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03-09-2012, 02:06 PM
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Doing no research whatsoever....I thought all ELC's are 600k (or the minimum salary). Then there are different bonuses...games played, pts, and awards etc.

So if you've got a case for being a calder candidate and can get 50-60 pts or something then you get two different bonuses added on which brings the cap hit up or over 3.0m.

For defenseman the bonus is usually much less because it is limited to games played/pts....and usually not awards related.

Can't remember where if I read that or if I made it up...

Anyway, to me it makes sense that Schenn/Kuznetsov/Granlund would have heavy bonuses on their contracts...since they were/are the best unsigned prospects at the time and come into the league as rookie scoring favourites.

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If they dont sign him this summer he goes back into the draft.
Not true for Europeans IIRC. The 2 year rule only applies to players in North America.

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If they dont sign him this summer he goes back into the draft.
Meh, I would have traded his rights then. The only way I pay a rookie 3M is if theyre are a guaranteed can't miss prospect like Hall, Malkin, Crosby, Kane all were. Granlund could be a huge bust in this league.

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1st round
1 Columbus: Nail Yakupov
2 Edmonton: Mikhail Grigorenko -----> Traded to Toronto
3 Montreal: Alex Galchenyuk
4 Washington (f/Carolina): Ryan Murray ------> Traded to Anaheim
5 Phoenix (f/NY Islanders): Matthew Dumba
6 Minnesota: Jacob Trouba
7 Vancouver (f/Anaheim): Filip Forsberg
8 Toronto: Griffin Reinhart
9 Buffalo: Morgan Reilly
10 Tampa Bay: Radek Faksa
11 Calgary: Cody Ceci
12 Washington: Sebastian Collberg
13 Carolina (f/Colorado): Zemgus Grigensons
14 Winnipeg: Olli Maata
15 Florida (f/Los Angeles): Brendan Gaunce
16 Los Angeles (f/Florida): Derrick Pouliot
17 San Jose: Brady Skjei
18 Dallas: Slater Koekkoek
19 Pittsburgh (f/Phoenix): Andrei Vasilevski
20 Ottawa: Matt Finn
21 New Jersey: Austin Czarnik
22 Chicago: Henrik Samuelsson
23 Columbus (f/Philadelphia): Pontus Aberg
24 Carolina (f/Pittsburgh): Martin Frk
25 Tampa Bay (f/Detroit): Stefan Matteau
26 St. Louis: Teuvo Teravainen
27 Boston: Jarrod Maidens
28 Vancouver: Malcolm Subban
29 NY Rangers: Ludvig Bystrom
30 Buffalo (f/Nashville): Tomas Hertl



2nd round
31 Columbus: Oscar Dansk
32 Edmonton: Dalton Thrower
33 Montreal: Tom Wilson
34 Carolina: Nick Ebert
35 NY Islanders: Ville Pokka
36 Tampa Bay (f/Minnesota): Daniil Zharkov
37 Colorado (f/Anaheim): Colton Sissons
38 Calgary (f/Toronto): Brian Hart
39 Buffalo: Hampus Lindholm
40 Tampa Bay: Patrick Sieloff
41 Buffalo (f/Calgary): Tanner Pearson
42 Minnesota (f/Washington): Timothy Bozon
43 Philadelphia (f/Colorado): Scott Kosmachuk
44 Winnipeg: Phil Di Giuseppe
45 Colorado (f/Los Angeles): Jordan Schmaltz
46 Florida
47 Calgary (f/San Jose)
48 Calgary (f/Dallas)
49 Phoenix
50 Columbus (f/Ottawa)

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Not true for Europeans IIRC. The 2 year rule only applies to players in North America.
Ive seen Wild fans talking about it on their board.

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damnit nabob's pms are full.

We'll give Florida 4 hours.

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Ive seen Wild fans talking about it on their board.
Hmmm doesn't make sense. It's like Omark and Mikhnov's rights were Edmontons for years and years without being signed.

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It's almost unheard of for any player not drafted top5 to receive Group "B" bonuses.

Like, it's basically impossible to find.

The max ELC without Group "B" bonuses would be $925k + 92.5k S. Bonus + $850k Group "A" bonuses = $1.867.5M/year.

Guys like Jacob Markstrom and OEL were top5 prospects in the world when they signed their ELCs and they didn't even get a max Group "A" contract. Same for a guy like Jeff Skinner.


Also, Granlund has stated multiple times that he wants to sign with the Wild. So I'm not sure why the Wild would have to give him a contract that is never given just to get him to come to NA now.

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Hmmm doesn't make sense. It's like Omark and Mikhnov's rights were Edmontons for years and years without being signed.
I found this.......

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European Players - Prior to 2005, NHL teams retained the rights to a European player until that player turned 31. Drafted Europeans must now be signed within two years, the same as North Americans, or the team loses the rights to the player.
http://proicehockey.about.com/od/pro...raft-Works.htm

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Now that makes sense

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It's almost unheard of for any player not drafted top5 to receive Group "B" bonuses.

Like, it's basically impossible to find.

The max ELC without Group "B" bonuses would be $925k + 92.5k S. Bonus + $850k Group "A" bonuses = $1.867.5M/year.

Guys like Jacob Markstrom and OEL were top5 prospects in the world when they signed their ELCs and they didn't even get a max Group "A" contract. Same for a guy like Jeff Skinner.


Also, Granlund has stated multiple times that he wants to sign with the Wild. So I'm not sure why the Wild would have to give him a contract that is never given just to get him to come to NA now.
Thank you for providing these numbers.

