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03-03-2012, 10:53 AM
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Is Michal Neuvirth ready for the next step?

With Vokoun's contract ending at the end of the season, do you guys think that Neuvirth can establish himself as the Caps number one netminder as soon as neext season? Or will he once again split some time as a veteran's backup?

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03-03-2012, 10:55 AM
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Well Neuvy was the man last year and performed well as a rookie. Named rookie of the month for September last year I think. But as much as I hope he will be the man going forward, he is still a big question mark.

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03-03-2012, 11:20 AM
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In a word, no.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/stats/by...e=NHL&sort=112

The last time a Caps goalie posted a save percentage under 90%, he was unceremoniously thrown out on his ass.

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03-03-2012, 11:39 AM
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In a word, no.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/stats/by...e=NHL&sort=112

The last time a Caps goalie posted a save percentage under 90%, he was unceremoniously thrown out on his ass.



You tell me this. After winning the starting job over in his rookie year, being named the starter after his competition was traded, and then having another goalie signed to be a 1 year starter, that didn't effect him mentally?
How about when he outplayed Vokoun in training camp and still wasn't given the reigns, that didn't effect him mentally?
Not to mention, it is his sophomore season, and he would only be the 500th+ player to be going through a sophomore slump.

Goalie is a tough position, and a lot of it is mental. Other than last night, which also means today is a bad time for this topic, he has been just fine in the year 2012.


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03-03-2012, 11:49 AM
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You tell me this. After winning the starting job over in his rookie year, being named the starter after his competition was traded, and then having another goalie signed to be a 1 year starter, that didn't effect him mentally?
How about when he outplayed Vokoun in training camp and still wasn't given the reigns, that didn't effect him mentally?
Not to mention, it is his sophomore season, and he would only be the 500th+ player to be going through a sophomore slump.

Goalie is a tough position, and a lot of it is mental. Other than last night, which also means today is a bad time for this topic, he has been just fine in the year 2012.
So on the one hand you acknowledge that goalie is a mentally challenging position, and on the other you say that Neuvirth's fragile mental makeup has been spooked by the events of the last year.

We agree then. Time to find someone who can handle the position and its demands.


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03-03-2012, 11:55 AM
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So on the one hand you acknowledge that goalie is a mentally challenging position, and on the other you say that Neuvirth's fragile mental makeup has been spooked by the events of the last year.

We agree then. Time to find someone who can handle the position and its demands.

No, i said he had mental unstableness.

In the year 2k12 he has clearly shown signs of being over that hump, as well as the NORMAL sophomore slump.

However, people are going to use his (full season) stats and his one bad game in 2012 as evidence that he isn't even worth a 4th rounder.

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Unstableness.

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Unstableness.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/unstableness

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Unstableness.
It's a perfectly cromulent word.

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No one is ready for the next step.

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No one is ready for the next step.
False. McPhee is ready for the next step in his career.

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After last season I would have said he's absolutely ready to be our number 1 goalie. After this season I'd say probably not. Maybe he's just a guy who needs to get a lot of starts to play well, or maybe he's just not up to snuff. Maybe it's just a sophomore slump, who knows.

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I wonder if some in this thread felt the same way about Olie before he got his act together and claimed the Caps #1 goalie job.

Not saying Neuvy will be as good as Olie, but it seems silly to cast off a promising young goalie prospect after the rookie year he had.

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I've always thought Neuvirth was going to be an average goalie. Haven't really seen much evidence to contradict that.

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I wonder if some in this thread felt the same way about Olie before he got his act together and claimed the Caps #1 goalie job.

Not saying Neuvy will be as good as Olie, but it seems silly to cast off a promising young goalie prospect after the rookie year he had.
Exactly.
The fact that people think Neuvy is in his prime at 22, i just can't comprehend it.
Especially with all the mental things that had obviously effected him for the first half of the season.

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03-03-2012, 08:03 PM
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I wonder if some in this thread felt the same way about Olie before he got his act together and claimed the Caps #1 goalie job.

Not saying Neuvy will be as good as Olie, but it seems silly to cast off a promising young goalie prospect after the rookie year he had.
The problem is that our time frame for winning is yesterday, not five years from now.

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Goalies are so unpredictable. Right now I have as much confidence in Neuvy as I would in a decent backup, say Brent Johnson in the old days. He could certainly still develop into an elite #1, but who knows what the odds are... 25%?

Still, I'll take Neuvy over a guy like Bryzgalov, anyday. You can win with an ok but cheap goalie. You can royally screw up the cap with an expensive guy that doesn't live up to expectations. The number of truly consistently elite goalies is so stunningly small that all you can do, IMO, is make sure you have a decent cheap goalie and enough goalies in the system so that eventually maybe a diamond will emerge. And I think the Caps are still ok on that front with Neuvirth and Holtby. But they should keep drafting goalies..

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03-03-2012, 08:21 PM
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I don't get the whole 'we only want elite goaltenders' thing. Yeah I don't see Neuvirth being an elite goaltender either but that doesn't mean he still can't be a good one.

They need Ovechkin to be an elite scorer and Backstrom to be an elite center. If they need an elite goaltender on top of that then they might as well start all over...

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The Blackhawks and Flyers sure needed elite goalies........

Niemi and Leighton/Boucher.

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I don't get the whole 'we only want elite goaltenders' thing. Yeah I don't see Neuvirth being an elite goaltender either but that doesn't mean he still can't be a good one.

They need Ovechkin to be an elite scorer and Backstrom to be an elite center. If they need an elite goaltender on top of that then they might as well start all over...
Sub 900 save percentage. That's well past a liability.

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Sub 900 save percentage. That's well past a liability.
Agreed. He has had a tough sophomore season but he had a very nice rookie season. IMO we need a good amount more data...

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Our future WRT our tenders used to be a source of optimism for me. How quickly things can change. Varly gone, Vokoun inconsistent, Neuvy regressing after last year, Holtby, few good reports it seems. Its not just the team playing like crap in front of the G's, They are having their fair share of problems.

A fragile team needs the goalie to steal games, or at least hold down the fort early on. Neuvy just seems to be off this year. He seemed ready for the next step, battling a vet for the starting position, not just other youngs Gs. Things just havent gone very well.

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Neuvy is a 1b goalie. He's better than your average backup but not good enough to be a full time #1. Hopefully Holtby takes the reigns.....

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