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Only intriguing young defenceman/asset the canucks would want from the lightning is victor hedman. However, that isn't happening considering he's unlikely to be traded.
Canucks fans who are saying Tampa 1st and Connolly are insane. It will be something like Tampa's 2x late 1sts and a 3rd, or Connolly and TBL 2nd, or TBL 1st and a late 2nd. Something along those lines if he goes to Tampa. We need to be reasonable here and set a fair price or they look elsewhere for a goalie.
Connolly is a top prospect, like Schneider, who is undeveloped. Add a 2nd to that to make up for the risk and you have a pretty fair deal if you ask me.
All I would want on Tampa - outside of MSL & Stamkos of course - would be Hedman. Connolly is good too but doesn't really fit.
The way I see it, there are quite a few teams vying for Schneider and during this coming off-season Gillis can sit back and work draft day deals until he finds the right one. There is no deadline for dealing Schneider and worst case scenario says the team could sign him and trade him during next year as he's still only an RFA. If a team tries to offer-sheet him I say take the 1st rounders and wish him the best.
They will trade him for assets and Connolly is that. There is a poor fit between Canuck needs and the teams that have keepers available. The best fit would have been Phoenix prior to their acquisition of Smith as they have a ton of young defenders (far too many IMO).
Buyers:
Tampa
Toronto Columbus
New Jersey
Possible:
Edmonton
Washington
Improbable:
NY Islanders
Chicago
Philadelphia
San Jose
According to 19canuck90........
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Originally Posted by 19canuck90
There is no chance if Schnieder is a UFA he signs in columbus aside from massive overpayment, and i guess Tampa is possible but by NO means a guarentee.
I dont see why Colombus would be interrested in a one year Schneider rental. And i dont think Tampa Bay would give a fortune to acquiere Schneider if its by NO means a garantee they will be able to keep him.
not sure if this has been posted, and correct me if im wrong, but --
Schneider is offersheet-eligible RFA this summer, then UFA next summer.
So there's no way he signs more than a one-year deal with the Cancuks this summer, barring a very unlikely Luongo trade. He's been a great team guy and has earned his right to be a starter, so I think there's a 80% chance Gillis moves him to give him that shot before July 1st, and a 15% chance he signs another 1 year deal, and a 5% chance Luongo gets moved and Cory signs long term w the Canucks.
That said, with this trade Gillis will be looking for a Salo replacement, so a top 4 young solid, but offensive, Dman of comparable calibre to Schneider (meaning pretty darn good.) In the event that Gragnani flourishes the rest of this season, he will probably want just high picks.
It's also very possible that he's being judicious with capspace to leave room to go after Weber in summer 2013; more reason to target only picks & prospects for Cory.
I dont see why Colombus would be interrested in a one year Schneider rental. And i dont think Tampa Bay would give a fortune to acquiere Schneider if its by NO means a garantee they will be able to keep him.
Schneider will likely be a sign and trade on a medium term deal. I don't think he'd have any issue going to Columbus. He wants to be a starter and Columbus with JMFJ and their other D and Schneider in net have the basis of a really good Spine. Ryan Johanson and Brassard are currently their projected top two centers which is fine for a rebuilding club. They also have two first rounders this year and the proceeds from Rick Nash. With proper leadership, Columbus have the ability to get out of this mess. I am quite certain Cory would have no issue going there for the long term.
not sure if this has been posted, and correct me if im wrong, but --
Schneider is offersheet-eligible RFA this summer, then UFA next summer.
So there's no way he signs more than a one-year deal with the Cancuks this summer, barring a very unlikely Luongo trade. He's been a great team guy and has earned his right to be a starter, so I think there's a 80% chance Gillis moves him to give him that shot before July 1st, and a 15% chance he signs another 1 year deal, and a 5% chance Luongo gets moved and Cory signs long term w the Canucks.
That said, with this trade Gillis will be looking for a Salo replacement, so a top 4 young solid, but offensive, Dman of comparable calibre to Schneider (meaning pretty darn good.) In the event that Gragnani flourishes the rest of this season, he will probably want just high picks.
It's also very possible that he's being judicious with capspace to leave room to go after Weber in summer 2013; more reason to target only picks & prospects for Cory.
