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11-08-2004, 11:30 AM
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Prospects at Four Nations Cup in Ann Arbor this week

Hey people.
I'm coving the Four Nations Cup in Ann Arbor this week (swe, fin, swi, usa)
I know Sweden has some injuries to top players ... but who are the kids I should really be watching for?

Thanks for any help.
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Hey people.
I'm coving the Four Nations Cup in Ann Arbor this week (swe, fin, swi, usa)
I know Sweden has some injuries to top players ... but who are the kids I should really be watching for?

Thanks for any help.
Stay tuned to hf for results.
Is there a website with a schedule of games and are tickets still available?

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Is there a website with a schedule of games and are tickets still available?
http://www.usahockey.com/ntdp/main_site/main/ntdp//

My guess is that there are plenty of tickets available

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For the US team the top NHL prospects are d-man Jack Johnson and forwards Jack Skille, Ryan Stoa, and Peter Mueller ('88 birthdate/'06 Draft). All four of them have first round potential.

A few other guys who should be important to the team or have interesting NHL draft potential are forwards Nathan Gerbe, Jason Lawrence, Jim Fraser, and Jason Bailey; d-men Mark Mitera (late '87), Zach Jones, Mike Stuart, Kyle Lawson, and Chad Morin ('88 birthdate); goalie Jeff Frazee.

The best player on the US team, Phil Kessel (late '87), is injured and won't be able to participate.

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Sweden are lacking their three best players. Bergfors(will play u-20 team), Sundström(injured) och Wandell(injured).

Sweden - Finland 2-2 (shots: 26-21)

USA - Schweiz 6-4 (40-29)

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For the US team the top NHL prospects are d-man Jack Johnson and forwards Jack Skille, Ryan Stoa, and Peter Mueller ('88 birthdate/'06 Draft). All four of them have first round potential.

A few other guys who should be important to the team or have interesting NHL draft potential are forwards Nathan Gerbe, Jason Lawrence, Jim Fraser, and Jason Bailey; d-men Mark Mitera (late '87), Zach Jones, Mike Stuart, Kyle Lawson, and Chad Morin ('88 birthdate); goalie Jeff Frazee.

The best player on the US team, Phil Kessel (late '87), is injured and won't be able to participate.
Max Gratchev, who's a late 88 playing for Québec(qmjhl) be there too. I think he definitly have first round potential in 2007.

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For the US, it's Johnson, Stoa and Mueller. Johnson is a top 5 pick hands down, Stoa and Mueller will also be first rounders.

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Max Gratchev, who's a late 88 playing for Québec(qmjhl) be there too. I think he definitly have first round potential in 2007.

Was Gratchev released to play or what? I'm not following you here.

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So does anyone know about ticket prices for the under 17 tourney in rochester? usa v russia at 7 and im thinkin about going.

I'm thinking about going, its only an hour away.

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Was Gratchev released to play or what? I'm not following you here.
yeah... he was not playting against Rimouski this week-end for this reason

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yeah... he was not playting against Rimouski this week-end for this reason
Cool.

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Cool.
He'll be playing for Russia, however, not the U.S.

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He'll be playing for Russia, however, not the U.S.


Really? I guess not so cool. Doesn't matter in the big sceme of things, although I was under the impression he has spent the majority of his life in the U.S., and received most if not all of his training here.

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Really? I guess not so cool. Doesn't matter in the big sceme of things, although I was under the impression he has spent the majority of his life in the U.S., and received most if not all of his training here.
That's true, but he for some reason still considers himself Russian I guess.

The '88 crop looks to be very deep for the U.S. anyway (upfront, on D, and in goal).

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That's true, but he for some reason still considers himself Russian I guess.
With a name like Max Gratchev, you can't argue that.

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With a name like Max Gratchev, you can't argue that.
Yeah, but that's like saying with a name like Rafael Mauricio Torres... he should be playing for Mexico.

Besides, I'm not arguing it.

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Yeah, but that's like saying with a name like Rafael Mauricio Torres... he should be playing for Mexico.

Besides, I'm not arguing it.
I can't see a problem with it, if a guy wants to play for his mother land, all power to him.

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I can't see a problem with it, if a guy wants to play for his mother land, all power to him.
Admit it: If Iran had a national team you'd be all over it.

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I can't see a problem with it, if a guy wants to play for his mother land, all power to him.
Well, it's more understandable with a guy like Gratchev as he was actually born in Russia.

Either way, I'd be interested to see how he does.

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Admit it: If Iran had a national team you'd be all over it.
As much as I love Canada, that's true.

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Did Peter Mueller and Jason Lawrence play in the game vs. Finland?

EDIT: I found out that neither of them played because of their fights in the Sweden game.

I also read some first hand accounts of the games on another message board. The person said that the US team has been totally dominating the competition. They are a very physical team and none of the teams there can contain them. Against Finland they only used ten forwards and they still dominated. It will be great to add Kessel, Gerbe and maybe even Bobby Ryan for the IIHF WC's in April.


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