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03-06-2012, 02:21 AM
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Just watched the highlights of the game and they didn't show the lack of calls. Does this mean that TSN is in on it too?

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How many goals does Taylor Hall have in comparison to Hemsky?

Taylor Hall plays with a lot more heart then Hemsky. There's no debating that!
Pennertration was talking about tonight I don't know what your point is.

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It was just a debacle of monumental proportions out there

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Just watched the highlights of the game and they didn't show the lack of calls. Does this mean that TSN is in on it too?
They're definitely drinking something. Remember the Hartnell knee on Paajarvi? Yeah. That night on TSN they were debating whether Potter's hit (!!! the play before Hartnell's dirty crap on Paajarvi!!!) on Hartnell was a dirty hit or not.

All the Hartnell charge and a knee got was a "Hartnell collides with Magnus Paajarvi. Paajarvi did not return to the hockey game," comment.

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They're definitely drinking something. Remember the Hartnell knee on Paajarvi? Yeah. That night on TSN they were debating whether Potter's hit (!!! the play before Hartnell's dirty crap on Paajarvi!!!) on Hartnell was a dirty hit or not.

All the Hartnell charge and a knee got was a "Hartnell collides with Magnus Paajarvi. Paajarvi did not return to the hockey game," comment.
That looked soooo savage when Potter hit Hartnell and then all of the Flyers started ganging up and picking on Potter for it.

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Yeah hard to argue that the Oilers deserved this game.


Can we please never ever ever ever see Petrell on the top line again?
Thank God. Been saying this since he created that debacle of a line. I know what Renney is trying to do, but in the process, he is hurting the offensive confidence of Ebs and RNH b/c Petrell is a grinder, and not a playmaker. Put petrell with Hemmer and Horc. And the kid line re-unite, so we have a legit no. 1 line

C'MON!

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03-06-2012, 05:45 AM
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Thank God. Been saying this since he created that debacle of a line. I know what Renney is trying to do, but in the process, he is hurting the offensive confidence of Ebs and RNH b/c Petrell is a grinder, and not a playmaker. Put petrell with Hemmer and Horc. And the kid line re-unite, so we have a legit no. 1 line

C'MON!
Considering this year is a write off, I'm thinking Renney doesn't care much about winning a meaningless game like this one. And I don't fault him one bit for trying to experiment line combos for next year. Face it, the fans are the only ones who think this season is anything but a write off.

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Considering this year is a write off, I'm thinking Renney doesn't care much about winning a meaningless game like this one. And I don't fault him one bit for trying to experiment line combos for next year. Face it, the fans are the only ones who think this season is anything but a write off.
I actually don't mind experimenting with grinders on the 1st line, be it Petrell, Eager or why not Harti (I know he hasn't been lighting up the AHL lately but anyway). Point is that you never know what will make this type of player click. Look at Stalberg in Chicago or Hagelin in NYR. Stalberg was a player that many (including Swedes) thought was basically done, or destined to be a 4th liner, in NA before he came to Chicago and managed to click with their top players (even though he still goes back to play checking lines from time to time). Hagelin wasn't even on the map before he was called-up this autumn but he managed to translate his duracell-game to NHL level and now he's on with Richards and Callahan on a top team in the league...

These are still not top guys in terms of production but their style of play manage to raise the others playing with them (or maybe more appropriately they provide them more space and time). If we could find that kind of player somewhere in our ranks it would be a freaking dream imo. For a while I thought that Jones could fill that role but unfortunately he didn't "click enough" with our top players, despite his energy.

(the reason I brought up two Swedes is of course that I am a Swede and it is easier for me to know examples of Swede players off the top of my head, I am sure there are many examples of players of other nationalities as well)

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03-06-2012, 09:10 AM
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I actually don't mind experimenting with grinders on the 1st line, be it Petrell, Eager or why not Harti (I know he hasn't been lighting up the AHL lately but anyway). Point is that you never know what will make this type of player click. Look at Stalberg in Chicago or Hagelin in NYR. Stalberg was a player that many (including Swedes) thought was basically done, or destined to be a 4th liner, in NA before he came to Chicago and managed to click with their top players (even though he still goes back to play checking lines from time to time). Hagelin wasn't even on the map before he was called-up this autumn but he managed to translate his duracell-game to NHL level and now he's on with Richards and Callahan on a top team in the league...

These are still not top guys in terms of production but their style of play manage to raise the others playing with them (or maybe more appropriately they provide them more space and time). If we could find that kind of player somewhere in our ranks it would be a freaking dream imo. For a while I thought that Jones could fill that role but unfortunately he didn't "click enough" with our top players, despite his energy.

