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I know there has been a lot of talk about Vancouver trading Cory Schneider. Since the deadline has passed they will either resign him which I believe is unlikely because of Luongo, or trade him. He is fairly young (25) and has the potential to be a elite goalie in the coming years. Just curious what you guys think about this trade:
To Vancouver:
Detroit's 1st round pick
Dustin Tokarski
To Tampa Bay:
Cory Schneider
Tokarski is the Norfolk Admirals starting goalie who currently leads the AHL in wins. Always shows up in the big games, and has the ability to be a starter down the road.
Cory Schneider will be a premium price...Tokarski and (essentially) 2nd round pick won't be enough. Canucks will be looking for something that will help them now (I assume quality defensemen).
I have a feeling that there is going to be a bidding war for him. And with that said i feel its going to be between CBJ and TB for him so with that said i expect it to come down to deal off:
CBJ: Ryan Johanssen +
TB: Brett Connolly +
and Cory will end up on the team thats willing to add the biggest piece to the forward coming here.
Unless there is a goalie starved team willing to move a top young dman(Gardiner) but i doubt the leafs consider that.
Gotta ask Canucks fans since I can't understand why they wouldn't trade Schneider...do you think the team is holding out on trading him in case they can find a taker for Luongo in the off-season? There's no way Schneider re-ups for more than next season since he knows, as we all do, that he's gonna be a #1 and could be right now.
And to the poster above, no way either of those teams give up those players + when they can endure one more season then just sign Schneider.
For the Lightning I say yes. I don't think Vancouver does, though.
I am curious as to what it is going to take to pry Schneider away. He's do for a pay raise, and I'm sure HE wants to be a #1, so I don't know how easy it's going to be for Vancouver to sign him at a decent price. He'll be looking at what, a 3 million dollar payday or something? Can Vancouver justify 8+million in cap room devoted to their back end?
Other than the four untouchables (Stamkos, St. Louis, Vinny, Hedman), what does Vancouver think the price would be?
I have a feeling that there is going to be a bidding war for him. And with that said i feel its going to be between CBJ and TB for him so with that said i expect it to come down to deal off:
CBJ: Ryan Johanssen +
TB: Brett Connolly +
and Cory will end up on the team thats willing to add the biggest piece to the forward coming here.
Unless there is a goalie starved team willing to move a top young dman(Gardiner) but i doubt the leafs consider that.
That makes absolutely no sense...consider that Cody Hodgson was traded because he couldn't crack the top-6 and isn't a winger that the Canucks could use. Johansen is a centre, he's not going to provide anything for the Canucks that they don't already have in Henrik Sedin and Ryan Kesler. It's redundant trade. As for Connolly, given that TB has aging (but still a viable forward in) Marty ST. Louis, there's no reason why they'd trade Connolly.
The Canucks need a defenseman (an upgrade on Ehrhoff) more than they need a forward.
Canucks were offered the #11 pick in the draft last year + a top 9 forward from the Avalanche. If the lightning want Cory, it will take their 1st +.
1. This is an interpretation of a rumor.
2.This rumor was about Colorado who is now out of the market for a goalie.
3.Next summer Schneider will be 1 year older, his cheap contract will expire, he could receive a offer sheet, and he will be 1 year closer to UFA eligibility. To the eyes of many all these point usually decrease a player value.
I know you guys do not think this is a fair trade but if you look at Schneider's stat line, it is a very small sample size on an extremely good time. He has played 49 games in the last two years with GAA of 2.23 and 2.13 which is exceptional.
But you have to look at other trades of young goalies like Schneider. Look at the Halak trade. He went 26-13-5 with a 2.48 GAA and a .925 SV%. So in this one season Halak has pretty much the same amount of games on a slightly less-skilled team. He took Montreal into the playoffs and was the sole reason they made it to the 2nd round. He posted a 9-9 record with a 2.55 GAA and a .923 SV%.
After the season Halak was traded for Lars Eller (former 14th overall pick from 2007) and Ian Schultz ( former 87th overall pick from 2008).Overall i think that the trade is pretty equal that I first posted.
Detroits 1st Round Pick <Lars Eller
Tokarski> Ian Schultz
I know there has been a lot of talk about Vancouver trading Cory Schneider. Since the deadline has passed they will either resign him which I believe is unlikely because of Luongo, or trade him. He is fairly young (25) and has the potential to be a elite goalie in the coming years. Just curious what you guys think about this trade:
To Vancouver:
Detroit's 1st round pick
Dustin Tokarski
To Tampa Bay:
Cory Schneider
Tokarski is the Norfolk Admirals starting goalie who currently leads the AHL in wins. Always shows up in the big games, and has the ability to be a starter down the road.
Thoughts??
I honestly think it's gonna take your early first and Connolly.
I honestly think it's gonna take your early first and Connolly.
I think that if this is the kind of return that Canuck fan is expecting for a guy who has never been a #1 goalie, then they will be in for a rude awakening.
I know you guys do not think this is a fair trade but if you look at Schneider's stat line, it is a very small sample size on an extremely good time. He has played 49 games in the last two years with GAA of 2.23 and 2.13 which is exceptional.
But you have to look at other trades of young goalies like Schneider. Look at the Halak trade. He went 26-13-5 with a 2.48 GAA and a .925 SV%. So in this one season Halak has pretty much the same amount of games on a slightly less-skilled team. He took Montreal into the playoffs and was the sole reason they made it to the 2nd round. He posted a 9-9 record with a 2.55 GAA and a .923 SV%.
After the season Halak was traded for Lars Eller (former 14th overall pick from 2007) and Ian Schultz ( former 87th overall pick from 2008).Overall i think that the trade is pretty equal that I first posted.
Detroits 1st Round Pick <Lars Eller
Tokarski> Ian Schultz
Thoughts?
IMO, You are right in your reasoning (I could add that Schneider will be one year older than Halak was in 2010.)
The problem with your offer... Tampa Bay doesn't need a goalie back.
Make an offer similar to the Halak trade..if Vancouver say no that's really fine... just let another team grab Schneider, or offer sheet him, or look at the other goalie options around the league.
I honestly think it's gonna take your early first and Connolly.
For Tampa first and Connolly, Montreal could consider sending Price + + and begin a reconstruction. As a Montreal fan, i would do it. Price + Emelin + 2nd from Nashville?
