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03-03-2012, 08:58 AM
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Avs need a game breaker

I thought there should be a thread on this topic because too often it's being overlooked by the Avs fans.

This team needs a game breaker, star forward who can create something out of nothing when no one on the team is clicking. The Avs have too many complimentary players and no game breaker

A good example of what i mean is the recent play of the Avs. They can go on win streaks and during that streak you see one or two or sometimes all 4 lines clicking, like during the recent 4 game win streak.

But the game against the Jackets proves my point. The team hits a wall where no one on the team is clicking. That's where this team needs that one true star forward who can change the game by individual effort.

Even the most skilled forwards on this team (Stastny and Duchene) are complimentary players. They only click when the entire team is clicking. You hardly ever see when Avs struggle Duchene or Stastny do something to change the game I.E. the game against the Jackets.

I really think for this team to take the next step will eventually need a Stamkos, Datsyuk type of player. I don't know where it's gonna come from but Avs do need one for sure

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When duchene gets fully healed and more experienced hell be that guy. You're the youngest team in the league and are stacked at forward.

Your most pressing need for next year is by far a legit top 4, or hopefully top pair, defender. The ufa markets a bit bare so you might have to make a trade. Besides Suter, brad Stuart and Dennis wideman are about the only are that really interests me. But I think either fit what you need.

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When duchene gets fully healed and more experienced hell be that guy. You're the youngest team in the league and are stacked at forward.

Your most pressing need for next year is by far a legit top 4, or hopefully top pair, defender. The ufa markets a bit bare so you might have to make a trade. Besides Suter, brad Stuart and Dennis wideman are about the only are that really interests me. But I think either fit what you need.
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It really seems like people are forgetting we are the youngest team in the league. Alot of our players will improve in time. It sure seems like some fans are expecting this team to be like our cup winning team, but that won't happen most likely we had multiple HHOFers. One of which is in the top ten for points all time. So let's be patient and watch the boys grow together.

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the avs definitely need a gamebreaker

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When duchene gets fully healed and more experienced hell be that guy. You're the youngest team in the league and are stacked at forward.

Your most pressing need for next year is by far a legit top 4, or hopefully top pair, defender. The ufa markets a bit bare so you might have to make a trade. Besides Suter, brad Stuart and Dennis wideman are about the only are that really interests me. But I think either fit what you need.
Stuart is probably going to Cali and HELL NO to Wideman.

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It really seems like people are forgetting we are the youngest team in the league. Alot of our players will improve in time. It sure seems like some fans are expecting this team to be like our cup winning team, but that won't happen most likely we had multiple HHOFers. One of which is in the top ten for points all time. So let's be patient and watch the boys grow together.
Well said.

This team is so young and has so much potential. Let them develop into game breakers.

We will have to wait until the end of the season to pick up anyone else. Even then, the addition of one game breaker will mean nothing if this team does not continue to develop.

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Well it doesnt have to be a allstar player , Drury was that game breaker ,a good player but no an allstar. I have the felling that Lando could devlop in that "game breaker" role .

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So I may be new, but why is it you only come out during "OH GOD WE SUCK" moments?

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This has been common knowledge for quite some time now...

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Stuart is probably going to Cali and HELL NO to Wideman.
Then good luck improving your d because of available defenders this year, they're the only 2 who fit your needs and are realistic.

Im not crazy about wideman, but he'd clearly be an upgrade over the puckmovers you have. Elliot and Barrie arent going to just step right into your top puckmover/pp QB role. And youre really askin ej to do a lot more than he should have to if he's going to be your #1 "offensive" dman next year. A veteran puckmover whos at least average defensively, blocks shots, hits, and provides a cannon shot is exactly what you guys need.

Do you really want to enter next season with ej and Elliot as your only true 2-way defenders? Hunwick, hejda, and the O' boys aren't gonna create much for your forwards. The avs are one of the worst teams for defensive scoring in the league right now with 89 points from dmen. For comparison, the islanders have 87 points from d, the devil's who regularly use 5 forwards on the pp have 86. Now to contrast good teams, Chicago has 139, my team the pens have 113 with Letang missing major time, vancouver has 159, and Boston has 130.

You're d corps is a faaaar way off from a contender. You need some veteran skill asap.

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Then good luck improving your d because of available defenders this year, they're the only 2 who fit your needs and are realistic.

