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03-07-2012, 09:59 AM
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So Spring Training means nothing, but Brett Jackson has 3 home runs in 5 games.
Although, two of those were in intra-squad games, so they only sorta count.

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03-07-2012, 10:07 AM
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Although, two of those were in intra-squad games, so they only sorta count.
Right, I should have stated as much.

Best thing Soriano could do is have a bounce back year where the Cubs can trade him salary away at the deadline.

Cubs only have $89 million in, in uniform payroll this year. Lowest its been in a decade. (several mil more still going to Zambrano, Silva, Pena).

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No issue with saving the money for the seasons we have a chance. Hopefully Soriano can launch 25 and keep the average above .250, OBP abover .300. If he can do that, he can be moved IMO. It would still be a Zambrano type deal but at least we could move on.

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No issue with saving the money for the seasons we have a chance. Hopefully Soriano can launch 25 and keep the average above .250, OBP abover .300. If he can do that, he can be moved IMO. It would still be a Zambrano type deal but at least we could move on.
Yea, plus the fact is I don't want to see the team go out and spend stupid money just to spend it. The time isn't right, and they players we want aren't out there yet. In a couple years, I'm sure our spend will be higher.

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03-07-2012, 01:16 PM
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Yea, plus the fact is I don't want to see the team go out and spend stupid money just to spend it. The time isn't right, and they players we want aren't out there yet. In a couple years, I'm sure our spend will be higher.
IIRC, there are a number of prime aged front line starters available next offseason. That would be my first move, getting one of them.

EDIT (just double checked that):

Matt Cain, 28
Zack Greinke, 28
Cole Hamels, 29
Anibal Sanchez, 29

I'd definitely get one of these guys. We have Dempster coming off the books.

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03-07-2012, 01:17 PM
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IIRC, there are a number of prime aged front line starters available next offseason. That would be my first move, getting one of them.

EDIT (just double checked that):

Matt Cain, 28
Zack Greinke, 28
Cole Hamels, 29
Anibal Sanchez, 29

I'd definitely get one of these guys. We have Dempster coming off the books.
I remember reading that too and agree 100%.

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03-07-2012, 01:42 PM
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IIRC, there are a number of prime aged front line starters available next offseason. That would be my first move, getting one of them.

EDIT (just double checked that):

Matt Cain, 28
Zack Greinke, 28
Cole Hamels, 29
Anibal Sanchez, 29

I'd definitely get one of these guys. We have Dempster coming off the books.
Forget 1, get 2. They have Zambrano (16 mil) and Dempster (14 mil) coming off the books. Extend Garza for 5 years (discount due to covering only 4 years of free agency) and get Cain and Hamels for 5 years and you have quite the formidable pitching staff for the next half decade.

Garza
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Woods (guy from Cinci can't remember if its Wood or Woods)
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You can win with that starting rotation.

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You guys are also assuming that all of those guys won't resign this year or before FA next year. Wouldn't be surprised if Cain and Hammels both get contracts. Then your competing with the Yankees and Redsox who can and will offer more then the Cubs can. Realistically the Cubs could get one of those guys who do become available.

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You guys are also assuming that all of those guys won't resign this year or before FA next year. Wouldn't be surprised if Cain and Hammels both get contracts. Then your competing with the Yankees and Redsox who can and will offer more then the Cubs can. Realistically the Cubs could get one of those guys who do become available.
Gotta think Hamels will be available given what they already pay Doc and Lee. Hamels is just a notch below those two, but he'll get #1 money IMO. I just don't see how they can put that much payroll into those three guys, especially with Utley and Rollins being up there in age these days, and the uncertainty of Howard.

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03-07-2012, 02:12 PM
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You guys are also assuming that all of those guys won't resign this year or before FA next year. Wouldn't be surprised if Cain and Hammels both get contracts. Then your competing with the Yankees and Redsox who can and will offer more then the Cubs can. Realistically the Cubs could get one of those guys who do become available.
Agreed, they very well could get resigned by then. I don't think Hamels will resign though, he'll look for a big pay day and the Phils have huge money in Halladay, Lee, and Howard.

