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03-08-2012, 01:29 PM
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Parise JUST hit his prime years.
B's roster are just about to hit their prime years.

Devils current core are mid 30's.
Devils youth (future core) are not of legal drinking age.

The Devils being his current & only team obviosly have the best shot at resigning him, just for the fact that he may not want to uproot his family. BUT dont say the NJ core is at a better stage (age & talent wise) than the Bruins.

"future devils goalies"?? Who are they? Ever hear of Tuukka Rask?
Lmfao. You can argue all you want with the Devil fans, but they won't ever admit defeat. You're always automatically wrong to them for even presenting the possibility that he could leave, as evidenced by some of the posts in this thread. You could present a flawless argument to them, and they'd find ways to twist words to present something that in their minds counters what you're saying, but it really doesn't.

I honestly don't even care where he signs anymore, just as long as its not with the Devils so I can hear the millions upon millions of excuses as to why he left and posts that will read "well if circumstances didn't dictate otherwise" or "if we had the money..." after hearing how their financial problems wouldn't affect them at all.

So many know it alls who really don't have a clue.

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One thing is for sure. He's definitely going to read this thread before making any decision.

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Not to be a homer or anything, i think Colorado would have to be on the top of his list. We have plenty of American players that he is Familiar with. 2 of them are from Minnesota ( EJ and Mueller). Theyre a young team that is on the rise and has a legitimate chance to contend for the cup in a few years. Last we have tons of cap space and could and will probably offer him more than other teams

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Lmfao. You can argue all you want with the Devil fans, but they won't ever admit defeat. You're always automatically wrong to them for even presenting the possibility that he could leave, as evidenced by some of the posts in this thread. You could present a flawless argument to them, and they'd find ways to twist words to present something that in their minds counters what you're saying, but it really doesn't.

I honestly don't even care where he signs anymore, just as long as its not with the Devils so I can hear the millions upon millions of excuses as to why he left and posts that will read "well if circumstances didn't dictate otherwise" or "if we had the money..." after hearing how their financial problems wouldn't affect them at all.

So many know it alls who really don't have a clue.
Don't lump me in with all Devil fans. I'm just pointing out that the Devils satisfy a good number of Zach's requirements (what he's said he wants)... and have a bright future.

Also I will say this so you know my stance in advance. The Devils WILL have the money to sign him. If Zach leaves, it will NOT be because of any ownership issues. It will be because he wanted out or got an offer he liked.

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03-08-2012, 01:36 PM
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Not to be a homer or anything, i think Colorado would have to be on the top of his list. We have plenty of American players that he is Familiar with. 2 of them are also from Minnesota ( EJ and Mueller). Theyre a young team that is on the raise and has a legitimate chance to contend for the cup in a few years. Last we have tons of cap space and could and will probably offer him more than other teams
Colorado is interesting. VERY young team with the lowest payroll in the league. If they have the $ to add, they could very well sign him, Suter, and really look like a solid club next season.

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03-08-2012, 01:44 PM
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Future Devils goalies are Keith Kinkaid, Scott Wedgewood, and Maxime Clermont

Not one place did I say that the Devils core was BETTER. I'm just pointing out that yeah, some guys are getting up there in age, the Devils also have a solid core of players coming right up behind them. In two years when the defense is Volchenkov, Greene, Tallinder, Larsson, Merrill, Gelinas/Urbom, it will be one of the better groups in the league. The Devils have three fantastic young centers with Zajac, Josefson, and Henrique. Kovalchuk has at least 7 more years before he's considered old... even then, look how Elias is playing now.. Kovy has that ability.

For my guess... the important things that Parise will look for is:

Area: NJ has some of the wealthiest suburbs in America with tons of wealthy families and celebs. Hoboken and downtown Jersey City are great city areas to hang out and live. Right across the river from NYC... an hour to the beach. NJ has everything someone would need.

Winning Tradition: Devils have it. Since 1995, there have been three cups, 9 division titles, 4 conference titles. The ONLY team that can boast that kind of success is the Detroit Red Wings.

