What would you guys think of double trading down to 3 for 2013 swap options? (I know it didn't work out for Florida, but it is a high risk/reward play, all option contracts are).
To CBJ:
1st OV
To Edm:
2nd OV
2013 1st Round Swap Option
To Mtl:
2dn OV
To Edm:
3rd OV
2013 1st Round Swap Option
Gives us the best defencemen in this draft, and 3 shots at Mackinnon next year. and even if it doesn't result in Mackinnon, there's a good chance we move up in a stacked top-10 in 2013.
And i know many of you will like the added bonus that next year we wouldn't really have incentive to suck.
I'd consider the Columbus deal but not the Montreal deal unless we knew that we'd get the player that we want at 3. There's a very good chance that Columbus is worse than us next year.
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I'm actually not hoping to win the lottery. The league would be consider rigged. And even if we win the Stanley Cup, it'll forever make the history of the Oilers look flawed.
With the signing of Hemsky, our drastic needs are center and defense, goaltending. Let's stick to the plan.
IMHO Yakupov is a sure thing. He's been a lock as #1 for over 2 years now. Grigorenko is a somewhat sure thing with noted motivational issues.
After that it's a bit more of a crap shoot.
I do get a bit worried about players that schuffle around too much. I remember when Steve Duschesne was starting to be mentioned as a possible usurper for #1st over Tavares, and in hindsight I have no idea how that was even possible.
I'm actually not hoping to win the lottery. The league would be consider rigged. And even if we win the Stanley Cup, it'll forever make the history of the Oilers look flawed.
Pittsburgh Chicago and Colorado don't seem flawwed. Montreal used to get the advantage of rigged drafting, but nobody is taking away their historic dynasties of the past.
As with everything in life, nobody gives 2 craps about the process. The only thing that matters is the results.
I'm actually not hoping to win the lottery. The league would be consider rigged. And even if we win the Stanley Cup, it'll forever make the history of the Oilers look flawed.
Maybe on HF, but I doubt it'll happen elsewhere. Look at Pittsburgh or Chicago. Pittsburgh went 1-2-1-2 and got generational guys. After they won a cup very few people complained about the drafting they had.
I don't know about over in Edmonton, but I live in Montreal. Seems like everywhere I go, when hockey comes into discussion, people are complaining about the Oilers getting the 1st overall twice and already calling the league rigged. Just imagine Oilers get a third 1st overall.
Just take Yakupov. Having three potential 40 goal scorers on one team will help make up for weaker areas of the roster. With Yakupov, as long as this team has a reasonable defense and decent bottom 6 (and slightly above average goaltending maybe), they should be in the playoffs and they should be challenging for cups within 5 years.
Edit: Can't say I particularly care what other fans say if the Oilers win the cup. Think Penguin fans care?
No way I'd do that from an oilers point of view. It's a gamble we don't need to make. You could be giving up the 1st overall pick in a draft to potentially move up a position or two next year. If we end up lower we get nothing. If teams want to move up it will cost them tangible assets now.
I don't quite get the point of this? Don' draft a defenceman because he'll be a bust? The 2008 draft was this:
1 Steven Stamkos (centre)
2 Drew Doughty (defence)
3 Zach Bogosian (defence)
4 Alex Pietrangelo (defence)
5 Luke Schenn (defence)
You wouldn't want any of those 4?
Don't draft for need or you might end up with a bust by moving down ala barker. pretty sure we can trade for a D with the assets we will have. take bpa. if we get the center at 2 we can package gagner at the draft for a top 3 d man
I don't know about over in Edmonton, but I live in Montreal. Seems like everywhere I go, when hockey comes into discussion, people are complaining about the Oilers getting the 1st overall twice and already calling the league rigged. Just imagine Oilers get a third 1st overall.
Then they need to watch this team more often. They would feel sorry for us and just throw in their pick out of pity.
I don't know about over in Edmonton, but I live in Montreal. Seems like everywhere I go, when hockey comes into discussion, people are complaining about the Oilers getting the 1st overall twice and already calling the league rigged. Just imagine Oilers get a third 1st overall.
Dude! We earned those picks. Its a lotto and if we win sweet.
Anyone complaining about it knows whats coming and is just envious of our current situation.
I don't quite get the point of this? Don' draft a defenceman because he'll be a bust? The 2008 draft was this:
1 Steven Stamkos (centre)
2 Drew Doughty (defence) yes
3 Zach Bogosian (defence) maybe
4 Alex Pietrangelo (defence) YES
5 Luke Schenn (defence) no
You wouldn't want any of those 4?
As a top 5 pick? See above. That's a gamble imo. What happens if we were picking at #2 in 08 and were set on a shut down guy so we took Schenn? I'd rather the safer bet in Grigorenko.
I don't know about over in Edmonton, but I live in Montreal. Seems like everywhere I go, when hockey comes into discussion, people are complaining about the Oilers getting the 1st overall twice and already calling the league rigged. Just imagine Oilers get a third 1st overall.
Meh. Give it a few years. Nobody is complaining about Pittsburgh. People will forget soon enough when the next team to tank starts picking up annual lottery picks
Don't draft for need or you might end up with a bust by moving down ala barker. pretty sure we can trade for a D with the assets we will have. take bpa. if we get the center at 2 we can package gagner at the draft for a top 3 d man