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03-03-2012, 11:39 PM
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He'd ask why he would want to part with the best player in the deal.
He would drive Kessel to the Airport so fast it would make your head spin......best player ...nope.

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He would drive Kessel to the Airport so fast it would make your head spin......best player ...nope.
Your opinion is wrong.

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He would drive Kessel to the Airport so fast it would make your head spin......best player ...nope.
Please make your case for that.

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Kessel trade was not a great example to post...we lost that trade and bad. Seguin, Hamilton,and Knight. Ask Burke if he would trade Kessel for that package right now.
I don't care if Burke does it!!!!I would, and I am getting tired with people like you that we lost this trade!!! so far no one on this board can give me absolute proof that we lost this trade!!!!

Seriously...guys like you complaining that we lost this trade does not make it so!!!

WE WON THIS TRADE HANDS DOWN!!!!! GET IT???....IF NOT...GET OVER IT!! WE WON IT!!!


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He'd ask why he would want to part with the best player in the deal.
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It is not fair to look at this at one point in time.

I mean, it is not like BUrke can go to montreal and say give me your next 2 first round picks and I'll give you Colton Orr.
And since you have the better player - you win the deal.

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Your opinion is wrong.

It is my opinion and therefore it can not be wrong.....you can disagree all that you want.

Kessel is not the best player in that deal. Hamilton maybe the best player in that Deal, Seguin may yet be the best player in that deal. I do know that if that package was offered to Burke right now in exchange for Kessel.....it would be considered the best trade that Burke ever made!

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03-03-2012, 11:45 PM
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It is not fair to look at this at one point in time.

I mean, it is not like BUrke can go to montreal and say give me your next 2 first round picks and I'll give you Colton Orr.
And since you have the better player - you win the deal.
That is the dumbest analogy that I have seen in a long time. Congrats, lots of strong competition.

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Something is wrong with using quotes....it seems like we are arguing with ourselves.....I wonder who is winning?

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It is my opinion and therefore it can not be wrong.....you can disagree all that you want.

Kessel is not the best player in that deal. Hamilton maybe the best player in that Deal, Seguin may yet be the best player in that deal. I do know that if that package was offered to Burke right now in exchange for Kessel.....it would be considered the best trade that Burke ever made!
When a step backward right now is absolutely the wrong move? Someone would recommend a mental checkup.

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Sabres win... Damn you Luongo!

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03-03-2012, 11:50 PM
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Pretty much what I've alluded to all along. Losing now doesn't necessarily mean winning later.
Yes but there's a very good chance that it does. I'm damn sure the leafs would be much higher in the standings with Crosby, Malkin, Fluery and Staal. But that's just my opinion.

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It is not fair to look at this at one point in time.

I mean, it is not like BUrke can go to montreal and say give me your next 2 first round picks and I'll give you Colton Orr.
And since you have the better player - you win the deal.
WOW...


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That is the dumbest analogy that I have seen in a long time. Congrats, lots of strong competition.
I'm glad you say it is dumb - because that is an exaggeration of your argument. How can you say Kessel is the best player before those draft picks ever play in NHL?

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It is my opinion and therefore it can not be wrong.....you can disagree all that you want.

Kessel is not the best player in that deal. Hamilton maybe the best player in that Deal, Seguin may yet be the best player in that deal. I do know that if that package was offered to Burke right now in exchange for Kessel.....it would be considered the best trade that Burke ever made!
Not only that, the Kessel trade only makes sense if the leafs make the playoff.
If they never make the playoffs, then the trade did the franchise no good.
And 2 first and 2nd become a more interesting rebuild option.

Also, there is risk with Kessel having a couple more years on his contract in which he will either walk as UFA to avoid the Toronto media or sign for $7M. Now do you prefer those odds, or having low cost RFAs and entry contracts that 2 1st and 2nd provide (which will be less then 7M for a number of years and probably less then 5M)?

Burke chose Kessel, let's see if he is successful but the trade is more complex issue then goals and assists

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The quote function is fubar.

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lol at the misuse of quote function in previous posts on this and previous pages.

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When a step backward right now is absolutely the wrong move? Someone would recommend a mental checkup.
Still with guys like you I will never ever undrestand!!!


Did we get the best player to date??
did we get a guy in the top five in scoring?
did we get a top playmaker for his position..
did we get a guy that scores more than anyone in the las 5 years?

What in Gods name is the problem with you guys????

We got the absolute best player in the deal!!!

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I'm glad you say it is dumb - because that is an exaggeration of your argument. How can you say Kessel is the best player before those draft picks ever play in NHL?
The fact that you compared Kessel to Colton Orr is what made your statement dumb.

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Still with guys like you I will never ever undrestand!!!


Did we get the best player to date??
did we get a guy in the top five in scoring?
did we get a top playmaker for his position..
did we get a guy that scores more than anyone in the las 5 years?

What in Gods name is the problem with you guys????

We got the absolute best player in the deal!!!
Wrong person?

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I'm glad you say it is dumb - because that is an exaggeration of your argument. How can you say Kessel is the best player before those draft picks ever play in NHL?
You said "right now" if Burke was asked would he take Seguin, Knight, Hamilton for Kessel. RIGHT NOW, Kessel is easily the best player out of that group.

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Not only that, the Kessel trade only makes sense if the leafs make the playoff.
If they never make the playoffs, then the trade did the franchise no good.
And 2 first and 2nd become a more interesting rebuild option.

Also, there is risk with Kessel having a couple more years on his contract in which he will either walk as UFA to avoid the Toronto media or sign for $7M. Now do you prefer those odds, or having low cost RFAs and entry contracts that 2 1st and 2nd provide (which will be less then 7M for a number of years and probably less then 5M)?

Burke chose Kessel, let's see if he is successful but the trade is more complex issue then goals and assists

He added an elite goal scoring forward, who is consistently scoring 30 plus a season over the last 4 years. Not many players in the league can make that claim. He's a good athlete, and will likely continue to score at this rate for a long time. Not an easy thing to find these days. Easily worth the price Burke paid.

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oh god you people are still arguing the kessel deal. yeah. its time to let it go. im sorry. just.

let it go.

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Still with guys like you I will never ever undrestand!!!


Did we get the best player to date??
did we get a guy in the top five in scoring?
did we get a top playmaker for his position..
did we get a guy that scores more than anyone in the las 5 years?

What in Gods name is the problem with you guys????

We got the absolute best player in the deal!!!
I'm pretty sure Moose is agreeing with you.

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oh god you people are still arguing the kessel deal. yeah. its time to let it go. im sorry. just.

let it go.
Kessel might score 500 goals in Toronto, and people will still likely bring it up.

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