Winning Potential: we talked about the roster and players...
Simple question: Considering the age & talent level of each teams core players, which team is more attractive to a 28yr old player, Boston or NJ?

NJ current core will take a big hit in the next few seasons when Elias Sykora & Zubrus decline or retire.

While their prospects look nice on paper, they're unproven. So essentially Parise will look at Kovalchuk, Henrique, Zajac & Clarkson as his core if he stays w/ NJ. And this is while attempting to figure out who will replace a declining Brodeur.

Boston has the goalie situation in control for the next decade +.

Boston's core of Lucic, Krejci, Horton, Seguin, Marchand, Bergeron are proven. & they've also proven they can win together. So Parise has the option to win now, w/ above mentioned B's players + Thomas, Chara, Seidenberg etc.. AND said core is young enough where they can potentially play together another decade +. AND you have prospects such as Dougie Hamilton, Knight, Spooner, Kokolachev who while unproven are just as promising as NJ's prospects.

Advantage Boston.

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03-08-2012, 01:52 PM
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The Devils current core are not "mid 30s." Core players over the gae of 30 are Elias, Brodeur, and who else, exactly? Sykora is a stopgap, Zubrus is supporting cast and who esle? Tallinder? Salvador? These guys are hardly the "core."

The core is, for the last damn time, Kovalchuk (28), Zajac (26), Greene (29), Volchenkov (30), Clarkson (27) and Parise, should he come back, (27). Hell, Larsson is basically a core player already and he's just 19. If I have to hear this "Devils core is old" trope one more time, I may lose my ******* mind.

Between Tim Thomas and Chara, I'd argue the Bruins actually have just as many "mid 30s" core players than the Devils now. I'm not saying the Devils are a better choice than Boston if he wants to win tomorrow, but signing in NJ is hardly packing it in and waiting for a ****ing rebuild.

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Larsson: 19
Josefson- 21
Tedenby-21
Merrill- 20
Urbom- 20
Gelinas (top scoring defenseman in the AHL): 20

Three goalies who are supposed to be the "future Devils goalies" are 19, 20, and 22... the Devils have the future covered as well.
Outside of Larsson, every team has a list of guys like that. I know this is hockey's "future" but until those guys have done something in the NHL, saying the Devils have the future "covered" is quite a leap.

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He's coming to the Avs. The team USA players Stastny, Mueller, EJ will all whisper sweet sweet lullabies to him and our GM will throw the lowest payroll team's bank at him!

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I agree he wants out of NJ. You can't really blame Parise to want to go somewhere else tbh.
Has he done or said anything that suggests this?

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The Devils current core are not "mid 30s." Core players over the gae of 30 are Elias, Brodeur, and who else, exactly? Sykora is a stopgap, Zubrus is supporting cast and who esle? Tallinder? Salvador? These guys are hardly the "core."

The core is, for the last damn time, Kovalchuk (28), Zajac (26), Greene (29), Volchenkov (30), Clarkson (27) and Parise, should he come back, (27). Hell, Larsson is basically a core player already and he's just 19. If I have to hear this "Devils core is old" trope one more time, I may lose my ******* mind.

Between Tim Thomas and Chara, I'd argue the Bruins actually have just as many "mid 30s" core players than the Devils now. I'm not saying the Devils are a better choice than Boston if he wants to win tomorrow, but signing in NJ is hardly packing it in and waiting for a ****ing rebuild.
Kovalchuk
Zajac
Henrique
Clarkson

vs

Lucic
Marchand
Krejci
Bergeron
Horton
Seguin

All im saying is one of those cores looks better than the other. Nobody is saying he's leaving NJ.

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Kovalchuk
Zajac
Henrique
Clarkson

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Lucic
Marchand
Krejci
Bergeron
Horton
Seguin

All im saying is one of those cores looks better than the other. Nobody is saying he's leaving NJ.
What about on defense, though? Pretty sure the Devils core defensive players are younger than the Bruins.

And while you may not be personally saying Parise is leaving, plenty of people in here are

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What about on defense, though? Pretty sure the Devils core defensive players are younger than the Bruins.

