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05-11-2012, 11:15 PM
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He single-handedly won that Montreal series in 2008, while Carey Price did his best Philadelphia goalie impression.
that was umberger

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From a Nashville fan on the trade boards
I think Suter and next year Weber, will be looking for at least Yeith's contract of 13 years 72mm and possible Kovalchuk's of 15 years 100mm. The length would take Suter to 40-42.

Someone offering him as high as 90mm over 15 years is possible IMO.

I cannot imagine Nashville announcing two 72-100mm dollar contracts, let alone one. I know they had a great year attendance wise, but still.

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This would be the roster I would like (improbable, but I can hope):

Sign Suter longer term to get the cap hit down.
Sign Schultz.
Sign Gaustad.
Shelley to A.

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James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($3.500m)
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m)
Matt Read ($0.900m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m)
Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Paul Gaustad ($2.300m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m)
Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Ryan Suter ($6.000m)
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Justin Schultz ($2.000m)
Andreas Lilja ($0.738m) /
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Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
Sergei Bobrovsky ($1.750m)
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05-12-2012, 12:54 AM
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This would be the roster I would like (improbable, but I can hope):

Sign Suter longer term to get the cap hit down.
Sign Schultz.
Sign Gaustad.
Shelley to A.

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR ROSTER
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James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($3.500m)
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m)
Matt Read ($0.900m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m)
Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Paul Gaustad ($2.300m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m)
Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Ryan Suter ($6.000m)
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Justin Schultz ($2.000m)
Andreas Lilja ($0.738m) /
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Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
Sergei Bobrovsky ($1.750m)
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SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,996,944; BONUSES: $3,555,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $3,056
We'd be completely boned from injuries with that much cap space left.

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05-12-2012, 01:13 AM
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We'd be completely boned from injuries with that much cap space left.
The max possible cap hit for Schultz is $1,775,000 and will likely be $925,000 because of the bonus cushion, so things are a bit more realistic if you use those numbers.

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He single-handedly won that Montreal series in 2008, while Carey Price did his best Philadelphia goalie impression.
no he didnt...lol

We could have had any decent goalie in net and beat MTL that year. All their shots came from the perimeter and they were too weak in front of our net to battle for position

if anyone "single-handedly" won us that series, it was Umberger

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05-12-2012, 08:03 AM
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We'd be completely boned from injuries with that much cap space left.
Pronger will most likely be going on LTIR, so it wouldn't matter anyway.

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James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($3.400m)
Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m) / Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m)
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)
Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m)
Tom Sestito ($0.600m) /
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Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m)
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Braydon Coburn ($4.500m)
Erik Gustafsson ($0.900m) / Codename X
Andreas Lilja ($0.738m) /
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Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
Sergei Bobrovsky ($1.750m)
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SALARY CAP: $67,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $60,096,944; BONUSES: $3,555,000
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $6,903,056

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05-12-2012, 12:18 PM
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no he didnt...lol

We could have had any decent goalie in net and beat MTL that year. All their shots came from the perimeter and they were too weak in front of our net to battle for position

if anyone "single-handedly" won us that series, it was Umberger
I don't believe he single-handedly won the series but Biron played great in that series. IIRC, he stole games 2 and 3.

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why is schenns cap hit so high? because he was picked 5th?

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why is schenns cap hit so high? because he was picked 5th?
Yes. Higher picks usually have larger bonuses.

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no he didnt...lol

We could have had any decent goalie in net and beat MTL that year. All their shots came from the perimeter and they were too weak in front of our net to battle for position

if anyone "single-handedly" won us that series, it was Umberger
some of those goals Umberger scored were awfull goals by Price in that series.
But using BP 1974 or JXC logic those goals were not Price's fault.

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why is schenns cap hit so high? because he was picked 5th?
schenns cap hit will be 1.75 unless he plays 25 mins in all 82 games

heres the article

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=377385

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05-12-2012, 02:00 PM
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no he didnt...lol

We could have had any decent goalie in net and beat MTL that year. All their shots came from the perimeter and they were too weak in front of our net to battle for position

if anyone "single-handedly" won us that series, it was Umberger
Biron and Umberger were the team's two most important players in that series. To dismiss Biron's performance is extremely disingenuous. Sure, the Habs were forced to the perimeter a lot, but they controlled a lot of the play in that series and had all kinds of glorious scoring chances on which Biron made plenty of big time saves. Even in the words of his own coach, Marty was the Flyers' best player.

The difference in that series was the play of Martin Biron vs. the play of Carey Price. You guys can disagree, but you'd be wrong.

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05-12-2012, 02:27 PM
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Eh, a simple roster if they feel like they only need a small (but large addition) trade.

