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03-05-2012, 11:41 AM
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The funny thing I find is nobody was making this excuse for Harti at the time or talking about it for several pages in a specific thread involving his callup. I doubt there even was a specific thread.
I wasn't aware of Harski's situation at the time. I'm only aware of Omark's situation now because Teemu made me sensitive to this sort of thing by writing a blog post about it after the fact.

And really the only reason we're having a multipage 'debate' about the subject is because you (and you alone, in case you didn't notice) decided to argue that it's a non-issue. If this had been Teemu's call-up, there'd be a page of people pointing out that the kid isn't really being put in a great position to succeed, and the thread would have ended there because there wouldn't be anyone with an irrational bias against the guy saying "That's not so hard! People in Fort MacMurray also work hard too!" or whatever particular nonsense it was ...

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these are professional athletes guys, 4 games in 4 days is not all that bad, they do practice almost everyday, im sure he will be fine. also im sure he took the bus/planes to his locales, he didnt run or ride a bike.
^this^

Theres a lot of team practice days that are as hard on players as a game is.

Plus how the hell does any Pro football player manage to get through several days of 2 a days at training camp without dying or something..

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I imagine they're calling him up to play top 6 tonight. They already know what he can do bottom 6 which is not much. Just hope he doesn't hold on to the puck all night and end up -3. Defense is the best offense for Linus right now. Some PP time would be nice too.

Hall's probably out at least a game or two or few.

Who cares how many games he's played in a row? He'll be jacked, he'll be intense, he'll be Linus. Hopefully he just uses his teammates and doesn't get too wound up and stays in the system. I'm excited to see him. You always see something with him good or bad.

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not expecting much from omark, but please don't pair him belanger. Does anyone know if renny has something against omark?
not specifically, he hates europe, all of it.

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Wow! 5 games in 4 nights! Now that's old time hockey!

Also, no one would be making any 'proactive excuses' if every single person on the Ducks and Oilers were in the same predicament as Omark. But they won't be.

Honest question: if this were Harski getting the callup, I'd be saying the exact same things I'm saying now. Can you say the same? Or is it just possible that you're letting your weird bias against Omark get the best of you and push you into taking your bizarre position that 'playing 4 games in 4 nights isn't so tough'?
I'm one of the guys that doesn't think Omark will ever be an everyday NHLer and the first thing I thought of was how the heck is he going to play 4 or 5 days in a row.

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I imagine they're calling him up to play top 6 tonight. They already know what he can do bottom six which is not much. Just hope he doesn't hold on to the puck all night and end up minus 3. Defense is the best offense for Linus right now. Some PP time would be nice too/

Hall's probably out at least a game or two or few.

Who cares how many games he's played in a row? He'll be jacked, he'll be intense, he'll be Linus. Hopefully he just uses his teammates and doesn't get too wound up and stays in the system.
Exactly. Its strange that I'm positive that Omark will be juiced and ready to play with fatigue being no problem whatsoever.

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The funny thing I find is nobody was making this excuse for Harti at the time or talking about it for several pages in a specific thread involving his callup. I doubt there even was a specific thread.
obviously because no one has been touting Harti as a top 10 talent in the universe therefore the need to protect their view with a hedged excuse is not needed.

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Honest question: if this were Harski getting the callup, I'd be saying the exact same things I'm saying now. Can you say the same? Or is it just possible that you're letting your weird bias against Omark get the best of you and push you into taking your bizarre position that 'playing 4 games in 4 nights isn't so tough'?
Judging from a couple posts in this thread a very similar thing DID happen to Harti when he was called up at one point. Did you make several posts at that time complaining about it?

Plus, how is my assertion that Omark will be completely fine, limbs all in in place, and have energy to play games indication of my negative bias.

I'm the one stating he'll be fine.

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right on, good for him. hopefully hall isnt out long and renney gives them some time on the same line finally

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obviously because no one has been touting Harti as a top 10 talent in the universe therefore the need to protect their view with a hedged excuse is not needed.
Yeah. That must be it. Obviously

Only on HFOIL can noting the difficulty of playing 4 or 5 back to back games be a controversial act.

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Not to mention Omark's only a short while removed from a lengthy injury recovery with his knee, is he not? That takes a serious toll on your stamina level.

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Wow! 5 games in 4 nights! Now that's old time hockey!
lol, just noted I kind of worded that wrong..

