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To those saying it was a scare tactic and that he is a pseudo tough guy, the guy is a beast. Sorry for the poor grammar too.
so he's a big guy, and he made you (a scorer and a much smaller player) his own personal project.
sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but you or someone on your team simply has to call him out on it. ignoring it doesn't seem to be an option, since you are here asking the question, saying how it bothered you. chirping is a part of the game, even in no-fighting leagues. don't be afraid of him. let him know you are not afraid of him. get your captain or alternates to back you up.
Physicality is just part of the game, gets people heated and irrational...
Unless you're a dirty beaking player, he should be cool the next time you see him
Physicality is just part of the game, gets people heated and irrational...
Unless you're a dirty beaking player, he should be cool the next time you see him
If the kid doesn't want to get hurt he should expect the guy to be looking for him. That way he knows when he's in position to get lined up to be prepared to get out of the way. If he comes into the game thinking everything is cool and the beast is still upset he'll get rocked. Keep your head up, expect contact, play your game and do what you can to help your team win. And just because he's big does not mean he can fight. When you watch MMA or boxing the bigger guy doesn't just automatically win every fight. Learn the term gentle giant, these guys get away with murder and then you come to find out they've never been in a fist fight because they were big. They're just as scared of being punched in the face as you are.
My main question was that I am going to get chirped and trash talked because of this for a long while and I do not know how to handle it when it comes to this situation
If you're the best scorer on your team/league, then you're going to get chirped and trash talked either way no matter what.
You won, right? Then that's how you handle it and respond.
When he challenges you to a fight, you skate back to the bench, drink some water, go out on your next shift, and score a goal that puts his team down by 5 goals, then quietly skate back to the bench until your next shift. That's how you respond.
This guy was chirping at you because you beat his team 11-3. Fighting and name-calling are all he has to cling to because hockey skill certainly isn't it.
If you're the best player, people are going to try to knock you off your game, and you'd better get used to that reality right now. Some will do it physically, some will do it verbally. If you mentally take yourself out of the game and/or go trading penalties with some scrub, then you're beating your own self and hurting your own team.
Keep your head up enough not to get seriously injured, defend yourself when/where necessary......but other than that, don't change your game. Don't stop going into the corners, don't stop forechecking hard, don't stop crashing the net. You're winning, and not just in the Charlie Sheen sense.
Not at 15, at least not here in the States. Bantam and Midget are full check and, as we all know, PeeWee was as well up until this year.
I guess it's different in the States and in Canada. In Canada most house leagues are non-contact at all ages. Contact hockey is mostly reserved for travel teams/teams that you have to try out for, house league is the equivalent of beer league for kids high school age and under. No tryouts (anyone who signs up in time can play), all games at one rink, kids divided to try to make teams as even as possible, and generally no contact. This is the case in big cities, at least, I have heard that that in rural areas it's more common to find house leagues that are more competitive, and more often full contact, but in cities most house leagues are low level, relaxed, non-contact hockey regardless of the age. In Ontario I believe contact was recently banned for all house leagues, but most of them were non-contact anyways before the ban.
Stand up for yourself. Most people (especially kids) are all talk. I bet he wouldn't even fight you.
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Originally Posted by ponder
I guess it's different in the States and in Canada. In Canada most house leagues are non-contact at all ages. Contact hockey is mostly reserved for travel teams/teams that you have to try out for, house league is the equivalent of beer league for kids high school age and under. No tryouts (anyone who signs up in time can play), all games at one rink, kids divided to try to make teams as even as possible, and generally no contact. This is the case in big cities, at least, I have heard that that in rural areas it's more common to find house leagues that are more competitive, and more often full contact, but in cities most house leagues are low level, relaxed, non-contact hockey regardless of the age. In Ontario I believe contact was recently banned for all house leagues, but most of them were non-contact anyways before the ban.
What? Hitting is allowed in all Canadian minor hockey leagues at the start of peewee (12-13) or bantam (14-15) as far as I know unless it is specifically a no contact league, and house league does have tryouts. In Alberta hitting starts at peewee and tryouts start in novice for house league.
Don't punk out! If you fight back and land some punches the guy will realize you are not going to take his **** and he is going to get hit for it. I play in a Christian (Most of us played high level hockey) league so odds are if we fight in our league we are destined for hell!
What? Hitting is allowed in all Canadian minor hockey leagues at the start of peewee (12-13) or bantam (14-15) as far as I know unless it is specifically a no contact league, and house league does have tryouts. In Alberta hitting starts at peewee and tryouts start in novice for house league.
This was not AT ALL the case in Toronto, where I grew up. All the house leagues I heard of within the city had no tryouts, and were non-contact, regardless of age, I can't describe it any better than as beer league for kids. I wouldn't be surprised if there were some house leagues in Toronto with tryouts and contact, but most were non-contact with no tryouts. Contact and tryouts were more for A, AA, AAA and high school hockey. Now it's the case that house league is non-contact throughout Ontario. Sounds like it's different in Alberta and the States, but clearly it depends on where you go.
This was not AT ALL the case in Toronto, where I grew up. All the house leagues I heard of within the city had no tryouts, and were non-contact, regardless of age, I can't describe it any better than as beer league for kids. I wouldn't be surprised if there were some house leagues in Toronto with tryouts and contact, but most were non-contact with no tryouts. Contact and tryouts were more for A, AA, AAA and high school hockey. Now it's the case that house league is non-contact throughout Ontario. Sounds like it's different in Alberta and the States, but clearly it depends on where you go.
That's really surprising, last year was my last year of midget, I played tier 1 which was the highest level of non rep hockey in Edmonton, and the games could get really chippy, even fights occasionally.
Sucks for Ontario kids, probably the same players playing rep every year regardless of talent because they have actually experienced contact.
yeah the new no checking rule came into place in 2012 as mentioned by another poster. They also recently ( two or three years ago ) took hitting out of Atom rep hockey in Saskatchewan and Ontario, the only two provinces who allowed it.
Back to the original post, agree, skate away from it and let it go on the ice. As for your team mates do they know what's gone on? they may only hear the guy chirping you on the ice but not really hear what is being said.
My oldest son just completed Bantam and will play Midget next year. I've told him as a bigger player on the team he needs to look out for his peers. Not put a guy on his ass or anything obvious, but make no bones about it let any other "tough" guy on the other team know nothing will happen while he's on the ice.
My worry for next year is the other guys thinking he's one of the 17 yr olds and challenging him based on that. He's 6-2 and 200+ now.
I have played A level this season and I can guarantee that he was stronger than 90% of the competition I played against in A. And this kid has gotten into fights before, I knew he was not bluffing if he was going to fight me.
This probably isn't the answer you want to hear, but it might help to pull the ref aside during warmups and let him know about it. Don't make a big production of it, but just mention that the guy has had it out for you the last couple of games and you'd appreciate it if he kept an eye out. Typically the ref will want to keep that stuff under control, so the guy will be on a short leash for penalties.
