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04-11-2012, 02:30 AM
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I forgot how...special some Edmonton fans are. There are good ones...but there are some very, very special ones as well.

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So, ya, my roster right now is:

Zach Parise - Mikko Koivu - Bobby Ryan
Dany Heatley - Mikael Granlund - Pierre-Marc Bouchard
Guillaume Latendresse - Kyle Brodziak - Matt Cullen
Nick Palmieri - Darroll Powe - Nick Johnson
Matt Kassian

Tom Gilbert - Jonas Brodin
Marco Scandella - Luke Schenn
Justin Falk - Jared Spurgeon
Nate Prosser

Josh Harding
Matt Hackett

I also may, or may not, have signed Parise to a max contract to get him to Minnesota. It's just pretend money, right?

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04-13-2012, 01:43 PM
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So, ya, my roster right now is:

Zach Parise - Mikko Koivu - Bobby Ryan
Dany Heatley - Mikael Granlund - Pierre-Marc Bouchard
Guillaume Latendresse - Kyle Brodziak - Matt Cullen
Nick Palmieri - Darroll Powe - Nick Johnson
Matt Kassian

Tom Gilbert - Jonas Brodin
Marco Scandella - Luke Schenn
Justin Falk - Jared Spurgeon
Nate Prosser

Josh Harding
Matt Hackett

I also may, or may not, have signed Parise to a max contract to get him to Minnesota. It's just pretend money, right?
That roster is pure fantasy. No way is Granlund signing.

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04-13-2012, 01:59 PM
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No Jagr?

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04-13-2012, 02:02 PM
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No Jagr?
I haz no monies.

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So, ya, my roster right now is:

Zach Parise - Mikko Koivu - Bobby Ryan
Dany Heatley - Mikael Granlund - Pierre-Marc Bouchard
Guillaume Latendresse - Kyle Brodziak - Matt Cullen
Nick Palmieri - Darroll Powe - Nick Johnson
Matt Kassian

Tom Gilbert - Jonas Brodin
Marco Scandella - Luke Schenn
Justin Falk - Jared Spurgeon
Nate Prosser

Josh Harding
Matt Hackett

I also may, or may not, have signed Parise to a max contract to get him to Minnesota. It's just pretend money, right?
Shouldnt video game talk be in the video game thread?


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04-13-2012, 02:06 PM
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That lineup is sick...and besides Granlund doesn't include any of our top prospects yet. Pretty cool.

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04-13-2012, 02:07 PM
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Shouldnt video game talk be in the video game thread?

This isn't video game talk and;

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That lineup is sick...and besides Granlund doesn't include any of our top prospects yet. Pretty cool.
And I managed not to trade any yet...

I did trade the 7th but received the 26th back (took Frk). All part of the Bobby Ryan trade.

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So if Mauer's the Baby Jesus and Favre was the Baby Cheesus, what would Parise be?

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04-17-2012, 04:03 AM
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Since we 'need' an offensive defenseman so badly right now, who do you think we could trade?

Brodin is out definitely but:

Granlund? He could fetch a player like Mike Green.

Zach Phillips? Might get us a Thomas Hickey or another good prospect.

Charlie Coyle? Jason Zucker? Brett Bulmer? Johan Larsson? Are we willing to give up any of these guys? Mario Lucia?

Most on our team are good facilitators but not good finishers. And the finishers we have are either out of their prime (Heatley) or inconsistent as hell (Brodziak, Cullen, Setoguchi, Clutterbuck).

I would throw Setoguchi and Clutterbuck on the players we could move.

IF we could get rid of one of the guys listed...and get a top moving puck defenseman AND pick up a player like Forsberg in the draft, we maybe able to kill two birds with one stone.

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04-17-2012, 08:19 AM
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Granlund? He could fetch a player like Mike Green.
No thanks. Have you seen his numbers the past 2 years? No thank you. Not to mention hurt for half the games in the 2 years. I don't want to trade a top prospect for a missing defender that is a defensive liability.

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04-17-2012, 09:56 AM
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I think Fletcher is overly conservative with his prospects since the Leddy trade, so I don't see him moving any of the big guns, even if they could bring back a star offensive defenseman.

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I think you guys may be holding our prospects on some kind of pedestal. A prospect that may or may not be good for a star D would be amazing. I don't really know how we would get a star D for any of our prospects anyway. Seto would be the only piece on the active roster paired with a prospect that has close to value needed for a great D man. That is of course if we are just trying to give up a prospect and a roster player for a D man. We could obviously just keep adding on people like Clutterbuck who I think has some decent value and is sort of expendable with the influx of yougins coming.

