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03-05-2012, 09:30 AM
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Fenton just signed an extension when Poile did but he'd definitely be up there if made available.

I don't expect anything to change. They'll keep on running into a wall rather than reconsider their approach or properly self-evaluate their regressing overhyped core.

They'll add yet more promising young players while giving them zero in the way of quality character veteran mentors or anything resembling a developmental model.

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03-05-2012, 09:31 AM
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I am not opposed to Dale coming back. I think he deserves one more season (if he actually wants it).

On the other hand - presuming heads roll, including McPhee's - I think the new GM has every right to hand pick his new coach/staff.

As far as GM candidates, gotta go with someone who has won a SC and comes from a strong organization. Pluck anyone from Detroit, please. I'll even settle on their zamboni driver.

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you mean like dave lewis? be careful what you wish for.

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03-05-2012, 11:03 AM
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I don't buy the fact that any assistant GM wouldn't be available. Throw enough money at him, and his team won't stand in his way

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I'll never believe he "needed" to go. No one can convince me that he "needed" to go. Was **** not working? Yeah, it wasnt working. Guess what...make a deal or two to right the ship.

He was canned because these baby food eating little *****es can man the **** up and play solid hockey for stretches at a time. New coach comes in...same mentality deficient sad sap sacks of ****. It was never the ****ing coach. Its the goddamned players and after the stretch under Hunter, it should be ****ing obvious to those who never realized.


how do you really feel?

count me as one who didnt think the players, some at least, were as much a factor as they appear to actually be.

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03-05-2012, 01:21 PM
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Dallas Eakins sounds like an interesting option not sure how good of a fit he would be though (Thought Hunter was a pretty good fit)

I don't trust Mcphee to hire a good coach though.

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03-05-2012, 01:23 PM
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No thanks. They need someone with NHL coaching experience, just as they did when they made the nostalgia hire.

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03-05-2012, 01:28 PM
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No thanks. They need someone with NHL coaching experience, just as they did when they made the nostalgia hire.
I agree mostly, looking around at the options a lot of the coaches seem almost dated to me though. Unless I'm forgetting some obvious choice

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03-05-2012, 01:44 PM
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I agree mostly, looking around at the options a lot of the coaches seem almost dated to me though. Unless I'm forgetting some obvious choice
Experienced former NHL head coaches who had some success that are currently without an NHL job (not necessarily advocating all of them):

Bob Hartley
Andy Murray
Craig MacTavish
Jacques Lemaire
Guy Carbonneau
Jacques Martin
Paul Maurice
Marc Crawford
Michel Therrien
Ron Wilson

Plenty of experience available out there (and I might be missing a few, as well). Some might not necessarily be available, and some might not fit. But retread coaches aren't necessarily a bad thing. It's worked out well in plenty of situations throughout pro sports (Bill Belichick being the most notable example).

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Experienced former NHL head coaches who had some success that are currently without an NHL job (not necessarily advocating all of them):

Bob Hartley
Andy Murray
Craig MacTavish
Jacques Lemaire
Guy Carbonneau
Jacques Martin
Paul Maurice
Marc Crawford
Michel Therrien
Ron Wilson

Plenty of experience available out there (and I might be missing a few, as well). Some might not necessarily be available, and some might not fit. But retread coaches aren't necessarily a bad thing. It's worked out well in plenty of situations throughout pro sports (Bill Belichick being the most notable example).
I'm not worried if there retired or not. Out of that list I see two or three that are even remotely interesting. Good list though I'd forgotten about a couple of them.

I'm guessing will end up with a AJHL coach

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03-05-2012, 01:52 PM
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I'm not intimately familiar with all those guys' coaching styles, but it's pretty clear to me that the Caps need a guy who's detail-oriented and tight with his systems. There also needs to be a disciplinarian on staff (doesn't necessarily have to be the head coach).

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03-05-2012, 01:55 PM
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I'd like to keep Jim Johnson on as an assistant. Not sure how likely that is though. We need to hire a real coach and I would imagine they would want to choose their own staff.

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03-05-2012, 01:57 PM
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I'd like to keep Jim Johnson on as an assistant. Not sure how likely that is though. We need to hire a real coach and I would imagine they would want to choose their own staff.
Yep he might be the only positive with this mess.

He made Sarge only suck 50% of the time. I'd be interested to see what he could do with Green if he could stay healthy for a whole season

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03-05-2012, 01:58 PM
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Yeah, I'm sure they be able to choose their own assistants...as long as one of them is Evason.

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Yeah, I'm sure they be able to choose their own assistants...as long as one of them is Evason.

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What do you guys think of Therrien. Lead the pens to a cup final.

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What do you guys think of Therrien. Lead the pens to a cup final.
He's a guy with a short shelf life. Players will end up hating him before too long. Don't know if he's the kind of guy to push the right buttons before that happens, either, but I don't know what they're going for.

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What do you guys think of Therrien. Lead the pens to a cup final.
His former players have a real hate on for the guy.......personally I`m intrigued by Crawford, always have been.

I like the fire and he`s won a cup.
Also like Mactavish alot.

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What about Neil Smith for GM?

I know he got let go from the Isles, but that was due to Wang being...well a Wang.
Lafontaine quit the same day Smith was fired so he`s got the cred.

He traded for Mactavish for the Rangers Cup run, so I`m sure Mac T would be a top candidate.

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Wilson back to DC?

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Wilson back to DC?
Please No

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gm: craig patrick
coach: carlysle

i agree with warden on a coach that fits the core. i'd consider fedorov. but i would instead change the core to fit the available leadership. trade ovechkin and let semin walk.

but....if we want an experienced coach that fits the core. bengt gustafsson comes to mind
First time I've seen you finally make it clear you want Ovechkin traded. Noted..

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No thanks. They need someone with NHL coaching experience, just as they did when they made the nostalgia hire.
ahl is basically the same style of hockey as the nhl, now a jump from the ohl is drastic. i imagine most coaches start out in the ahl/chl so theres no reason to shy away

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I am not opposed to Dale coming back. I think he deserves one more season (if he actually wants it).

On the other hand - presuming heads roll, including McPhee's - I think the new GM has every right to hand pick his new coach/staff.

As far as GM candidates, gotta go with someone who has won a SC and comes from a strong organization. Pluck anyone from Detroit, please. I'll even settle on their zamboni driver.
2.37 - The Capitals' goals-per-game average under Dale Hunter. Only twice in franchise history has the team posted a lower average over the course of an entire season - 1974-75 (2.26) and 2003-04 (2.27).

Hate that this is happening Hunter, but it's ugly.

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His former players have a real hate on for the guy.......personally I`m intrigued by Crawford, always have been.

I like the fire and he`s won a cup.
Also like Mactavish alot.
Me too, I've always thought he would be decent to try out.

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