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FORWARDS
Jakub Voracek ($3.300m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m) / Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m)
James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Scott Hartnell ($4.200m)
Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)
Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Ben Holmstrom ($0.750m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m)
Tom Sestito ($0.600m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m) /
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Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m)
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Ryan Suter ($6.500m)
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Erik Gustafsson ($0.900m)
Andreas Lilja ($0.738m) /
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Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
Sergei Bobrovsky ($1.750m)
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SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $67,246,944; BONUSES: $3,555,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,753,056
I think Ben Holmstrom could be a solid 4th line center. Kid is rock solid defensively. There is 1.753 mil of free space that you can use if you feel like you need a better 4th line center or another defender. Im guessing Suter will get around 6-6.5 mil with a long term deal 7-10 years.

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Eh, a simple roster if they feel like they only need a small (but large addition) trade.



I think Ben Holmstrom could be a solid 4th line center. Kid is rock solid defensively. There is 1.753 mil of free space that you can use if you feel like you need a better 4th line center or another defender. Im guessing Suter will get around 6-6.5 mil with a long term deal 7-10 years.
I'd say MAB is in before Gus (if MAB is re-signed).

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05-12-2012, 05:53 PM
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Biron and Umberger were the team's two most important players in that series. To dismiss Biron's performance is extremely disingenuous. Sure, the Habs were forced to the perimeter a lot, but they controlled a lot of the play in that series and had all kinds of glorious scoring chances on which Biron made plenty of big time saves. Even in the words of his own coach, Marty was the Flyers' best player.

The difference in that series was the play of Martin Biron vs. the play of Carey Price. You guys can disagree, but you'd be wrong.
I'm not saying Biron played bad. He played good, but Carey Price played like ****

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I'd say MAB is in before Gus (if MAB is re-signed).
Eh, I liked how Gus has played. Also has some playoff experience.

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05-12-2012, 10:18 PM
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Eh, I liked how Gus has played. Also has some playoff experience.
The problem is that Gus shies away from pressure, especially in his own zone, which showed up in the playoffs. MAB is more willing to take the body and I do think he does have a better shot from the point than Gus.

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What do you think it would take to trade for Erik Johnson's rights?

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05-12-2012, 10:32 PM
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The problem is that Gus shies away from pressure, especially in his own zone, which showed up in the playoffs. MAB is more willing to take the body and I do think he does have a better shot from the point than Gus.
Two totally different players. Bourdon might play better in his own zone (and I think thats debateable. If Gus played like he did the first 4 games in playoffs, he is easily a shoein over Bourdon. He played against Malkin and shut him totally down, while had some good plays against Parise.), but his puck moving skills and speed arent that good. Bourdon might have a better point shot, but Gustafsson can move the puck better than Bourdon (which I would love to see him on the point on the PP. He is a PP QB in college and the AHL. Would like to see him on the 2nd unit if Carle isnt here). Honestly, Gus is probably right behind Timonen and Carle moving the puck out of the zone and in the offensive zone. The only problem with Gus is that he isnt physical which Bourdon is. You dont need to be physical to be a good defender.


EDIT: Comes down to who you want more on the team. Big bruiser who has a slapshot, or a smooth skater who can move the puck.


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05-12-2012, 11:12 PM
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**I used the bonus cushion.

FORWARDS
James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Claude Giroux "C" ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($3.500m)
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Danny Briere "A" ($6.500m)
Matt Read ($0.900m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m)
Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Paul Gaustad ($2.500m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m)
Jody Shelley ($1.100m) /

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Ryan Suter ($7.000m) / Kimmo Timonen "A" ($6.333m)
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Justin Schultz ($1.775m)
Andreas Lilja ($0.738m) /

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Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
Sergei Bobrovsky ($1.750m)

SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $70,527,500; BONUSES: $3,555,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $2,027,500

With Schenn's bonus being unattainable, his cap hit will drop significantly. I also wouldn't be opposed to dealing Bobrovsky away and getting a more seasoned veteran with a cheaper cap hit. Someone with a tremendous work ethic and a calming presence who could help Bryzgalov focus solely on improving his play and not letting the media and fans get to him - maybe Biron?


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05-13-2012, 08:19 AM
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seeing Giroux as captain gives me a terrible feeling in my stomach. not because he doesnt deserve it, but because all of our captains have been cursed

Pronger - seriously injured, career over
Richards - immaturity, traded
Smith - injuries/old, let go
Forsberg - injuries, traded
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No C for Giroux yet. The spotlight on him is large enough already, no need for extra hassle due to duties of captaincy. Give it to Briere or Timonen, Giroux will be fine with an A.

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Yea, dont know if he should get it yet, BUT it seems like all the players are behind him if a new captain is made according to the recent articles.

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