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Agreed, they very well could get resigned by then. I don't think Hamels will resign though, he'll look for a big pay day and the Phils have huge money in Halladay, Lee, and Howard.
Same goes for Sanchez. I know I like him a little bit more than most but he's a consistent ground ball pitcher and with all of the money spent in Miami, if people don't show up for those games, I doubt they go out of their way to stay with the elite spenders.

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If Hammels does become available the Cubs will be 4-5 down the list to sign him. Yankees and Redsox will be the top, I would put Miami up there as they have proven they will spend almost endlessly. It's certainly not a guarantee that they will get him and would have to overspend drastically to do so.

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If Hammels does become available the Cubs will be 4-5 down the list to sign him. Yankees and Redsox will be the top, I would put Miami up there as they have proven they will spend almost endlessly. It's certainly not a guarantee that they will get him and would have to overspend drastically to do so.
Maybe, maybe not. Contrary to popular belief, not everyone wants to play in New York and Boston. The Cubs will be able to competitively bid with any team for any of those pitchers. This is Hamels big contract so he is certainly going to command a huge deal. Probably will go to whatever team will offer him 6 or 7 years.

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Maybe, maybe not. Contrary to popular belief, not everyone wants to play in New York and Boston. The Cubs will be able to competitively bid with any team for any of those pitchers. This is Hamels big contract so he is certainly going to command a huge deal. Probably will go to whatever team will offer him 6 or 7 years.
Not according to ESPN

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Maybe, maybe not. Contrary to popular belief, not everyone wants to play in New York and Boston. The Cubs will be able to competitively bid with any team for any of those pitchers. This is Hamels big contract so he is certainly going to command a huge deal. Probably will go to whatever team will offer him 6 or 7 years.
Madgoat had that right on.

It's not about playing in those cities its about money. If the person wants the most money those teams will offer it. If Hammels has a desire to play in Chicago or wants to stay in the NL then the Cubs have a good chance. But if it comes down to sheer money, the Cubs will far short.

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I'd much rather have Scott Baker than Anibal Sanchez.

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Peavy today:
Pulled after 2 IP, 4 H, 3 ER and 2 K. 36 pitches, 25 strikes. He also hit a batter and threw a wild pitch.

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Pulled after 2 IP, 4 H, 3 ER and 2 K. 36 pitches, 25 strikes. He also hit a batter and threw a wild pitch.
He's done. He's been injured for an extended period of time every year since 2007. I was a big Peavy fan before then but even I knew those mechanics weren't going to hold up.

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03-07-2012, 06:08 PM
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Madgoat had that right on.

It's not about playing in those cities its about money. If the person wants the most money those teams will offer it. If Hammels has a desire to play in Chicago or wants to stay in the NL then the Cubs have a good chance. But if it comes down to sheer money, the Cubs will far short.
Maybe,maybe not. The Cubs will have about 70 mil in payroll next year. They could add 70 mil in contracts if they wanted. They can be very competitive in the free agent market next year if they so choose.

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D-Rose is a cold-blooded ****ing assassin. I love that kid. I never was old enough to see Jordan play, so this is the superstar I get to grow up to watch play. Rose is humble, creative, clutch, and amazing. He's just a special athlete.

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Derrick Rose = LEGEND

He is the real MVP, not that fake one that only plays in the first 44 minutes of the game and crumbles under pressure. Who nickenames himself things like Chosen One and King. Hey other guy change your nickname to The Queen until you prove otherwise.

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Derrick Rose = LEGEND

He is the real MVP, not that fake one that only plays in the first 44 minutes of the game and crumbles under pressure. Who nickenames himself things like Chosen One and King. Hey other guy change your nickname to The Queen until you prove otherwise.
His Quitness or Choking One are my favorites.

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They really needed a last second shot to beat Milwaukee???

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