None of the teams that want Cory have that asset available. Schenn is the only option in that regard.
Schneider will likely be a sign and trade on a medium term deal. I don't think he'd have any issue going to Columbus. He wants to be a starter and Columbus with JMFJ and their other D and Schneider in net have the basis of a really good Spine. Ryan Johanson and Brassard are currently their projected top two centers which is fine for a rebuilding club. They also have two first rounders this year and the proceeds from Rick Nash. With proper leadership, Columbus have the ability to get out of this mess. I am quite certain Cory would have no issue going there for the long term.
I dont see why Schneider would agree to sign and trade on a medium deal and have no control on his destination.... (and be obliged to stay in colombus the term of the deal)
Instead of signing one year deal..then choose a team and get bigger $ as UFA.
So there's no way he signs more than a one-year deal with the Cancuks this summer, barring a very unlikely Luongo trade. He's been a great team guy and has earned his right to be a starter, so I think there's a 80% chance Gillis moves him to give him that shot before July 1st, and a 15% chance he signs another 1 year deal, and a 5% chance Luongo gets moved and Cory signs long term w the Canucks.
now I never said anything about a 1st, I just said a package including Connolly. And even if it is Connolly and a 1st, I think "mortgaging the future" is hyperbolic.
My original post was in reply to someone who said that Schneider should fetch Tampa's 1st and Connolly.
Overrated do not want. Do not want any toronto players for that matter.
I think the devils would be a good partner. Would they do either of these?
schnieds + tanev for larsson
schnieds + 1st for Clarkson + 1st
Most Devils fans admit, with the Kovy thing, they will most likely forfeit this year 1st since they are in a Playoff position.
Both proposals are crap no doubt, but the first reason is the only reason these won't happen that actually matter.
And to all the offer sheet speculation, I'd be willing to go as high as 3 million before I stop considering the Match. If CBJ were to offer sheet Cory at that, I may take the week to not match and heavily think it over. That 1st n 3rd could be very nice piece in 2013, especially if Weber is still available.
I dont see why Schneider would agree to sign and trade on a medium deal and have no control on his destination.... (and be obliged to stay in colombus the term of the deal)
Instead of signing one year deal..then choose a team and get bigger $ as UFA.
One min your saying Schneider is no better than a jose theodore and the next your saying he is going to get big money in FA?
Make up your mind on where Schneider ranks. And i bet that where ever he is traded he signs for 2 years minimum if not 3 years as there is security for a player that has only made roughly 2 million in his career so far.
One min your saying Schneider is no better than a jose theodore and the next your saying he is going to get big money in FA?
Make up your mind on where Schneider ranks. And i bet that where ever he is traded he signs for 2 years minimum if not 3 years as there is security for a player that has only made roughly 2 million in his career so far.
Good point, people often misunderstand me about this.
I dont really contest Schneider skill, the big disagreement is about his trade value. Skill doesn't equate trade value, its only a part of the equation to find it.
While many Vancouver fans on this forum doesn't go really farther than watching Schneider and listen to rumor to find out his trade value.
I prefer to consider many factors, evaluate all goalies around the league, consider the market, supply, demand, trend, contract, age, status, odds.
Yzerman comes from the philosophy of using 1A/1B goalie system unless a #1 comes through the pipeline(Howard). Doubt he pays a fortune for a goalie who looks good but is ultimately unproven and really untethered from the franchise.
Good point, people often misunderstand me about this.
I dont really contest Schneider skill, the big disagreement is about his trade value. Skill doesn't equate trade value, its only a part of the equation to find it.
While many Vancouver fans on this forum doesn't go really farther than watching Schneider and listen to rumor to find out his trade value.
I prefer to consider many factors, evaluate all goalies around the league, consider the market, supply, demand, trend, contract, age, status, odds.
Actually you don't consider any factors other then your own dislike for a particular player/fanbase and spend your time trolling any thread with mention of said player and cutting down their value based on very skewed personal opinion.
Vancouver wants (at least I do) a young Dman and Tampa is not going to trade Hedman, seems like it would have to be an overpayment from Tampa or bring in a 3rd team so Vancouver can get their young Dman.