I have no problem reducing the caphit on Granlund's contract if that's what people want. So 1.88 million is a fair number?

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Thank you for providing these numbers.

I have no problem reducing the caphit on Granlund's contract if that's what people want. So 1.88 million is a fair number?
Makes it a lot more realistic IMO.

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The other ELC I gave that might be too high is Etem. I gave him 2. Should we make that 1.88 as well?

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The other ELC I gave that might be too high is Etem. I gave him 2. Should we make that 1.88 as well?
I would think he would get something closer to $1.4-1.5M.

Basically the same ELC as Eberle, but with 2011/12 CBA #s.

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I would think he would get something closer to $1.4-1.5M.

Basically the same ELC as Eberle, but with 2011/12 CBA #s.
1.5 sounds good then. Okay thanks.

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The other ELC I gave that might be too high is Etem. I gave him 2. Should we make that 1.88 as well?
doesnt etem already have a contract?

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doesnt etem already have a contract?
Googled it, you are right. Shiiiiiit. I know I searched for Galiev's and found his but not Etem. My bad.

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Also to note Gudbranson will not be traded for overpriced, struggling, 3rd line former mid 1st round pics.

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LW Nicolas Kerdiles – USNTDP (USHL)

DOB: Jan. 11/94 | Shoots: L | Height: 6.09 | Weight: 270lbs

Kerdiles continues to develop steadily into a productive offensive player. He has the necessary skating, shooting and puck skills to compete at the highest level. Kerdiles also does the little things well such as protecting the puck in traffic and possessing a nose for the net. Kerdiles will contribute defensively as he has the awareness to keep on the defensive side of the puck and maintains discipline and positioning in the defensive zone and on the forecheck. A strong U18 Championship could make Kerdiles this year’s JT Miller.

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Those measurements are way off lol.

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And he is no JT Miller.

Lets get serious.

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Pick is fine where can i find the roster and picks i have?
CAP GEEK.

And the picks should be on the first page of the thread....third or fourth post.

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Calgary has the next 2 picks



2012 NHL Draft

1st round
1 Columbus: Nail Yakupov
2 Edmonton: Mikhail Grigorenko -----> Traded to Toronto
3 Montreal: Alex Galchenyuk
4 Washington (f/Carolina): Ryan Murray ------> Traded to Anaheim
5 Phoenix (f/NY Islanders): Matthew Dumba
6 Minnesota: Jacob Trouba
7 Vancouver (f/Anaheim): Filip Forsberg
8 Toronto: Griffin Reinhart
9 Buffalo: Morgan Reilly
10 Tampa Bay: Radek Faksa
11 Calgary: Cody Ceci
12 Washington: Sebastian Collberg
13 Carolina (f/Colorado): Zemgus Grigensons
14 Winnipeg: Olli Maata
15 Florida (f/Los Angeles): Brendan Gaunce
16 Los Angeles (f/Florida): Derrick Pouliot
17 San Jose: Brady Skjei
18 Dallas: Slater Koekkoek
19 Pittsburgh (f/Phoenix): Andrei Vasilevski
20 Ottawa: Matt Finn
21 New Jersey: Austin Czarnik
22 Chicago: Henrik Samuelsson
23 Columbus (f/Philadelphia): Pontus Aberg
24 Carolina (f/Pittsburgh): Martin Frk
25 Tampa Bay (f/Detroit): Stefan Matteau
26 St. Louis: Teuvo Teravainen
27 Boston: Jarrod Maidens
28 Vancouver: Malcolm Subban
29 NY Rangers: Ludvig Bystrom
30 Buffalo (f/Nashville): Tomas Hertl



2nd round
31 Columbus: Oscar Dansk
32 Edmonton: Dalton Thrower
33 Montreal: Tom Wilson
34 Carolina: Nick Ebert
35 NY Islanders: Ville Pokka
36 Tampa Bay (f/Minnesota): Daniil Zharkov
37 Colorado (f/Anaheim): Colton Sissons
38 Calgary (f/Toronto): Brian Hart
39 Buffalo: Hampus Lindholm
40 Tampa Bay: Patrick Sieloff
41 Buffalo (f/Calgary): Tanner Pearson
42 Minnesota (f/Washington): Timothy Bozon
43 Philadelphia (f/Colorado): Scott Kosmachuk
44 Winnipeg: Phil Di Giuseppe
45 Colorado (f/Los Angeles): Jordan Schmaltz
46 Florida: Nicolas Kerdiles
47 Calgary (f/San Jose)
48 Calgary (f/Dallas)
49 Phoenix
50 Columbus (f/Ottawa)
51 New Jersey
52 Chicago
53 Tampa Bay (f/Philadelphia)
54 NY Islanders (f/Pittsburgh)
55 San Jose
56 Detroit
57 St. Louis
58 Washington (f/Boston)
59 Toronto (f/Vancouver)
60 NY Rangers
61 Montreal (f/Nashville)

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Pick is fine where can i find the roster and picks i have?
This is where the team rosters are...........

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1125907

Not sure if Winnipeg has one yet. You could quote one that is already made and copy/paste/fill in your own info.

At least that is what I did for the most part.

Use Cap Geek for your roster, you can scan the first post in this thread to see if any trades were made by Winnipeg and adjust accordingly.

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1126409




This site will tell you what picks you have........

http://www.prosportstransactions.com...uture/Jets.htm

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