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03-15-2012, 12:49 PM
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McGowan with a clean 2nd inning. Pop up + strikeout + groundout in the inning.

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we got him becuase he was sucking with plummeting market value
but if he does well he'll want a big raise anyway - adios

we got him as a stop gap

gose will replace him when he's ready

and escobar moves to 2nd when hech is ready
then it's adios kelly johnson
"Colby Rasmus" and "stop gap" shouldn't be used in the same sentence. The guy was named the #3 prospect in 2009 for a reason.

Other guys in that prospect ranking include

Matt Wieters (#1)
David Price (#2)
Tommy Hanson (#4)
Jason Heyward (#5)
Travis Snider (#6) <-- Where's Thames?

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03-15-2012, 12:52 PM
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How does a Spring Training record in baseball correlate to the regular season record? Preseason doesn't mean anything in hockey. Is it the same in baseball? Because it appears that for the most part it's the Jays starters playing in the games...
It doesn't mean anything and Jays are not using their starters out of the ordinary.

Jays depth is noticeable though with guys like Snider, Cooper, Sierra, Gose, D'Arnaud, McDade, Hech and pitchers like McGuire, Hutchison, Drabek, Jenkins etc...

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So what will the bench look like this year?

Something like

Francisco
Davis
Mathis
Vizquel
McCoy? Thames/Snider? Cooper?

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03-15-2012, 12:53 PM
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I think Johnson will bat second to kick off the season.

Top 5 in the batting order seem to be set in stone to me. Johnson has had some good OBP seasons and provides more speed on the basepaths than Thames.
Agree on all accounts. Farrel has already come out and said that he has Johnson penciled in hitting 2nd, so I'm pretty sure it's a guarantee as of right now.

He's not going to blow the doors down and wow you but he'll hit for a respectable average, take a walk (absurd concept I know), good defense and will probably steal 15+ bags. He's been having a good ST aswell. Any power we get from him will be a bonus in my books.

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03-15-2012, 12:56 PM
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So what will the bench look like this year?

Something like

Francisco
Davis
Mathis
Vizquel
McCoy? Thames/Snider? Cooper?
Pretty close.

Davis and Francisco are locks, as is Mathis. It really comes down to which part-time infielder wins the job in spring training. McCoy/Vizquel/Valbuena.

I'm waiting for Damon to run out of opportunities and start applying for bench/part-time jobs. At which point I say bu-bye Ben.

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Pretty close.

Davis and Francisco are locks, as is Mathis. It's really comes down to which part-time infielder wins the job in spring training. McCoy/Vizquel/Valbuena.

I'm waiting for Damon to run out of opportunities and start applying for bench/part-time jobs. At which point I say bu-bye Ben.
Yeah I wanted Johnny Damon since FA started

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Nice line for McGowan in his short start.

Snider has 12rbi in spring which is insane good in that short a time. He and Thames are really battling for that last spot. .308 and .304 BA so far in spring respectively.

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http://espn.go.com/mlb/spring2012/st...aday-says-fine

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Roy Halladay says he's not injured, and the two-time Cy Young Award winner criticized a report suggesting something may be wrong with him because he's struggled in spring training.

Halladay got rocked for five runs and seven hits before getting yanked in the third inning of Philadelphia's loss to Minnesota on Wednesday. A report later surfaced quoting two unidentified scouts expressing concern that Halladay's velocity is down and his sharpness is off.

"Poor reporting on the extreme end of poor reporting," Halladay said Thursday. "It couldn't be further from the truth."

Halladay, an eight-time All-Star, has a 10.56 ERA in three spring starts. He acknowledges his velocity is down, but isn't worried because it's still early.

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Snider with a 2 run double.

EDIT: on a side note, Pirates put up a 10 spot on Twins in the 1st inning. That's ridiculous.
Just catching up on the days posts. That is both hilarious and brutal all at the same time.

On a side note good inning for Drabek

It's now 10 4


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we got him becuase he was sucking with plummeting market value
but if he does well he'll want a big raise anyway - adios

we got him as a stop gap

gose will replace him when he's ready

and escobar moves to 2nd when hech is ready
then it's adios kelly johnson
They got Rasmus on the cheap because he was struggling. They acquired him in the hopes he could reach his potential here. They don't plan on just moving him if he wants more money because he's playing well. Johnson isn't likely around forever but they aren't gonna put guys at the bottom of the order if it will affect the team this year because they may not be here in the future. Do you like Escobar? Because we got him on the same basis as we did with Rasmus. Couldn't you just have easily said the same thing about him that he was simply a stop gap until Hech was ready?

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03-15-2012, 01:42 PM
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Got 95 and 96 on McGowan's last two fastballs that inning, best bolts yet

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Drabek looks very good, both delivery and location

Good to see. Drabek with two clean innings so far with a strikeout.

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I do wonder if this could be the year Phillies kinda just fall right off. Older players get injured/under perform and they miss the playoffs.

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thames just dropped a pop fly

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I do wonder if this could be the year Phillies kinda just fall right off. Older players get injured/under perform and they miss the playoffs.
Hamels would look in our rotation

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Got 95 and 96 on McGowan's last two fastballs that inning, best bolts yet

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Drabek looks very good, both delivery and location

Good to see. Drabek with two clean innings so far with a strikeout.
Wow on Dustin. God my fingers are crossed for him this year.

D'Arnaud just threw out base stealer at 2nd on a double steal.

Following the gameday today. Drabek seems to have had a really good outing

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McCoy makes an error and then Thames drops a pop-up.

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Thames, on dead run, drops Sanchez pop-up. Should have been Valbo's, but he went to 2B to cover on hit-and-run. #bluejays #astros #jays

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thames just dropped a pop fly
Are you watching the game somewhere Dred, or did it read as an error on gameday?

Edit: NVM, just saw NN's twitter post.

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Got 95 and 96 on McGowan's last two fastballs that inning, best bolts yet

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Drabek looks very good, both delivery and location

Good to see. Drabek with two clean innings so far with a strikeout.


So pumped to see McGowan throw that hard, and that well to boot. Alot of strikes.

Good for Drabek. Let's hope he treats it as a stepping stone. Small victories.

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Are you watching the game somewhere Dred, or did it read as an error on gameday?

Edit: NVM, just saw NN's twitter post.
Listening to gameday audio. Audio is way ahead of gameday which is always the case.

Play by play. I don't have twitter.

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I also believe Drabek has only thrown 3 balls in the 3 innings he's pitched. Gameday is a little messed up right now.

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Drabek goes 3 innings, 1 hit (but not really a hit I guess), unearned run, 0 walks, 1 strikeout. He induced 6 groundballs and just 1 flyout so it seems like he pitched well.

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I also believe Drabek has only thrown 3 balls in the 3 innings he's pitched. Gameday is a little messed up right now.
Don't look at gameday pitch by pitch. It does not keep track of it. A strikeout is always shown as 3 pitch strikeout, walks are 4 balls, outs are shown as only 1 strike. It does not keep track of every pitch thrown.

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Drabek goes 3 innings, 1 hit (but not really a hit I guess), unearned run, 0 walks, 1 strikeout. He induced 6 groundballs and just 1 flyout so it seems like he pitched well.
Yeah they gave a hit to the guy who popped up to Thames. Not really a hit IMO

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Stikeouts for Snider still worrying me despite production. It's something that could catch up to him when the quality of pitches increases.

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