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04-17-2012, 10:09 AM
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None of our prospects can come close to returning the value that we would lose by giving up any of our prospects. The best we can hope for is a lateral move. We're not in a position to sell future assets for present day help.

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I realize that, I'm just saying Fletcher will probably never trade a big name prospect again. He's gunshy.

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I realize that, I'm just saying Fletcher will probably never trade a big name prospect again. He's gunshy.
And perhaps that's for the best. Other than as a "add a final piece for a cup run" type trade, have there really been any good trades that involved a quality prospect? It seems that someone loses big time on every one of those trades. Lupul + Gardiner for Beaucheman? Vorachek + 8th overall (Couturier) for Carter? I guess Schenn + Simmonds for Richards is looking decent (that was what they traded right?).

Sure the "Colborne + 1st round pick for Kaberle" is fine, but that was a final piece for cup run deal. Seto + Coyle + 1st for Burns is looking okay, but might be classified with the Colborne deal. Has there been a good deal out there for a team to build through trading away a prospect, rather than trying to put finishing touches on a team?

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04-17-2012, 10:43 AM
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It depends on who's available at what price. There's been trades that have worked the other way too. But yeah, typically it's a last piece deal.

Fletcher's a smart guy...he realizes he'll get endless criticism for trading Leddy for Barker, but nobody can possibly criticize no movement.

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There aren't many guys I would target for a trade in the off-season. J.Staal maybe (probably take Coyle+), M.Green if he's cheap (Caps seems semi-sick of him), and maybe a large contract if we strike out at free agency.

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So this guy over on the prospects page is trying to say Lats is a marginal 3rd line winger. Also had a little chuckle about his quip about Price/Pouloit

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Draft picks by Montreal since 2003 that have played in the NHL:

*some Montreal draft picks and his opinions on them*

Price - Honestly, they're lucky Minnesota took Benoit Pouloit because I can guarantee they had him ahead of Price on their list. They avoided some disaster and the pick obviously worked out.
Latendresse - 3rd line winger

*a bunch of other Montreal draft picks and his opinions on them*

IMO, a team that drafts well is a team that drafts players that contribute to the success of their team. Montreal may have a ton of guys who played NHL games, but the majority played all their games with different teams or contributed next to nothing in short stints in the NHL.
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I had to laugh at what you were saying about all of the players up until I saw what you said about Lats. You're not only biased against Montreal, but you're also ignorant of most of the league. Good job.
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His career high is 40 points... He had 1 good string of games where he managed to play big minutes and he produced. That's like calling Matt Stajan a top 6 forward because he put up 55 points one season. I suppose you also consider Jonathan Cheechoo an elite goal scoring machine?
This guy. Also shows how underrated Latendresse is.

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So this guy over on the prospects page is trying to say Lats is a marginal 3rd line winger. Also had a little chuckle about his quip about Price/Pouloit



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This guy. Also shows how underrated Latendresse is.
Yeah I noticed that myself. I gave him a reply I'm sure he'll laugh at.

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he's wrong about Latendresses skill level but his skepticism isn't without merit.

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Mikko Koivu was just interviewed in sports news. It was regarding the WC, he will meet the team today in a training camp. He told that "it's always nice to play for a winning team" and "[Bratislava] was a helpful experience for me, and we'll aim to do the same this spring".

His Finnish appeared a bit rusty to me, actually. Or well, it was near perfect but he made a couple of strange spelling mistakes. Might be just me being a grammar WW2-era far-right German though.

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Mikko Koivu was just interviewed in sports news. It was regarding the WC, he will meet the team today in a training camp. He told that "it's always nice to play for a winning team" and "[Bratislava] was a helpful experience for me, and we'll aim to do the same this spring".

His Finnish appeared a bit rusty to me, actually. Or well, it was near perfect but he made a couple of strange spelling mistakes. Might be just me being a grammar WW2-era far-right German though.
Well the deadliest sniper ever was a Fin in WW2. Killed over 200 Russians if I remember correctly.

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Well the deadliest sniper ever was a Fin in WW2. Killed over 200 Russians if I remember correctly.
Simo Häyhä:

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During the Winter War (1939–1940), between Finland and the Soviet Union, he began his duty as a sniper and fought for the Finnish Army against the Red Army. In temperatures between −40 and −20 degrees Celsius, dressed completely in white camouflage, Häyhä was credited with 505 confirmed kills of Soviet soldiers.[2][3] A daily account of the kills at Kollaa was conducted for the Finnish snipers. Besides his rifle kills, Häyhä was also credited with over 200 kills with a Suomi KP/-31 submachine gun.[3] Remarkably, all of Häyhä's kills were accomplished in fewer than 100 days–an average of 7 kills per day–at a time of year with very short hours of daylight.[5][6][7]
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