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Ten years from now who will be considered the better goal scorer?

View Poll Results: Ten years from now who will be considered the better goal scorer?
Alex Ovechkin 32 21.05%
Steven Stamkos 120 78.95%
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03-04-2012, 06:41 PM
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Stamkos is to committed to getting better, Ovechkin seems fine with how he is doing.

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Also, agreed with what I hope you meant, in Stamkos.

Not sure what happened to Ovy, and I hope he can snap out of it and be the player we've all seen, but I think even if this happens he won't beat Stamkos.

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Whoever has more goals.

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Who knows. Not going to vote. Polls like this are pointless. People here are saying Stamkos will be scoring atleast 40 a season for a while, but they forget that everyone said OVI would do the same, and look what's happened.

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The question is, in ten years; looking back who will be considered the better goal scorer of the two. OV will more than likely be retired or close and Stamkos should be past his prime.
In that case I may give the edge to Ovechkin in terms of pure goal scoring.

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03-04-2012, 08:49 PM
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Assuming Stamkos avoids any severe injuries, he's got the play style that will allow him to score goals for a very long time at a very high rate. He has speed and a sick shot, but the most important thing is he has the knack for finding the open area and burying the shot. He won't have the highlight reel that Ovi has (unless you REALLY like one-timers), but he should probably put up big numbers for awhile.

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03-05-2012, 12:45 AM
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I just don't see Stamkos becoming a 30 goal scorer for back to back years during his "prime"
Pretty sure noone saw Ovechkin becoming that either.

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03-05-2012, 01:51 AM
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Pretty sure noone saw Ovechkin becoming that either.
Pretty sure anyone who saw his off season "training" might have had an inkling.

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03-05-2012, 08:00 AM
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I can see Stammer putting up about 50 goal seasons for the next 10 years. I think most people would be shocked OV ever did that again.

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03-05-2012, 08:13 AM
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Ovechkin peak was better, but I think Stamkos is going to string together a more impressive run before declining. But as we've seen, anything can happen. I thought Ovechkin was going to be 35 before he started producing as poorly as he is now.

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03-05-2012, 04:01 PM
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Ovechkin had 65 goals in a season. Unless Stamkos can top that, Ovechkin will stay the most profilic goal scorer post-lockout for me.

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Ovechkin had 65 goals in a season. Unless Stamkos can top that, Ovechkin will stay the most profilic goal scorer post-lockout for me.
You're basing their careers off of 1 season? Cool.

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03-05-2012, 07:59 PM
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Most goalscorers hit their prime at around 24-25, then get progressively worse. Considering Stamkos is 22 years now, with one 40+ season and one, soon to be two, 50+ goal seasons, I vote for him. Ovi has already peaked, and I highly doubt he will ever reach 50 again, let alone 40. AO is more of a goalscorer who needs speed and strenght to score his goals, Stamkos is unbelievable when it comes to find open areas around the slot and the crease. He is alot like Selänne, always at the right spot in the right time. Therefore he should score 30+ goals even in his mid 30s, Ovechkin won't be close to that.
Hate to be THATY guy but here's what "let alone" means. Let Alone definition. That should be "I highly doubt he will ever reach 40 again, let alone 50." Sorry Pet Peeve.

Anyway, who's to say Stamkos does have a fall like Ovechkin? Who could have seen Ovechkin's fall from grace?

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03-05-2012, 08:29 PM
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I read the question as who will be considered to have had the better goal scoring career when it's all said and done and not who will be the better goal scorer in 2022.

I said Ovechkin because Stamkos still has a lot of catching up to do. It's not unfathomable he'll start to slow down soon. Goal scorers do often peak young.

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Stamkos.. he's still improving while Ovie.. well.. big question mark.

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Who knows. Not going to vote. Polls like this are pointless. People here are saying Stamkos will be scoring atleast 40 a season for a while, but they forget that everyone said OVI would do the same, and look what's happened.
true but I think its evident that Stamkos and Ovechkin are 2 different people worth ethic wise. We have all seen the pictures of Ovechkin and he is out of shape. I dont know how people argue that or defend that. His bodyfat percentage is high. He used to be pretty dam lean at 20-22. At the age of 26 you shouldnt have gained that much fat. You should be pretty much as lean.

Also Stamkos is inventing his game all the time. Hes scoring many different ways. If someone would have told you before the season that Stamkos had 10 PP goals 66 games into the season most would think he would only have 20-25ish goals. Its not the case.

As many have said he doesnt rely on speed and power as much as ovy to score goals. And with Stamkos's work ethic, I dont expect his speed to decrease for a long time. Look at Martin St. Louis. Hes 36 years old and his speed is still close to his prime. Marty and Steven have similar work ethics. Of course Stamkos could suffer severe injuries, but thats the only way I see him slowing down.


Yes many people said Ovechkin would score many goals for years to come but to be honest I kinda seen this coming. Hes to big of a rock star. Stamkos's work ethic wont be going anywhere.

Book this guy for 40+ until hes 30 years old.

My prediction He has 500+ before hes 30.

I mean hes probably going to have 210ish goals before his 23rd birthday.


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My god is Ovechkin actually 27 now? That blows my mind
And people say he's passed his prime...

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You're basing their careers off of 1 season? Cool.
Jesus Christ are you being stupid just for the sake of it? I was just highlighting his amazing 65 goal season as a pinnacle of his career so far. He has had 3 (112p, 110p, 109p) seasons that trump Stamkos' any season to date. Stamkos is a great player but I don't think he'll ever be as good as Ovechkin at his absolute peak few years ago.

People forget so fast it's laughable

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If Ovi returns to his old form then Ovi all the way. If not, then it seems like Stamkos keeps improving while Ovi seems to be regressing.

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Ovi will rebound next season with proper training this summer. Pure goalscorers tend to cool off quickly but can also rebound quickly.

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I did a search for "Stamos NHL", and this is what came up.

So...here:



Also, agreed with what I hope you meant, in Stamkos.

Not sure what happened to Ovy, and I hope he can snap out of it and be the player we've all seen, but I think even if this happens he won't beat Stamkos.
John stamos is the 90's Kris letang.

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Hate to be THATY guy but here's what "let alone" means. Let Alone definition. That should be "I highly doubt he will ever reach 40 again, let alone 50." Sorry Pet Peeve.

Anyway, who's to say Stamkos does have a fall like Ovechkin? Who could have seen Ovechkin's fall from grace?
hahaha, thank you for pointing that out as I didn't want to be THAT guy. It's a mistake that is made quite frequently on this site so cheers.

Anyway, Stamkos still has work to do to match Ovy. But if you exclude Stammers 18 yo season (as Ovy never had one), there totals are remarkably similar especially if Stammer hits 60 goals this year (adjusts pretty close to 65 I would think given decreases in scoring. To match Ovy's impressive run, Stamkos still needs 2 more consecutive 55 goal seasons before tailing off. He seems like a stud today, but with decreases in scoring it seems like a tall order to get those 2 more 50+ to tie and maybe one more so people can say "his peak as a goal scorer was just as high and a little longer". It sure is easy to forget how high Ovy was a couple years back.

Now for the prediction, I don't think Stammer will drop off as much and continue to notch 40+ season after season after season for another 5 years. I think, when it is all said and done, he will score more than Ovy due to his training (and I think partly his shorter contract). However, Ovy will be remembered for the more dominant peak.

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This is always what have you done for me lately.

I'll vote Stamkos, because he is having a better year, and that is all that matters when predicting the next 10.

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