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If Columbus wins...
With the potential dealing of Rick Nash, they lose a franchise player. If they want a new franchise player, they need to draft Yakupov. Also, they would need to keep the fans interested so I'm sure they would use their 1st overall selection as their marketing ploy. I think it would take a lot for Columbus to deal the 1st overall pick. Would they rather have a potential franchise player or receive multiple high end prospects(Islanders 1st rounder, Neiddereitter, etc)?
*Johansen and Niederrreiter were teammates in junior. Might want to reunite those 2.

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