Im not crazy about wideman, but he'd clearly be an upgrade over the puckmovers you have. Elliot and Barrie arent going to just step right into your top puckmover/pp QB role. And youre really askin ej to do a lot more than he should have to if he's going to be your #1 "offensive" dman next year. A veteran puckmover whos at least average defensively, blocks shots, hits, and provides a cannon shot is exactly what you guys need.

Do you really want to enter next season with ej and Elliot as your only true 2-way defenders? Hunwick, hejda, and the O' boys aren't gonna create much for your forwards. The avs are one of the worst teams for defensive scoring in the league right now with 89 points from dmen. For comparison, the islanders have 87 points from d, the devil's who regularly use 5 forwards on the pp have 86. Now to contrast good teams, Chicago has 139, my team the pens have 113 with Letang missing major time, vancouver has 159, and Boston has 130.

You're d corps is a faaaar way off from a contender. You need some veteran skill asap.
Matt Carle?

As for the subject matter of this thread, Matt Duchene can be a game breaker at times, but has had a bad year. And the reality is that acquiring a game breaker like Rick Nash would cost the Avalanche Matt Duchene.

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Landy is teh gamebreaker.

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Landy is teh gamebreaker.
That entire line is. Between Landeskog and O'Reilly it's pretty much a given win when they put up points.

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Duchene has the skills to be that gamebreaker, he has some of the best hands in the league, to go along with superb skating. The problem is that he plays too "dumb" to take full advantage of his physical gifts. He'll either mature into that gamebreaker or he'll be one of those players that leave you wondering "what if"

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Matt Carle?

As for the subject matter of this thread, Matt Duchene can be a game breaker at times, but has had a bad year. And the reality is that acquiring a game breaker like Rick Nash would cost the Avalanche Matt Duchene.
I see Carle enough as a pens fan and im not big on him. I think wideman would bring much more to you guys. Carle doesn't have a good shot and is just as suspect defensively as wideman. He also won't bring the physicality and aggressiveness on the puck wideman does.

I also doubt Philly lets him go because he's all they have as a puckmover for the future.

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Maybe we can get Liles for a 2nd?

In all honesty I think the Avs are banking on Elliot (to a lesser degree Barrie) for that 2-way defender. I wouldn't say I agree, and it's hard when his last game was brutal... hopefully after a good summer he'll put on some weight and improve his consistency, then it might work. There isn't really a huge concern to acquire one though because there are guys who will eventually fill that role. As with many other aspects of the team, it just requires some patience (OT, but LOL at that Kizla article on DP - win now??).

Perhaps more puzzling is how the D currently generates 'offense'. For example, Wilson actually has a decent shot - but you wouldn't know it because you only see it maybe 1/20 games. Instead, I've seen SOB drill it A) wide B) into a skate C) goalie's chest - no rebound D) All of the Above at least 3 times a game. It's like Kobasew with an open net and a perfect pass from Staz... it's just never going to go in, and I no longer trick myself into thinking it might.

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Maybe we can get Liles for a 2nd?

In all honesty I think the Avs are banking on Elliot (to a lesser degree Barrie) for that 2-way defender. I wouldn't say I agree, and it's hard when his last game was brutal... hopefully after a good summer he'll put on some weight and improve his consistency, then it might work. There isn't really a huge concern to acquire one though because there are guys who will eventually fill that role. As with many other aspects of the team, it just requires some patience (OT, but LOL at that Kizla article on DP - win now??).

Perhaps more puzzling is how the D currently generates 'offense'. For example, Wilson actually has a decent shot - but you wouldn't know it because you only see it maybe 1/20 games. Instead, I've seen SOB drill it A) wide B) into a skate C) goalie's chest - no rebound D) All of the Above at least 3 times a game. It's like Kobasew with an open net and a perfect pass from Staz... it's just never going to go in, and I no longer trick myself into thinking it might.
I don't understand the leeway that Elliott gets. He can play absolutely terribly and Sacco does not seem to mind. I really want to see Barrie play in place of him and be given an actual chance like Elliott has.

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Baulders gate 2 can attest to my game breaker status.

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Sacco breaks our game all the time
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hunwick looks like hes gonna be our new gamebreaker

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You've got one in Duchene.. just give him time.

Landeskog and O'Reily will definitely be more than complimentary players...

If the defense improves the Avs will be a top team in the West within 2 years.

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