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11-08-2004, 05:46 PM
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"W" is for Wolf Pack

Here's a nice story about our guys from the AHL.com ...

http://www.theahl.com/AHL/News/2004/11/08/705934.html

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Speaking of which, are they still talking about moving the Wolfpack to Atlantic City or is that off for now?

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Speaking of which, are they still talking about moving the Wolfpack to Atlantic City or is that off for now?
i've never heard about atlantic city so if you have a link or know more details i'd appreciated it...

there has been rumors that the rangers wanted to move them closer to nyc to create a setup similar to what the flyers have with the phantoms (the target location i heard was brooklyn), but i haven't heard anything more then rumblings and it seems like they are exploring it as a 'good idea' but really haven't gotten into it.

the current lease with the hartford civic center expires in 2007, so one would think that if they were seriously considering a move they would be working on it now so they would have the new home in place when the civic center lease expires...of course on the flipside, there is a major renovations in hartford right now that is supposed to be finished in 2007 and reportedly the wolfpack are expected to be a big part of the 'new' hartford. now that doesn't necessarily mean anything, but maybe cvc is banking on a new sweet deal after that renovation is complete.

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i've never heard about atlantic city so if you have a link or know more details i'd appreciated it...

there has been rumors that the rangers wanted to move them closer to nyc to create a setup similar to what the flyers have with the phantoms (the target location i heard was brooklyn), but i haven't heard anything more then rumblings and it seems like they are exploring it as a 'good idea' but really haven't gotten into it.

the current lease with the hartford civic center expires in 2007, so one would think that if they were seriously considering a move they would be working on it now so they would have the new home in place when the civic center lease expires...of course on the flipside, there is a major renovations in hartford right now that is supposed to be finished in 2007 and reportedly the wolfpack are expected to be a big part of the 'new' hartford. now that doesn't necessarily mean anything, but maybe cvc is banking on a new sweet deal after that renovation is complete.
Yeah, I also remember reading something about them looking to renovate to Brooklyn. That would be pretty damn sweet for several reasons...

1. It would make the fairweather Ranger fan (and the diehards as well) a little bit more knowledgable about some of our prospects and hockey in general. Because lets face it, most of the people who peruse this board and others like it are not the average Ranger fans. We're as diehard as they come. The average Ranger fan would not be able to name more than a handful number of our prospects, let alone make a top 40 ranking of them.

2. With New York being the most diverse city in the world, you would probably get alot of interest in the team. Not just from fans, but from some of our European prospects. I'm sure guys like Prucha and Lundqvist would be much more willing to cross the pond if they were playing in Brooklyn rather than Hartford.

Plus, I live in Brooklyn! So I'd get to see these guys play on a regular basis.

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11-08-2004, 09:17 PM
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i've never heard about atlantic city so if you have a link or know more details i'd appreciated it...
I know nothing about it, really... I just remember the possible relocation to Atlantic City being mentionned on TV a few years back during a game and it kinda stuck in my head for some reason, but I have no idea about the details... that's why I asked.

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Great to see they're finally getting some recognition. Let's hope they can keep it going.

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2. With New York being the most diverse city in the world, you would probably get alot of interest in the team. Not just from fans, but from some of our European prospects. I'm sure guys like Prucha and Lundqvist would be much more willing to cross the pond if they were playing in Brooklyn rather than Hartford.
Hartford is a really nice town, and probably has a lot lower crime rate than Brooklyn.


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Hartford is a really nice town, and probably has a lot less crime rate than Brooklyn.
Well, I wasnt really intending to paint Hartford as a 'bad town'. I've never even been there, so I shouldn't comment.

But since you brought it up, New York as a whole is actually a much safer place to live than Hartford. NYC was ranked 211th out of 230 cities across the nation on the total crime index, while Hartford's crime rates are above the national average in just about every crime category.

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I live in Brooklyn too and I was hoping they'd move to the new Atlantic Yards arena that the Nets will play in, but it will not happen and the reason is very simple.

I believe Dolan owns the Pack and moving them to the city would only serve to draw away people from high-priced MSG Ranger games to cheaper Pack games. Dolan ends up losing money on this deal. Believe me I wish it wasn't so.

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11-09-2004, 12:28 AM
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I live in Brooklyn too and I was hoping they'd move to the new Atlantic Yards arena that the Nets will play in, but it will not happen and the reason is very simple.

I believe Dolan owns the Pack and moving them to the city would only serve to draw away people from high-priced MSG Ranger games to cheaper Pack games. Dolan ends up losing money on this deal. Believe me I wish it wasn't so.
Flyers don't seem to have this problem. And with much smaller payroll I would expect Rangers to lower ticket prices.

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It's viable for the Flyers because they own both arenas. I don't think the Dolans will have any part in the Atlantic Yards and as non-owning tenants, will be paying major league rent to ice a minor league team. Given the historical rancor between Cablevision and YES Network, I doubt the Nets will be sharing facilities with a Dolan-owned team anytime soon. I think it's more likely that the Islanders move out of the decrepit Nassau Masoleum to Brooklyn (but still unlikely).

Atlantic City? That's further away than Hartford. And Hartford is still closer than most AHL teams are to their affiliates.

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Flyers don't seem to have this problem. And with much smaller payroll I would expect Rangers to lower ticket prices.
payroll has NOTHING to do with ticket prices, ticket prices will NOT be lowered because the payroll goes down

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It's viable for the Flyers because they own both arenas. I don't think the Dolans will have any part in the Atlantic Yards and as non-owning tenants, will be paying major league rent to ice a minor league team. Given the historical rancor between Cablevision and YES Network, I doubt the Nets will be sharing facilities with a Dolan-owned team anytime soon. I think it's more likely that the Islanders move out of the decrepit Nassau Masoleum to Brooklyn (but still unlikely).
Agreed on all counts. In fact Dolan is fighting the Atlantic Yards complex along with the West Side Stadium.

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And with much smaller payroll I would expect Rangers to lower ticket prices.
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11-09-2004, 01:48 PM
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payroll has NOTHING to do with ticket prices, ticket prices will NOT be lowered because the payroll goes down
ok I should say with fewer big name players, they will likely lower the ticket costs to attract more people to witness the great rebuilding.

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ok I should say with fewer big name players, they will likely lower the ticket costs to attract more people to witness the great rebuilding.
that is only if people stop buying tickets...they will charge the most that people are willing to pay, so if people/corporations continue to buy their tickets the ticket prices won't go down

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AC is actally closer to me, by an hour. It takes me 3 hours to get to Hartford, if I don't speed. AC is not a good place to put them. Hartford draws in a fair amount of people. They blocked off the top of the arena so they can sell more tickets. I know they had a sell out for their home opener. And I'm not suprised by this, but I think the Wolfpack have the highest ticket prices.

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ok I should say with fewer big name players, they will likely lower the ticket costs to attract more people to witness the great rebuilding.
Highly doubtfull. This is NYC. Ticket prices will only be lowered becuase of the Dolan promise on what would happne if they don't make the playoffs last year (I can't remember if he said that they would not rise or if he would lower them). The caliber of players on the team does not make one iota of difference. This is not a school-book economic model. This is real life.

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AC is actally closer to me, by an hour. It takes me 3 hours to get to Hartford, if I don't speed. AC is not a good place to put them. Hartford draws in a fair amount of people. They blocked off the top of the arena so they can sell more tickets. I know they had a sell out for their home opener. And I'm not suprised by this, but I think the Wolfpack have the highest ticket prices.
Agree on AC, it's tough to draw fans there because there isn't a huge permanent population...the Bullies have a very nice arena (their coach gave me a tour last season), but the fan base just isn't there.

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