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The funny thing I find is nobody was making this excuse for Harti at the time or talking about it for several pages in a specific thread involving his callup. I doubt there even was a specific thread.
This is untrue. There were plenty of posts in that GDT about Harti playing his 4th game in 4 night around here and it was accepted as a reason why he didn't look good. That is how I found out he was playing his 4th in 4.

I am excited for Omark to come back up as well, but I too am not expecting much. Call it an excuse if you want Replacement, but I agree that 4 games in 4 days is a lot. If this were a player you actually liked being put in this situation you'd probably say the same thing too. I know you like to argue counter point to everything, but in this case you are way off base, imo. If it were no big deal as you are somehow suggesting, the NHL would have stretches of 3 and 4 games in subsequent nights.

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Judging from a couple posts in this thread a very similar thing DID happen to Harti when he was called up at one point. Did you make several posts at that time complaining about it?

Plus, how is my assertion that Omark will be completely fine, limbs all in in place, and have energy to play games indication of my negative bias.

I'm the one stating he'll be fine.
Of course you are. Because it helps fuel your confirmation bias that Omark is garbage. If you accepted that 4 in 4 is a lot then you couldn't rag on him when he looks lethargic out there tonight.

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Over/Under of 8 minutes of TOI tonight.

I'm going under.

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Judging from a couple posts in this thread a very similar thing DID happen to Harti when he was called up at one point. Did you make several posts at that time complaining about it?
As I stated earlier, I had no idea Teemu had played so many games in a row. I just thought he looked unmotivated and lazy out there -- nothing like the player I remembered from the end of last season. I only found out about the 5 games in 6 nights after the fact, which is why I'm sensitive to it now. We all saw what that kind of schedule did to Teemu's game. Didn't you?

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Plus, how is my assertion that Omark will be completely fine, limbs all in in place, and have energy to play games indication of my negative bias.

I'm the one stating he'll be fine.
Haha. Nice spin. You're arguing that a guy who is clearly facing a considerable disadvantage is facing no disadvantage at all. Yeah, you're right there in his corner.

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Judging from a couple posts in this thread a very similar thing DID happen to Harti when he was called up at one point. Did you make several posts at that time complaining about it?

Plus, how is my assertion that Omark will be completely fine, limbs all in in place, and have energy to play games indication of my negative bias.

I'm the one stating he'll be fine.
You're just saying that so you can rip on him tomorrow.

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this is good news. The Oilers can give Hall a week or two to get his shoulder back to 100% as wll as seeing if they have a player in Linus.

At some point in the near future, they have to make a decision on Linus. Is he a real NHL player or do we allow him to go back to Sweden?
What? I know that Hall hurt his shoulder a bit in the Dallas game but i didn't hear any news about him being out for any extended period of time.

Anyway, it'll be interesting to see where Omark fits into the lineup. Does he play on the line with RNH and Eberle?

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As I stated earlier, I had no idea Teemu had played so many games in a row. I just thought he looked unmotivated and lazy out there -- nothing like the player I remembered from the end of last season. I only found out about the 5 games in 6 nights after the fact, which is why I'm sensitive to it now. We all saw what that kind of schedule did to Teemu's game. Didn't you?



Haha. Nice spin. You're arguing that a guy who is clearly facing a considerable disadvantage is facing no disadvantage at all. Yeah, you're right there in his corner.
He'll do fine tonight. Should be able to have a decent game. I think he'll even look good.

Gawd, I'm with horrible bias..

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A bigger story/discussion should be Hall possibly missing more time with an injury to the same shoulder...

Scary in a Hemsky-like way, the kid plays hard every shift and isn't scared to go into traffic areas with the puck and thats what we love but it ends up getting him injured.

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I have never been an Omark supporter, I just don't think he his good enough. But he absolutlely has earned a shot to try and make a mark in the NHL. I would rather have him over Petrell in the top 6, fo sho, and being almost a pt per game player in his AHL time this year means that he is the #1 candidate!

I would like nothing more then to be proven wrong!

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Doesn't he have to go through waivers to send him back down pretty soon?

I thought i heard something like that

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Doesn't he have to go through waivers to send him back down pretty soon?

I thought i heard something like that
http://capgeek.com/waiver_calculator...009&Calculate=

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You're just saying that so you can rip on him tomorrow.
Well, I'd be upset if he was paired with Gagner and brought down the GA but other than that I'm fine.

Omark deserves a look and should be here. I've said many times I expect the Oilers to give him at least a 20game stint at the end of the year.

I was expecting the call up to be earlier than this and said so in past threads.

I'm terrible like that..

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It's actually 4 games, not 14.

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