of course this is assuming that all the current ahl call ups stay in the ahl to start next season and that they dont sign a single one of the upcoming free agents
if you were snow what would you do to make this a play off team next season
for me i would (if i had to be realistic, which means no parise or suter)
resign
nabby (2 year contract, 4 per)
PaP (4 year contract, 5 per)
Jurcina (2 year contract, 2 per)
and montoya (2 year contract, 2.5 per)
sign d men
kubina (3 year contract, 5 per)
sarich ( 2 year contract, 3 per)
gilroy (1 year contract, 1.5 per)
sign forwards (kinda a shot at snow for signing old declining vets but i think they could help out alot)
arnott (3 year contract, 2.5 per)
lagenbrunner (2 year contract, 2 per)
stoll (3 year contract, 3.5 per)
call up Ullstrom
send nino and reasoner to B-port
DP on ltir
and than the line up would look like this
Moulson - Tavares - PaP
Grabner - Nielsen - Bailey
Ullstrom - Stoll - Okposo
Martin - Arnott - Langenbrunner
not only would this make it so the islanders make the play offs but it would put them some where in the 4-6 range in the conference, that is if i was snow and wang let me spend
I hope we don't give PAP 4 years of 5 per.. thats too much
also thats a crazy overpayment for kubina
no need to give arnott 2.5 for the season which hes playing at 40 years old
montoya is also not going to get anywhere close to that kind of money
not only would this make it so the islanders make the play offs but it would put them some where in the 4-6 range in the conference, that is if i was snow and wang let me spend
I don't think that team is a lock for the playoffs let alone a 4-6 spot. A 4 spot means finishing 2nd in the Atlantic. A 4-6 seed means finishing ahead of teams like Philly, NYR, Pitt, NJ, Ottawa, Winnepeg and Florida. And Tampa, Buffalo Washington if they ever get right.
of course this is assuming that all the current ahl call ups stay in the ahl to start next season and that they dont sign a single one of the upcoming free agents
if you were snow what would you do to make this a play off team next season
for me i would (if i had to be realistic, which means no parise or suter)
resign
nabby (2 year contract, 4 per)
PaP (4 year contract, 5 per)
Jurcina (2 year contract, 2 per)
and montoya (2 year contract, 2.5 per)
sign d men
kubina (3 year contract, 5 per)
sarich ( 2 year contract, 3 per)
gilroy (1 year contract, 1.5 per)
sign forwards (kinda a shot at snow for signing old declining vets but i think they could help out alot)
arnott (3 year contract, 2.5 per)
lagenbrunner (2 year contract, 2 per)
stoll (3 year contract, 3.5 per)
call up Ullstrom
send nino and reasoner to B-port
DP on ltir
and than the line up would look like this
Moulson - Tavares - PaP
Grabner - Nielsen - Bailey
Ullstrom - Stoll - Okposo
Martin - Arnott - Langenbrunner
not only would this make it so the islanders make the play offs but it would put them some where in the 4-6 range in the conference, that is if i was snow and wang let me spend
The Islanders should resign Nabby, PAP and Jurcina, beyond that, they should go all out for Matt Carle or Ryan Suter on defense. I don't think they should resign Montoya. They should bring up Poulin or Nilsson to backup Nabby. I think Cizakas, Nino and Ness or Donovan make the team next year too.
Moulson - Tavares - PAP
Grabner - Nielsen - Bailey
Ullstrom - Cizakas - Nino
Martin - Reasoner - Okposo * In 2013 when Reasoner's contract expires, hopefully Strome will be ready.
Hamonic - Carle or Suter
McDonald - Streit
Jurcina - Ness of Donovan
With that forward corps, the bottom 6 are interchangeable based on how they perform, but they should not be going into the season as potential top 6 forwards. If they surprise, great. However, the mistake made by Garth is that he expected progression from all youngsters and that did not happen. This team needs a 2nd line center, and a top 6 winger.
Options for C: Parise, Jokinen
Options for W: Doan, Whitney, Grabovski, Hudler, Huselius
On defense these should be the pairings the Isles should be going in with:
Options for top 4 dmen: Suter, Wideman, Carle
Options for bottom pair dman: Jackman, Corvo, Rozsival, Kubina, Kuba
As far as goaltending goes, it's too early to tell if Dipietro is coming back. But this seems to be the least of our problems, as the Isles will have 2 of Nabokov, Montoya, Poulin, or Nilsson as their tandem next year. I really do think that Dipietro will start next season in the AHL. Whatever the case, goaltending will come internally.
To sum up, the Isles need 4 players to be competitive next season: one 2nd line center, one top 6 winger, one top pair dman, and one bottom pair dman.
Realistically speaking if we get Jokinen, Doan, Carle, and Jackman we make our team better, tougher, and add veterans that are/were captains. Not to mention, veterans that can actually still produce at the NHL level.