And while you may not be personally saying Parise is leaving, plenty of people in here are
Chara
Seidenberg
Boychuk
Ference

vs.

Volchenkov
Greene
Larsson


Rask

vs.

(insert future NJ goalie of the future here)

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What about on defense, though? Pretty sure the Devils core defensive players are younger than the Bruins.

And while you may not be personally saying Parise is leaving, plenty of people in here are
You mean he hasn't signed a life time contract in Toronto already?

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Chara
Seidenberg
Boychuk
Ference

vs.

Volchenkov
Greene
Larsson


Rask

vs.

(insert future NJ goalie of the future here)
Chara and Ference are about to turn 35 and 33 respectively, this month. If we're comparing 30 and under players here, they don't really count.


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You mean he hasn't signed a life time contract in Toronto already?

At only 11.5M a year! What a steal!

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Boston has the goalie situation in control for the next decade +.
Decade+? Do you know something about the next CBA raising the UFA eligibility age to 35?

Because from where I sit, Rask is an RFA this summer, and if he so desires he could become a UFA in 2014.

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Lmfao. You can argue all you want with the Devil fans, but they won't ever admit defeat. You're always automatically wrong to them for even presenting the possibility that he could leave, as evidenced by some of the posts in this thread. You could present a flawless argument to them, and they'd find ways to twist words to present something that in their minds counters what you're saying, but it really doesn't.

I honestly don't even care where he signs anymore, just as long as its not with the Devils so I can hear the millions upon millions of excuses as to why he left and posts that will read "well if circumstances didn't dictate otherwise" or "if we had the money..." after hearing how their financial problems wouldn't affect them at all.

So many know it alls who really don't have a clue.
You're right. We should all just know he's going to sign with the Rangers.

Go ahead and sign him in the offseason, so you can ruin yet another talented hockey player. You would have been better of trading for Nash - trades bypass the curse.

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The Devils? Theyre a totally different team this year with a more uptempo style which he's said he's wanted. He wants to win which he's said is his main desire. They can pay him, which he's not said but its clear he wants. Playing with Kovalchuk and Henrique has made him look so energized and quite literally excited playing this year. Theyve all been recruiting him to stay, he's the captain, I think unless he truly wants to go somewhere specific, he's a Devil.

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Yeah, really think he will re-sign with New Jersey. Would love to see him with Ottawa but unless something drastically changes he's re-signing with New Jersey.

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Colorado is interesting. VERY young team with the lowest payroll in the league. If they have the $ to add, they could very well sign him, Suter, and really look like a solid club next season.
If you ask me Avs are going to sign both or neither of the two.

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must suck to be the Rangers and have a legit chance at one of both Rick Nash and Zack Parise.
it will suck even more when we don't get either player lol

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While I think that some of the money problem that have hovered over and around the Devils all season are somewhat overblown, I do think that where there is smoke there is fire and the Rangers are surely going to offer him a contract that will pay him in the same manner that they are paying Richards.

The Devils have Kovy making in real cash 10+ million a season for what? the next 6 years before the actual cash payments start lower annually again?

Can the Devils really afford to pay, in real cash, 20 million a year to just 2 players for then ext 3 years?

Lou has hsi work cut out for him, but what I think is helping Lou in this process is that teh Devils are winning. They sit 4 points behind the REDHOT Penguins.

The opportunity to win argument doesn't really favor the Rangers as much as some would like to argue.

The Devils are playing as good hockey right now as any team in the league and once the Devils can shed a few contracts and get Zajac back, they can be as much a contender next season and beyond as the Rangers or any other team in the Eastern Conference.

Would I like for the Rangers to sign him? Absolutely.

Do I expect it? Absolutely not.


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Maybe Montreal? Only dreaming here!

Get rid of Gomez's contract and give the money to Parise..

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Sorry...didn't feel like reading the whole thread, but how does the Devils financial situation play into his re-signing (if at all)?

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If you want proof that he's going to resign with the Devs watch the end of this video where he says he will break scott stevens point record next year

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYUf_...4&feature=plcp

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