In a perfect world for me this off-season we would:
- Draft Grigorenko 2nd overall.
- Package centring around Gagner to get a 2/3/4 defenseman. (If we can land a big fish I'd have no problem giving up Gagner, Paajarvi +)
- Sign Ryan Suter
- I have no idea what to do about the goaltending situation. Since I said in a perfect world so I'd like to see us get Vokoun or Harding and somehow offload Khabi.
Hypothetical question, which would you rather do? First things first assume we have the #2 overall pick.
Situation A) Trade package around #2 overall pick to get a top pairing d-man
Situation B) Trade package around Gagner to get a #3 dman
Definitely B for me....
Though if Stu is sold on Murray, then I'd rather trade down with MTL and draft Murray. It does appear there is a perceived separation happening with the top-2 picks.
I understand the nail is skilled but if we won the lottery i hope we trade down to second with BJ's and get like a 3rd rounder off them instead of drafting another small dude i really want grig any guy that plays through a high ankle sprain for his team has heart even if the morons at tsn think being a little slow on a bad food means he isnt trying.
I understand the nail is skilled but if we won the lottery i hope we trade down to second with BJ's and get like a 3rd rounder off them instead of drafting another small dude i really want grig any guy that plays through a high ankle sprain for his team has heart even if the morons at tsn think being a little slow on a bad food means he isnt trying.
Im sorry but a 3rd rounder doesn't cut it. More from columbus.
I understand the nail is skilled but if we won the lottery i hope we trade down to second with BJ's and get like a 3rd rounder off them instead of drafting another small dude i really want grig any guy that plays through a high ankle sprain for his team has heart even if the morons at tsn think being a little slow on a bad food means he isnt trying.
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Im sorry but a 3rd rounder doesn't cut it. More from columbus.
I would want a big overpayment for #1. Wonder if Isles would give their pick and Nino or Hamonic?
Does anyone think Subban could be available if our 1st is on the table this year? I'm not sure the extent of the in-team fighting and if it is all water under the bridge now or not. This would give us a top pairing D-man now. Montreal would have a chance to replace Subban with their pick and get a potential big star up the middle.
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Does anyone think Subban could be available if our 1st is on the table this year? I'm not sure the extent of the in-team fighting and if it is all water under the bridge now or not. This would give us a top pairing D-man now. Montreal would have a chance to replace Subban with their pick and get a potential big star up the middle.
Does anyone think Subban could be available if our 1st is on the table this year? I'm not sure the extent of the in-team fighting and if it is all water under the bridge now or not. This would give us a top pairing D-man now. Montreal would have a chance to replace Subban with their pick and get a potential big star up the middle.
Does anyone think Subban could be available if our 1st is on the table this year? I'm not sure the extent of the in-team fighting and if it is all water under the bridge now or not. This would give us a top pairing D-man now. Montreal would have a chance to replace Subban with their pick and get a potential big star up the middle.
If Montreal realistically wanted to trade Subban, he would be available for less than the 2nd overall pick.
What do you think they would need to add to make it an even trade? He is still 22, so can definitely improve still as well.
I never really thought about it because as a poster above said. I'd rather draft Murray or Dumba over trading for Subban. Plus there isn't a lot on the Montreal roster that I'm interested in other than maybe their 1st but it definitely isn't worth PK for Montreal to move up a couple spots.
I never really thought about it because as a poster above said. I'd rather draft Murray or Dumba over trading for Subban. Plus there isn't a lot on the Montreal roster that I'm interested in other than maybe their 1st but it definitely isn't worth PK for Montreal to move up a couple spots.
This is where TV hype comes in. PK is flashy and on TV all the time, as the Habs are a major Eastern team, so eventually you get this inflated view of a player and his value. Also known as the Felix Potvin effect.
The more you're on national TV, the more your value gets inflated.
This is where TV hype comes in. PK is flashy and on TV all the time, as the Habs are a major Eastern team, so eventually you get this inflated view of a player and his value. Also known as the Felix Potvin effect.
The more you're on national TV, the more your value gets inflated.
I'm not sure I agree with that. Potvin was solid and I think on a different team could have been solid as well. No one out here thought he was top 10 or anything.
Are you saying Subban isn't that great? Would he not be in every teams top 4, and top 2 on most teams with the obvious exclusions such as Nashville? Taking an unknown on a draft pick could get you with someone much worse than Subban.
I'm not sure I agree with that. Potvin was solid and I think on a different team could have been solid as well. No one out here thought he was top 10 or anything.
Are you saying Subban isn't that great? Would he not be in every teams top 4, and top 2 on most teams with the obvious exclusions such as Nashville? Taking an unknown on a draft pick could get you with someone much worse than Subban.
Completely agree. I'm not sure what those folks are looking at or whether it's because it's the Canadiens, etc. Compare Subban to most of the good young D in the league and he's well up there, playing on a poor team at the moment.
I'd give it serious consideration if that offer was on the table...One in the hand and all that...
I'm not sure I agree with that. Potvin was solid and I think on a different team could have been solid as well. No one out here thought he was top 10 or anything.
Yeah, I disagree, people have this imagine of Potvin as one of the best of his generation, and he simple wasn't that. He was a middling goaltender who happened to play for the Leafs.
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Are you saying Subban isn't that great? Would he not be in every teams top 4, and top 2 on most teams with the obvious exclusions such as Nashville? Taking an unknown on a draft pick could get you with someone much worse than Subban.
No, he's not GREAT. He's a very good young defenseman with some issues in his game.
He probably would be top-4 on every team, so would Jack Johnson
Yeah, I disagree, people have this imagine of Potvin as one of the best of his generation, and he simple wasn't that. He was a middling goaltender who happened to play for the Leafs.
Same thing happened to Patrick Roy.
Back on topic Id rather take a chance on Murray or Rielly then give up the pick for Subban. Guy is very overated on HF.
