You're Tambellini. Are you confident going in next season with Grigorenko or Galchenyuk as your second line C and the hope that Klefblom, Musil, Teubert, or Marincin might dislodge one or two of your scrubs to form your final D corps?
You sign some stop gap UFAs or trade an Omark or a lander or a Paajarvi or your 2nd rounder for an established D. But what you dont do is pass on a BPA that fills another need at #2 overall.
Keep in mind even if Murray is NHL ready; he's not gonna be a top 2 dman as a rookie either
You're Tambellini. Are you confident going in next season with Grigorenko or Galchenyuk as your second line C and the hope that Klefblom, Musil, Teubert, or Marincin might dislodge one or two of your scrubs to form your final D corps?
It's not about next year. I figure they're going to look at veterans if they want to get into the POs.
You sign some stop gap UFAs or trade an Omark or a lander or a Paajarvi or your 2nd rounder for an established D. But what you dont do is pass on a BPA that fills another need at #2 overall.
Keep in mind even if Murray is NHL ready; he's not gonna be a top 2 dman as a rookie either
I hear you talking about BPA... Who tells you that Murray or Dumba arent BPA ???
People.... Murray/Dumba is on the long top 5 dman that do well and are studs.
Think Doughty, Larsson, Hedman, Johnson ETC....
While Grigorenko, Forsberg and Galchenyuk are on par with 2 to 5 pick like Duchene, Kane, Ryan.
Stop overating Grigorenko that much. Yes talent wise he's the BPA. But theres so many more intangibles that works in hockey... That makes Forsberg, Galchenyulk on the same level.
Even including Yakupov, each of the top six prospects is solid and could (should) become a top NHLer. It all depends on Trevor Timmins and his scouting staff and on PG if he's still the GM.
They may be in love with Grigorenko. They may be in love with Dumba. Maybe it's Galenchyuk. All of these players have unique special qualities and Montreal has many needs.
Dumba would look great in two years playing with Emelin. They would be havoc to play against.
The two Gs could be the #1 center we've been waiting for forever.
I hear you talking about BPA... Who tells you that Murray or Dumba arent BPA ???
If Murray or Dumba are judged to be BPA then this whole discussion is a moot point.
I do not believe the Oilers should pass on who they judge as BPA to fill needs at the number 2 spot.
However most (not all but most) scouts have stated Grigorenko is number 2.
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People.... Murray/Dumba is on the long top 5 dman that do well and are studs.
Think Doughty, Larsson, Hedman, Johnson ETC....
While Grigorenko, Forsberg and Galchenyuk are on par with 2 to 5 pick like Duchene, Kane, Ryan.
Stop overating Grigorenko that much. Yes talent wise he's the BPA. But theres so many more intangibles that works in hockey... That makes Forsberg, Galchenyulk on the same level.
Hopefully things pan out for us with regards to this next draft. I feel independant of who we pick there are risks but if they become the player the are projected to become this will change our franchise.
- We have in pacioretty a guy capable of scroring 40G in our lineup.
- A skilled offensive D (Subban)
- A Hard Hitting Dman (Emelin)
- A crafty Center (Desharnais)
- A top 10 Goalie
There is a lot to build from ... I am hoping now that we have a top line that we start building a new one...
Leblanc, Eller and Yakupov/Forsberg/Galchenyuk would be fine by me...
I hear you talking about BPA... Who tells you that Murray or Dumba arent BPA ???
People.... Murray/Dumba is on the long top 5 dman that do well and are studs.
Think Doughty, Larsson, Hedman, Johnson ETC....
While Grigorenko, Forsberg and Galchenyuk are on par with 2 to 5 pick like Duchene, Kane, Ryan.
Stop overating Grigorenko that much. Yes talent wise he's the BPA. But theres so many more intangibles that works in hockey... That makes Forsberg, Galchenyulk on the same level.
I would say Galchenyuk, assuming he can successfully come back plus Dumba and Murray on par with Grigorenko as #2-5. after that Forsbrg is a bit more risky with Trouba and others 6-10
You sign some stop gap UFAs or trade an Omark or a lander or a Paajarvi or your 2nd rounder for an established D. But what you dont do is pass on a BPA that fills another need at #2 overall.
Keep in mind even if Murray is NHL ready; he's not gonna be a top 2 dman as a rookie either
Paajarvi and Omark won't get you an establish defenseman. defenseman are hard to come by or to trade for. you would need to give up james neal for alex goligoski
Hopefully things pan out for us with regards to this next draft. I feel independant of who we pick there are risks but if they become the player the are projected to become this will change our franchise.
- We have in pacioretty a guy capable of scroring 40G in our lineup.
- A skilled offensive D (Subban)
- A Hard Hitting Dman (Emelin)
- A crafty Center (Desharnais)
- A top 10 Goalie
There is a lot to build from ... I am hoping now that we have a top line that we start building a new one...
Leblanc, Eller and Yakupov/Forsberg/Galchenyuk would be fine by me...
Not sure about Pacioretty scoring 40, for all we know 30 goals is a career year. He is a nice building block but let's not get carried away.
Are Grigorenko or Galchenyuk really any better than Couturier? 2011 was seen as a weak draft but it seems more and more like a pretty good one.
Grigorenko has more high end skill but Couturier is more well rounded and a much much safer pick. In terms of overall value it's pretty close.
Galchenyuk is similar to Couturier, maybe a bit more high end skill but a bit smaller. Without his injury he may be ahead or challenging Yakupov for #1.
Grigorenko has more high end skill but Couturier is more well rounded and a much much safer pick. In terms of overall value it's pretty close.
Galchenyuk is similar to Couturier, maybe a bit more high end skill but a bit smaller. Without his injury he may be ahead or challenging Yakupov for #1.
Yeah I agree. I've watched Sarnia play last year to see Nail and I was very impressed by Galchenyuk
I think 2011 was seen as weak in top end ability, but overall deep. Guys like Saad, Granlund, Jurco being second rounders speaks volume.
The fact that Beaulieu fell to us alone shows the drafts depth, as far as defensive prospects go it was basically Larsson, then Hamilton, then about 5 guys on the same level.
Grigorenko has more high end skill but Couturier is more well rounded and a much much safer pick. In terms of overall value it's pretty close.
Galchenyuk is similar to Couturier, maybe a bit more high end skill but a bit smaller. Without his injury he may be ahead or challenging Yakupov for #1.
He'll be Timmins' pick. I'd put money on it (galchenyuk that is)
Last edited by Halifaxhab: 03-09-2012 at 12:41 PM.
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He'll be Timmins' pick. I'd put money on it (galchenyuk that is)
I agree. I think when the dust all settles and the final selections made, Galchenyuk will be a Hab. I might add that he's my pick so maybe I'm a bit biased.
