Is Clowe the best non-heavyweight fighter in the NHL?
I think he might be. He's just a beast, has 2 recorded losses over his last 25 fights. He can go toe to toe with some of the legit heavyweights in the NHL too.
He didn't beat Engelland in that fight, someone who has proven himself as a fighter moreso than Clowe.
I'd still take Engelland.
It was a close fight, i would call it a draw. England threw more but they weren't connecting, they both connected the same amount of punches. Neither had full control of the fight.
he is for sure up there... just hate to see him off the ice at time for 5 min... but he doesnt go after jokes he goes after the big guys and shows the team what they need to do...
as a Shark fan, the first time I noticed how much of a beast Clowe was, was during an Anaheim SJ game. Anaheim was pretty much dominationg, and Shawn Thornton took a run at Marleau, and Clowe answered. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O85g9cXQPyM&feature=fvst
the game turned after that point
as a Shark fan, the first time I noticed how much of a beast Clowe was, was during an Anaheim SJ game. Anaheim was pretty much dominationg, and Shawn Thornton took a run at Marleau, and Clowe answered. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O85g9cXQPyM&feature=fvst
the game turned after that point
Thornton is the same guy who gets beat by Rupp, gets KO'd by Carcillo and has no punching power. Let's see him go with a real fighter of his size, say McGrattan, and he won't be beastly. Good player and fighter though, just not that great.
It was a close fight, i would call it a draw. England threw more but they weren't connecting, they both connected the same amount of punches. Neither had full control of the fight.
Engelland threw more and landed slightly more along with giving Clowe a nice shiner. Clowe's freak strength meant that he was able to stop Engelland from landing more clean punches.
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Originally Posted by SunnyWarCloud
I don't think most of the posters in this thread have any clue what a heavyweight is. A guy who is 6'2" and 225 lbs is a heavyweight.
I tend to agree, he definitely has heavyweight strength maybe not true heavyweight punching power but enough to throw down with pretty much everyone in the league.
Matt carkner is only 4 pounds heavier then clowe...so i say carkner is a better lightweight then clowe... colton orr is 5 pounds lighter then clowe...orr>>> clowe...
Some people use fighting ability vs size to determinate heavyweights you know..
Tie Domi who was only 5.10 207 could be considered an heavyweight because he fought anybody. Milan Lucic who is 6.4 220 I would consider a Light-Heavyweight because despite his size he doesn't fight real heavyweights that often.
Wow some people need to relax. Maybe non-enforcer would have been a better choice of words, but you know what I meant.
That's all cool and dandy. No worries.
Just for future cases... "heavyweight" is a term gotten from boxing inferring about their weight, and nothing else. Not their fighting skill. Not how often they fight. Not who they fight. Weight only.
You can't just go around changing the meaning of the word. For example, in UFC, heavyweight is 205-265 lbs.
Though in UFC the weight seems to be skewed down too much in the light weights.
I would generally say in the nhl...
199 and under= lightweight
200-219= middleweight
220 and over= heavyweight
I'm sure most would agree ROUGHLY with those classes.
As 68 pointed out, it's not all based on weight when it comes to hockey fights. Domi is the best example of being a smaller guy who could be classified as a heavy. Go to hockeyfights.com and say Clowe is a heavyweight and prepared to get laughed off the board.
And Souray is a damn good fighter for a guy that doesn't do it often.