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03-02-2012, 04:35 PM
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Potential HOFers from the drafts of the 1990s

I thought it would be interesting to see wich players people would think are HoFers from 1990-1999 entry drafts. Here is my list of defintely, maybe, outside shot guys

1990
Jaromir Jagr - Lock
Martin Brodeur - Lock

Keith Tkachuk - Yes

Peter Bondra - Maybe, hardest to figure out

Doug Weight - Outside Shot to Long Shot
SergeI Zubov- Outisde Shot to Long Shot

1991
Scott Neidermeyer- Yes
Peter Forsberg - Maybe, tough to say but he was well above a PPG player
Chris Osgood - Maybe
Eric Lindros - Outside Shot

1992
Sergei Gonchar - Maybe/Outside Shot

1993
Chris Pronger - Yes

1994
Daniel Alfredsson - Outside Shot

1995
Jarome Iginla- Yes

1996
Zdeno Chara - Yes

1997
Joe Thornton - Yes
Roberto Luongo - Maybe
Marian Hossa - Maybe

1998
Vincent Lecavlier - Outside Shot
Brad Richards - Outside Shot
Pavel Datsyuk - Maybe good shot

1999
Henrik Sedin - Maybe
Daniel Sedin - Maybe
Ryan Miller - Outside shot

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The other day I was wondering about Lecavalier getting into the HHOF.

If he were to stay relatively healthy for the remainder of his contract he is likely to eclipse the 500 goal mark. Add in his Rocket Richard and Cup and I think he has a chance.

Would not be shocked if he didn't though, so I'd put him at "Maybe"

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I know hes slightly overrated on these boards but Forsberg has got to be a lock.

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Forsberg is a lock dont kid yourself

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Forsberg's career was shortened by injuries but when he was in his prime he was nigh untouchable, the best player in the game if it wasn't for generational talents like Jagr and Lemieux. I think he's more of a lock than most guys on that list.

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Osgood is a lock, even if he wasn't that good his stats and trophies are undeniably Hall of Fame worthy.
Pronger is a lock
Chara is a lock
Forsberg will most likely get in, not as a first ballot IMO.
Alfredsson/Iginla will both most likely get in.

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Sedins will get in, every Art Ross/Hart winner have been put in the hOF

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IMO Forsberg is an absolute LOCK...dude has 2 Olympic Golds, 2 WC Gold, 2 Stanley Cups, Hart, Calder, Art Ross, 3x 1st-team all-star, top 10 career PPG, 4th highest career APG. Sure his career was cut short by injury, but honestly there wasn't much else he could've accomplished to add to his resume other than racking up more points...

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a few amendments:

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1990
Jaromir Jagr - Lock
Martin Brodeur - Lock
Keith Tkachuk - maybe
Peter Bondra - outside shot
Doug Weight - no chance
SergeI Zubov- low maybe

1991
Scott Neidermeyer- Yes
Peter Forsberg - yes
Chris Osgood - low maybe
Eric Lindros - high maybe

1992
Sergei Gonchar - low maybe
nikolai khabibulin - outside shot

1993
Chris Pronger - Yes

1994
paul kariya - maybe
Daniel Alfredsson - maybe
tim thomas - yes

1995
Jarome Iginla- Yes
j.s. giguere - low maybe
patrik elias - low maybe
miikka kiprusoff - outside shot

1996
Zdeno Chara - Yes

1997
Joe Thornton - Yes
Roberto Luongo - projects to be a high maybe
Marian Hossa - projects to be a high maybe

1998
Vincent Lecavlier - Outside Shot
Brad Richards - Outside Shot
Pavel Datsyuk - projects to be a yes

1999
Henrik Sedin - maybe, projects to be a yes
Daniel Sedin - maybe, projects to be a yes
Ryan Miller - Outside shot
henrik zetterberg - projects to be a maybe, perhaps even a high maybe

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IMO Forsberg is an absolute LOCK...dude has 2 Olympic Golds, 2 WC Gold, 2 Stanley Cups, Hart, Calder, Art Ross, 3x 1st-team all-star, top 10 career PPG, 4th highest career APG. Sure his career was cut short by injury, but honestly there wasn't much else he could've accomplished to add to his resume other than racking up more points...
true Forsberg accomplished alot in less then 1000 games.

