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02-28-2012, 06:00 PM
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Is Hagelin "untouchable?"

Hags made a splash since day 1 wearing a Rangers uniform, with his breathtaking speed and skating. But he's really established himself as a complete player, doing the backchecking, battling on the boards, and as of late, really starting to turn it on as a scorer. With his youth and potential upside, would it be fair to say that he's become an untouchable commodity on the roster?

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02-28-2012, 06:02 PM
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aside from Henrik Lundqvist, nobody is untouchable. its all about what teams are willing to give back to us for Hagelin.

Would you say no to say JT for Hagelin? No, nobody would, nor should they.

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Anyone can be dealt for the right return.

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02-28-2012, 06:08 PM
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I wouldn't say he is untouchable.

Us Ranger fans tend to fall in love with the kids we draft, and rightfully so. But for the right deal I would move him, and many other Ranger "untouchables".

With that said, I do love what he is brining to our team as a rookie, and look forward to seeing him develop in Ranger blue.

I would say only Lundqvist and Callahan are untouchables.

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02-28-2012, 06:11 PM
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Anyone can be dealt for the right return.
if Dallas offered us Loui Eriksson, he is available

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Nah, but it would take an overpayment for another team to snag him.

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no. very few players are.

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He's not even close to untouchable.

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Lundqvist is the only true untouchable.

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No, but it's almost impossible that he's traded.

Why?

Because his trade value isn't even half of his value to the team. What we'd get for him wouldn't be in the same ballpark as what he brings.

Not untouchable, but he might as well be.

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He's not even close to untouchable.
basically this. For all we know it can be more of a "flash in the pan" ala Prucha, and just drift off next year. Also he has been up for not even a whole season, he is no where near untouchable on this team. Personally: Lundqvist, McD, Cally, Staal and to a extent MDZ are untouchable, but as mentioned previously, everyone is replacable with the right offer.

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I see what you guys mean. Maybe "untouchable" wasn't the best term to use. Of course, if you have the opportunity to pull off an insane deal that can get you the likes of Stamkos w/o breaking the bank but Haglin had to be one of the pieces involved, one can never say never. But what are the chances of that happening?

Still, I've seen a lot of Ranger prospects come and go over the years. And I have a good feeling that Hags will develop into something really special.

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02-28-2012, 06:25 PM
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Echoing the "Hank is the only untouchable" sentiment.

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Who replaces Hagelin's speed? He adds a dimension to this team that opposing teams have to worry about when they draw up their game plan. He can beat out icing calls, he gets on the opposing players backs faster than they expect which forces turnovers.

Its similar to how callahan provides leadership, grit, pk ability, shot blocking, hitting, forechecking, and scoring.

Are these guys untouchables? No...but theyre damn near close to it. Hagelin has 11 goals in 43 GP. He missed 18 games playing in CT. He could be closing in on 20 right now, who knows. But that is pretty damn impressive for a 1st year rookie

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Nah, but it would take an overpayment for another team to snag him.
I agree. His value to us is probably greater than it is in a trade.

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No he isn't untouchable. The only true untouchable is Lundqvist.

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Hank is the only untouchable? I'd argue that right now, besides him, McDonagh is the guy I would NEVER trade, Stepan is close.

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Many are saying Lundqvist is the only untouchable, while in my previous most I mentioned Callahan as well.

Obviously there are better players around the league then Cally, but I just can't see a realistic trade in which we would consider trading him.

He is our captain, and the heart and soul of this team. We feed off his energy.

What kind of realistic deal would you even consider trading him?

That is why I added him with Lundqvist as untouchables.

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Hank is the only untouchable? I'd argue that right now, besides him, McDonagh is the guy I would NEVER trade, Stepan is close.
I agree, McDonagh is in that boat along with Hank. Hagelin - not so much. At least not yet

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Not yet/ Not.. He brings the 110% effort. scores and backchecks, very nice. Callahan, Lundqvist and Girardi/McD are our untouchables.

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I'd say McDonagh is untouchable also. Usually it takes longer for defensemen to develop, but this guy was playing 2nd pairing minutes at age 21 and is now playing top pairing minutes at age 22. He is a guy that you would regret trading in 5 or 6 years when he is at the top of his game (I'm sure the Habs will, LOL).

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No, not "untouchable". But he would never be traded. He's worth much more to the Rangers than he would be to any other team. Someone would have to make a gross overpayment and I don't see that happening.

Hags is going to be quite good. I see future 25-goal scorer written all over him.

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I wouldn't say he is untouchable.

Us Ranger fans tend to fall in love with the kids we draft, and rightfully so. But for the right deal I would move him, and many other Ranger "untouchables".

With that said, I do love what he is brining to our team as a rookie, and look forward to seeing him develop in Ranger blue.

I would say only Lundqvist and Callahan are untouchables.
You wouldn't trade Callahan for Malkin for example?

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02-28-2012, 08:15 PM
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You wouldn't trade Callahan for Malkin for example?
In my next post I mentioned how there are obviously better players then Callahan, just didn't see a realistic trade in which I would do it. Maybe some think otherwise, but I don't see Malkin being traded as a possibility.

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No, but the guy likely would have put up 50 points his rookie year while being an absolute maniac defensively and on the forecheck.

I have absolutely zero idea how far his potential will go. I was always blown away by his play in college, but it was just college. He's a fiend along the boards.

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