We should try to get Malone from TBL.....He might be a bit overpaid but I would rather overpay for a guy who actually adds somthing then to overpay for Rolston...
Malone can score,hes Big, hes Tough, and I think he would fit in well here...
With that forward corps, the bottom 6 are interchangeable based on how they perform, but they should not be going into the season as potential top 6 forwards. If they surprise, great. However, the mistake made by Garth is that he expected progression from all youngsters and that did not happen. This team needs a 2nd line center, and a top 6 winger.
Options for C: Parise, Jokinen
Options for W: Doan, Whitney, Grabovski, Hudler, Huselius
On defense these should be the pairings the Isles should be going in with:
Options for top 4 dmen: Suter, Wideman, Carle
Options for bottom pair dman: Jackman, Corvo, Rozsival, Kubina, KubaAs far as goaltending goes, it's too early to tell if Dipietro is coming back. But this seems to be the least of our problems, as the Isles will have 2 of Nabokov, Montoya, Poulin, or Nilsson as their tandem next year. I really do think that Dipietro will start next season in the AHL. Whatever the case, goaltending will come internally.
To sum up, the Isles need 4 players to be competitive next season: one 2nd line center, one top 6 winger, one top pair dman, and one bottom pair dman.
Realistically speaking if we get Jokinen, Doan, Carle, and Jackman we make our team better, tougher, and add veterans that are/were captains. Not to mention, veterans that can actually still produce at the NHL level.
IMO the Bolded are all better than Eaton and Jurcina...Jackman corvo and Kubina would be welcomed by me...
Of course I know its a longggggg Shot but I say throw the Bank at suter.....
We should try to get Malone from TBL.....He might be a bit overpaid but I would rather overpay for a guy who actually adds somthing then to overpay for Rolston...
Malone can score,hes Big, hes Tough, and I think he would fit in well here...
Realistically speaking if we get Jokinen, Doan, Carle, and Jackman we make our team better, tougher, and add veterans that are/were captains. Not to mention, veterans that can actually still produce at the NHL level.
+1
Im not saying that exact remedy is needed, but we need players that are like 30ish, who still have game, but are leaders as well. all the scrap heap guys have basically been a waste for us these last few years.
...barring that, we're going to be ****** again next year.
the only way to make NYI a contender. Is Wang sells the team. New owners gets a real GM then hires an NHL coach. All this while vowing never to put anyone from Massachusetts in the organization.
I don't think that team is a lock for the playoffs let alone a 4-6 spot. A 4 spot means finishing 2nd in the Atlantic. A 4-6 seed means finishing ahead of teams like Philly, NYR, Pitt, NJ, Ottawa, Winnepeg and Florida. And Tampa, Buffalo Washington if they ever get right.
To me, that's a lot to ask for that team.
what makes the devils, sens, jets, panthers, sabres, flyers and rags better than they line up i just posted?
the only way to make NYI a contender. Is Wang sells the team. New owners gets a real GM then hires an NHL coach. All this while vowing never to put anyone from Massachusetts in the organization.
Free agency is not the way to go.
The line up constructed in the OP has a core that is unchanged from the current group — especially the top 6 — which has struggled this season.
I have long been an advocate for patience, but keeping the same top 6 virtually unchanged is not going to get this team to the playoffs with the additions listed.
If we assume for a moment the OP line-up, the blue would be a bit better for sure — in fact quite serviceable. No problem keep Nabby or PAP but overpaying and I dont think that would be needed here for either. Putting aside the dollars — where I think we are going to have a major issue with the OP line up is at center.
Neilsen is not a true #2. He is a very good #3. This lineup still leaves us a centerman too short.
I would suggest that Cizikas and Ullstrom could play themselves into the line up over the next 20 games for next year. That is not a bad thing by the way. Problem is — I dont think either is a #2 centerman. I also have to believe that one of de Haan, Donovan or Ness will take one of the 3 open blueline positions.
If I am Snow, I am not looking at free agency — Im looking to make a deal. Preferably one that centers around the 2012 first round pick, an additional pick and one of my forward prospects not named Strome, Nino or Nelson. Those 3 would be off limits for now for me.
My mission would be to obtain either a 6'4" of so scoring wing or playmaking center OR a 6'4" defender that can play top 4, logging lots of minutes and play in all situations.
This team is in desperate need of size. It goes without saying the player coming back in any deal has to be under contract for a min of 5 years or be willing to sign before the deal is consummated.
That would be, and frankly should be, the mission of Garth Snow from now until opening day 2012. I have to believe a package that would in essence be something like the 2012 1st rd. pick, a player like Okposo or Bailey, a prospect perhaps like Andres Lee would be quite valuable to a team entering a rebuilding stage (like the Jackets or even the Flames who are in need of rebuilding and/or adding prospects and picks)
Im just saying — a deal would be my mission, not free agency.
If I'm Bill Torrey, I'm building a winner BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. Ruling out free agency is as sinful as necessitating any coach or scout be from New England.