(the reason I brought up two Swedes is of course that I am a Swede and it is easier for me to know examples of Swede players off the top of my head, I am sure there are many examples of players of other nationalities as well)
Cleary and Clutterbuck come to mind as well, as guys who get time on the top 6 or top line. There really is nothing to lose, I'm sure there will be other things tried down the stretch.

As for the game yesterday. Hiller stood on his head. That's really what it came down to.

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03-06-2012, 09:16 AM
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Just watched the highlights of the game and they didn't show the lack of calls. Does this mean that TSN is in on it too?
The Hemsky trip non-call made me sick to my stomach. Not only was it obvious, but Hemsky looked to be injured once again. I'm just glad he came back.

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Just watched the highlights of the game and they didn't show the lack of calls. Does this mean that TSN is in on it too?
Yes, all media that ignore the sudden, dramatic and bizarre scenario of suddenly, out of no where all refs across the league putting their whistles up their ***** are to blame as well. It's their job to report on the nhl and the games and as usual these guys will be the last to the buffet table.

The quality of NHL reffing as a whole has been from atrocious to embarrassing over the last 2 years league wide. By far the worst I've seen in all the years I've watched hockey.

There is no question at all that the refs are consciously calling many less penalties out of the blue with nothing from the nhl or the refs on the subject. The players and the paying customer have no idea at all what is or isn't a penalty.

Evidence is mounting that games are being down right manipulated by the refs and that there is some agenda.

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03-06-2012, 09:34 AM
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Fail for Nail is back on. Columbus is heating up

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To be fair, the media - who often do not gripe about the officiating because it's considered somewhat bush-league to do so - have commented on the lack of calls league-wide. It's been mentioned during the games by commentators, during pre- and post-game panels and in newspaper articles.

The officiating was also a theme in Renney's post-game scrum last night. So, it's not like it's being ignored.

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Pennertration was talking about tonight I don't know what your point is.
Taylor Hall shows more heart then Hemsky EVERY NIGHT including last night. That's my point.

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Taylor Hall shows more heart then Hemsky EVERY NIGHT including last night. That's my point.
Shiny new toy syndrome ... Hemsky has shown plenty of heart in his time with the Oilers, to the point he's banged up and injury prone, which oddly is the reason fans don't like him anymore.

If you compare most players to Hall, they're going to lose the "heart" battle ... and it doesn't really account for differing styles of play either (Eberle and RNH don't appear to display as much heart as Hall either - but whether they do or not is a matter of opinion).

Doesn't change the fact that Hemsky was NOT garbage last night ... far from it.

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I never really thought that. They should be a playoff team looking at their roster. Getzlaf, Perry, Ryan, Selanne still producing at a high clip, Hiller is decent, Visnovsky, Fowler, etc.
You get by those 5 or 6 though and they've got NOTHING. I was surprised at how bad their depth really is.

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Taylor Hall shows more heart then Hemsky EVERY NIGHT including last night. That's my point.
To be fair, Taylor Hall shows more heart than anyone else in the league

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Of course!! He had a great game..minus 2 for that matter. Reminded me ALOT of that big guy that was once and Oiler and is having a terrific season out in LA if you know what I mean.
Hemsky had a decent game and created a lot in the 2nd. If I'm not mistaken, the -2 came from Ryan's goal which Hemsky had nothing at all to do with and the empty netter which again Hemsky had nothing to do with.

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whitney did say he lost a step, and might never get it back...imo if thats case try move him to a puck possession team where his slowness wouldn't be that big of an issue.
Neither of his goal causing errors were speed related, they were simply bad puck handling.

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Yes, all media that ignore the sudden, dramatic and bizarre scenario of suddenly, out of no where all refs across the league putting their whistles up their ***** are to blame as well. It's their job to report on the nhl and the games and as usual these guys will be the last to the buffet table.

The quality of NHL reffing as a whole has been from atrocious to embarrassing over the last 2 years league wide. By far the worst I've seen in all the years I've watched hockey.

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Evidence is mounting that games are being down right manipulated by the refs and that there is some agenda.
Iknew the second Ducks went up 2 the Oilers were getting a pp because the game was out of reach. It is obvious the NHL wants all teams with a chance in it till the last possible moment. Expect the Oilers Canadiens Hurricanes And Blue jackets to get biased reffering here on out .Last nights game was to obvious.

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