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Keith Tkachuk - Yes
Peter Forsberg - Maybe, tough to say but he was well above a PPG player
Do you even watch Hockey?

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Sedins will get in, every Art Ross/Hart winner have been put in the hOF
I believe every Art Ross winner is in there that is eligible. After that in general Iginla, Forsberg and St. Louis are considered anywhere from good bets to locks. Thornton is getting close too. That leaves Crosby, Ovechkin, Malkin, both Sedins. The way their pace is going it is hard to imagine any of them being omitted. Oh, and Jagr is the other Art Ross winner not eligible. But that's a lock.

As for Hart winners don't be too sure. Rollins and Anderson aren't in. Lindros will have a ton of trouble getting in. Theodore has no chance. Perry has a lot to do to get in there as well. So the Hart is not 100%.

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Osgood is a lock, even if he wasn't that good his stats and trophies are undeniably Hall of Fame worthy.
Look, if better goalies like Vernon, Barrasso, Vachon are waiting then so will Osgood. All three of them are winners as well and especially the first two were more important than Osgood ever was to the Cup. Vachon won three Cups, but did more damage as a King. Osgood should buy a ticket.

1990
Jaromir Jagr - Lock
Martin Brodeur - Lock

Keith Tkachuk - No chance
Peter Bondra - 500 goals...........and about 11 assists. No chance
Doug Weight - No chance
SergeI Zubov- Makes an interesting case, but if Mark Howe was waiting this long........


1991
Scott Neidermeyer- Yes
Peter Forsberg - Lock
Chris Osgood - In a just world, he doesn't get in. And the HHOF to their credit are pretty strict on goalies and always stay that way
Eric Lindros - 50/50, but he falls into the category of a guy that everyone will keep talking about until he's in there

1992
Sergei Gonchar - Maybe/Outside Shot. Lots to like about him for sure.

1993
Chris Pronger - Yes
Kariya - outside shot, but I wouldn't induct him.

1994
Daniel Alfredsson - A player who benefits when you look back on his career. At least a fence sitter right now

1995
Jarome Iginla- Yes, but there will be the types who argue against his playoff success

1996
Zdeno Chara - Yes

1997
Joe Thornton - Yes
Roberto Luongo - I know the 2011 Cup final gave him a bad reputation, but he's still young and even without a championship I don't see him any worse than Esposito or Giacomin among the non-Cup goalies
Marian Hossa - Maybe, but could win another Cup

1998
Vincent Lecavlier - Outside Shot, but he's getting worse all the time. What more can he add to his resume?
Brad Richards - Outside Shot, but better than Lecavalier IMO. At least is aging better
Pavel Datsyuk - Very good shot, among the best of his generation. A Cup winner, an extremely talented player, a ton of Selkes already.

1999
Henrik Sedin - On the right path
Daniel Sedin - On the right path
Ryan Miller - Needs a lot of work to get in there. Goaltending is more strict than anywhere else. He needs something he doesn't have yet - playoff success.

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I know hes slightly overrated on these boards but Forsberg has got to be a lock.
I was thinking the same thing myself, Iggy is a lock and Pronger is pretty close to one as well.

Thorton is getting really close to being a lock, heck he might even be one today.

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I believe every Art Ross winner is in there that is eligible. After that in general Iginla, Forsberg and St. Louis are considered anywhere from good bets to locks. Thornton is getting close too. That leaves Crosby, Ovechkin, Malkin, both Sedins. The way their pace is going it is hard to imagine any of them being omitted. Oh, and Jagr is the other Art Ross winner not eligible. But that's a lock.

As for Hart winners don't be too sure. Rollins and Anderson aren't in. Lindros will have a ton of trouble getting in. Theodore has no chance. Perry has a lot to do to get in there as well. So the Hart is not 100%.



Look, if better goalies like Vernon, Barrasso, Vachon are waiting then so will Osgood. All three of them are winners as well and especially the first two were more important than Osgood ever was to the Cup. Vachon won three Cups, but did more damage as a King. Osgood should buy a ticket.

