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03-07-2012, 12:53 AM
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I know what the issue is....just too dang cranky to care.

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03-07-2012, 01:12 AM
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Since when do you play for the Wild?
Good question >.>

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03-07-2012, 03:54 AM
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Reading Russo's post game blog, its getting very apparent that he hates this team about as much as we do.

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03-07-2012, 08:26 AM
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Reading Russo's post game blog, its getting very apparent that he hates this team about as much as we do.
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First thing Mick Kern has EVER said that I disagreed with: "Nobody ever gives you 2 pts in this league." I know one
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03-07-2012, 09:55 AM
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I'm sorry, but crap happens. We've had missing 3 out of our 5 top-6 forwards the entire season, with no depth to fill in the holes. We are done.

Just let the tank happen because we are going to get an elite forward, who with Granlund and Coyle, will make a kick ass 1st line very soon, or a stud Dman who will fit perfectly with our young blueline.

I'm happy about our future. Much better than missing the playoffs by a few points and drafting around around 13.

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03-07-2012, 10:27 AM
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I'm just glad they've committed to a proper tank this year at least. Get a top 5 pick in return instead of watching frustrating hockey and get a 10-12 pick.

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03-07-2012, 11:12 AM
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At what point in time are we allowed to criticize Yeo?

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03-07-2012, 11:22 AM
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So...for next year, they desperately need to get some skill guys who can skate. There's one skill guy in the lineup right now (Heatley) and he can't skate. Literally everyone else is a grinder with varying skating abilities. Watching real hockey teams, they have guys who can actually hold on to the puck, while skating, both coming across the blue line and deeper in the zone.

I also see the defense doing an absolutely horrible job with their gaps and coverage. And forwards not coming back to stop/slow the rush. Lots and lots of odd man rushes. Pretty much not running any kind of organized system right now defensively.

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03-07-2012, 11:24 AM
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At what point in time are we allowed to criticize Yeo?
He should be open for any kind of criticism....I don't care how bad your team looks you should never lose 6-0 and 7-1 in the same week.

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03-07-2012, 11:28 AM
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He should be open for any kind of criticism....I don't care how bad your team looks you should never lose 6-0 and 7-1 in the same week.
Agree the hate will start to flow if we looking anything like this year in the start of next.

I've missed two games this year. But I'm done. Not watching anymore of this team.

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03-07-2012, 11:35 AM
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I honestly think if they miss the playoffs next year both Yeo and Fletch need to go and be replaced by some people with NHL experience.

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03-07-2012, 11:43 AM
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Elliot Friedman mentioned that it's possible each team could have a 1-person buyout in the next CBA. If that's the case, wonder if they could dump Butch and then offer Parise $8m over 5-7 years.

Parise - Koivu - Setoguchi
Heatley - Granlund - Lats
Cullen - Brodziak - Clutterbuck
Veilleux - Powe - Johnson

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03-07-2012, 11:56 AM
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Elliot Friedman mentioned that it's possible each team could have a 1-person buyout in the next CBA. If that's the case, wonder if they could dump Butch and then offer Parise $8m over 5-7 years.

Parise - Koivu - Setoguchi
Heatley - Granlund - Lats
Cullen - Brodziak - Clutterbuck
Veilleux - Powe - Johnson
The better question is why would Parise (or anyone else with other options) sign here?

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At what point in time are we allowed to criticize Yeo?
At what time can we criticize Koivu? Fletcher?

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The better question is why would Parise (or anyone else with other options) sign here?
$$$$$

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At what time can we criticize Koivu? Fletcher?
I'd criticize both. Koivu hasn't lived up to his paycheck and can't stay healthy. Fletcher so far has a terrible eye for NHL talent and is one more crap season away from two bad coaching hires.

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03-07-2012, 12:09 PM
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St. Louis, Nashville, Detroit, Dallas and Ottawa can all give them money too. The only difference is their teams actually succeed.

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I'd criticize both. Koivu hasn't lived up to his paycheck and can't stay healthy. Fletcher so far has a terrible eye for NHL talent and is one more crap season away from two bad coaching hires.
As well Koivu doesn't seem to be stepping up with his leadership EVEN if he's injured.

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03-07-2012, 12:12 PM
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At what point in time are we allowed to criticize Yeo?
As soon as you come up with a valid criticism.

/hint: the criticisms that have come up thus far have been ridiculously distant from anything even resembling valid

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03-07-2012, 12:16 PM
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Those aren't valid?

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03-07-2012, 12:30 PM
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Like I said on another thread:

It's probably not the right page to talk about this issue but the Wild have little to no talent on the current playing roster. Poor MNwild fans have to watch Heatley with Brodz and Johnson on a line.

Having Koivu out kills us at the center position. All we have right now is a bunch of good 3rd and 4th line players trying to play 1st and 2nd line positions.

Don't get me wrong, I like Johnson and Brodz. I like Cullen and Powe. I like a lot of our players that we have, but only if they're playing on the correct line. We don't have the skill we need on our top 2 lines when Bouchard, Lats, and Koivu are missing. Our depth will be much better next with some youth coming in but this year we don't have it.

If we can get Parise to come in that would be great. It's a long shot with teams like the Red Wings having cap space too. They get who they want generally.

Landing Parise would help our talent on the top 2 lines for next year. Leaving us with options for guys like Cullen and Brodz to be big time players on the 3rd and 4th lines, with the possibility of stepping in on the 1st or 2nd line if injuries come up.

This year is over and I'm just hoping the wild can battle through it. I want to see effort and some heart. Hate to see teams roll over, so hopefully they can fight through it the rest of the year and be ready come next season!


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03-07-2012, 12:36 PM
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Fletcher has done a fine job building the Wild organization. Yeah, there are Barker, Christensen, and Kobasew moments, but just think about how just terrible the Wild were when Fletcher was hired.

1. Prospect pool was completely empty. Pouliot, Sheppard, Gillies, and Cuma were the TOP prospects. Now we have a top-5 prospect pool in the league.

2. Wild forwards were terrible. Koivu. Bouchard. And.......... Yeah, that's right. It was those two, and that's it. I guess Clutterbuck was starting to enter the picture. Rolston and Demo (RIP) were gone. Gaborik was already out the door. Since then, Fletcher added Havlat/Heatley, Setoguchi, Brodziak, Latendresse, and Cullen.


3. The defense would probably be the main black-mark. Johnsson, Schultz, and Burns, plus some good prospects could have set the blueline for a while, but where would #1 and #2 be right now?

4. Goalies - Backstrom's contract was signed right before Fletcher got here, so he was stuck with it. But he's convinced Harding to stick around, plus drafted a lot of good goalies.

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03-07-2012, 12:44 PM
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03-07-2012, 12:45 PM
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6-0
7-1
Epic collapse since mid-December

Those aren't valid?
It's snowing outside, therefore the grocery store checkout lady should be fired.

That's the exact same argument composition.


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At what time can we criticize Fletcher?
I'll actually criticize him for one of the biggest head scratchers I've seen a GM do...

He gutted the locker room at the Trade Deadline.

Basically went in there and ripped the foundation out from under them and didn't give them anything to hold on to.

Sorry, but you get rid of Zidlicky and Zanon, team is fine. Get rid of Schultz? I'm still confused about that...

Real world example; If your boss fires your best co-worker friend who also did a **** ton of work for the company... Where does your morale go? Toilet.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if several "key" players ask for a trade this off season.

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Trading Schultz at the deadline was pretty stupid, I'll have to admit.

I mean, I'm glad that it's proving that I was correct on Schultz and his effectiveness on the team, but not glad that it's dragged the team down this much. That should have been a draft day trade.

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