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Edmonton cannot afford to trade one of the top 2 picks. We have a huge hole at #2 LW and Gagner is still a question mark as a #2 C. We've got a lot of young defensemen in the system and you have to figure 1 or 2 of them will turn out (Teubert, Plane, Marincin, Musil, Klefbom, Gernat, etc)
we are in the 4th year now, how many more you think? no franchise players in the ahl, kessel might walk in 2 years.
we still have to make the playoffs.
You are where you are because Burke has lacked patience. Kessel might walk in 2 years? You could have had Seguin and Hamilton on ELCs. Now you're looking to make a similar mistake.
If you want to try to trade up to get a better player, fine, but to trade Gardiner would be beyond foolish.
Yaks, Grigs, and Gally all have the talent to be in the N next year .. if not they make it the following year
it wont take 4 years for Galchenyuk to make it .. thats absurd to even think that
Look at Skinner ... went 7th overall ... has it took him 4 years?
I can assure you Gally will not be playing in the NHL. ACL reconstructive surgery is quite serious. You dont just pop back up after missing an entire sophmore junior season and play in the NHL.
I can assure you Gally will not be playing in the NHL. ACL reconstructive surgery is quite serious. You dont just pop back up after missing an entire sophmore junior season and play in the NHL.
he's coming back very soon ...
and yes, maybe in a year or 2 .. not 4 years ....
if it wasnt for the injury then he would be ready to go
With the way things are going Tampa, Buffalo,Carolina and the Islanders are going to pass the Leafs this season. That would put the Leafs in the 4 hole. Why would we trade Jake Gardiner, who is going to be a Franchise "D" in my opinion, to move up 2 spots. Grigorenko, Galchenyuk, Faksa, and Gaunce are all going to be Centers going in the top ten. All look very promising. Most recently Faksa and Gaunce going up the rankings and Grigorenko sliding down by some. So why do the Leafs do this? Edmonton would be crazy not to do this deal. The Leafs hang the phone up.
Yes, no one has called him one, but holy overrating batman. 14th overall pick+ Gardiner doesn't get you the first overall.
Believe what you will. Hes the only player outside of kessel and lupul that have stood out this season. The kid is fantastic. Watching him skate is like listening to Mozart.
If I'm Edmonton and I have the first pick, there's no way I'm moving it for Gardiner and a 1st. Wouldn't be near enough.
say leafs pick 4th-6th .. how would you not do that?
getting Gardiner + Dumba/Murray would work WONDERS for Edmonton ... they do not need Yakupov or Grigorenko, as much as its nice to have a stacked forward core, some Dmen are needed ... thats 2 potential top pairing dmen ... and Gardiner has already been good enough to play top pairing
say leafs pick 4th-6th .. how would you not do that?
getting Gardiner + Dumba/Murray would work WONDERS for Edmonton ... they do not need Yakupov or Grigorenko, as much as its nice to have a stacked forward core, some Dmen are needed ... thats 2 potential top pairing dmen ... and Gardiner has already been good enough to play top pairing
but once again, leafs say no
Why would I? I'd never make that trade with Hall, Eberle or Nugent-Hopkins in it, so I don't see any reason to do it with Yakupov.
Why pass on a very likely elite NHLer, possible franchise player, for less than it's worth?
Just because the Oilers need NHL defensemen doesn't mean the first overall pick would be worth any less if they had it.
Why would I? I'd never make that trade with Hall, Eberle or Nugent-Hopkins in it, so I don't see any reason to do it with Yakupov.
Why pass on a very likely elite NHLer, possible franchise player, for less than it's worth?
Just because the Oilers need NHL defensemen doesn't mean the first overall pick would be worth any less if they had it.
I bet you the oilers would trade the 1st overall for the 4th + gardiner. You'd be stupid to not do that as you'd get gardiner who is nhl ready and then you'll likely get Dumba/Murray. So just like that you've improved your D for the future and the present. You'd basically change the makeshift of your team dramatically. Adding yakupov to play on the second line and then having to deal with having no defensemen to defend is stupid. Plus if everything goes accordingly you'd be dealing with in the future of having to trade one of those forwards since if they all continue scoring like they are now then they'll be asking for 6m cap hits each. So you have 18-20mil tied to the first line. Then you'll have 6m(Yakupov) + 4m(gagner) + w/e on the second line. Then you ****** D at the back and a horrible bottom 6.
Basically you won't have enough money for some real defence in the near future.
I bet you the oilers would trade the 1st overall for the 4th + gardiner..
I'd be stunned if they considered it. You don't think they were offered similar at the last draft by teams trying to convince them that they "need" a defenseman?
If they decided they absolutely had to trade it to get help on the blue line now, why wouldn't they trade it for a full dollar instead of three or four quarters? Why not try to land the best defenseman possible?