1990
Jaromir Jagr - Lock
Martin Brodeur - Lock

Keith Tkachuk - No chance
Peter Bondra - 500 goals...........and about 11 assists. No chance
Doug Weight - No chance
SergeI Zubov- Makes an interesting case, but if Mark Howe was waiting this long........


1991
Scott Neidermeyer- Yes
Peter Forsberg - Lock
Chris Osgood - In a just world, he doesn't get in. And the HHOF to their credit are pretty strict on goalies and always stay that way
Eric Lindros - 50/50, but he falls into the category of a guy that everyone will keep talking about until he's in there

1992
Sergei Gonchar - Maybe/Outside Shot. Lots to like about him for sure.

1993
Chris Pronger - Yes
Kariya - outside shot, but I wouldn't induct him.

1994
Daniel Alfredsson - A player who benefits when you look back on his career. At least a fence sitter right now

1995
Jarome Iginla- Yes, but there will be the types who argue against his playoff success

1996
Zdeno Chara - Yes

1997
Joe Thornton - Yes
Roberto Luongo - I know the 2011 Cup final gave him a bad reputation, but he's still young and even without a championship I don't see him any worse than Esposito or Giacomin among the non-Cup goalies
Marian Hossa - Maybe, but could win another Cup

1998
Vincent Lecavlier - Outside Shot, but he's getting worse all the time. What more can he add to his resume?
Brad Richards - Outside Shot, but better than Lecavalier IMO. At least is aging better
Pavel Datsyuk - Very good shot, among the best of his generation. A Cup winner, an extremely talented player, a ton of Selkes already.

1999
Henrik Sedin - On the right path
Daniel Sedin - On the right path
Ryan Miller - Needs a lot of work to get in there. Goaltending is more strict than anywhere else. He needs something he doesn't have yet - playoff success.
.917 save % in the playoffs and an exceptional Olympics in 10 along with his regular season work is going to go a long way in his case.

My bet is that he makes it into the Hall at the end of the day.

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I believe every Art Ross winner is in there that is eligible.
Herb Cain isn't.

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.917 save % in the playoffs and an exceptional Olympics in 10 along with his regular season work is going to go a long way in his case.

My bet is that he makes it into the Hall at the end of the day.
I think he could too. But does he have any better career value than Olaf Kolzig right now?

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Herb Cain isn't.
Ah, right. Why do we always forget about Cain. Although to be fair, he never won the "Art Ross" technically since it didn't come until 1948 as an official award. He did lead the NHL in points though.

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No way Miller makes it in yet.

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2nd overall, 1997. Marleau already is a lock to get his jersey retired.
A Stanley Cup and a Conn Smythe oughtta get him into the HHOF!


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Forsberg is a lock dont kid yourself
As I posted in the other thread--the moment Neely went in Peter the great became a first ballot winner

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2nd overall, 1997. Marleau already is a lock to get his jersey retired.
A Stanley Cup and a Conn Smythe oughtta get him into the HHOF!
A three time all-star with no awards and no top 10 points finishes? He'll need more than that to be HHoF material.

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As I posted in the other thread--the moment Neely went in Peter the great became a first ballot winner
Peter was in the conversation for best player in the world for a few years, and has a great playoff record. I can't see any legit HHOF that wouldn't induct him, Neely or not

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If Hossa is a probably, than Elias should be too. Similar point totals, with Elias playing better D, 2 cups and played his whole career with one team

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Forsberg is an absolute shoo-in and Lindros is not far behind. How can you have Neely in there but not those two? It wouldn't make sense.

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it seems weird to say, but i don't know that giguere's resume is any worse than cheevers...

i guess if you factor in WHA years, cheevers is ahead. and i know cheevers is usually considered the worst HHOF post-expansion goalie, but it's food for thought. giguere has extremely high peaks, and has compiled enough, i think, to now be in the conversation. to me at least, i like giguere for the hall more than a guy with a fuller regular season career like kolzig or nabokov or khabibulin or sean burke. not that i think giguere should be in the hall, though.

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