Schiestel looked great before his injury. I thought he was almost NHL ready last year. Haven't seen him recently, but this is disappointing. I think he will play in the big leagues for someone.
A reassignment isn’t a trade, it’s just that, a reassignment. The Sabres will still retain his rights and before they assigned him they likely advised him or his agent that they plan to walk away from his contract at the end of the season or did this just so that he could play and not sit around.
The Texas Stars are currently in last place in the Western Conference so it could be a way to keep Drew Schiestel in action instead of just sitting around the stands in Rochester waiting for someone else to get injured, like I just mentioned above. The Stars are in last place so it’s not as if this could benefit the Stars in the standings for their playoff push.
Well, nice to see that they are weeding out defensemen.
I didn't want it to be Schiestel though.
Regardless, some decisions will have to be made this summer.
Assuming Schiestel is now gone, they have three RFA defensemen and possibly three newcomers (Gauthier-Leduc, D. MacKenzie, and Pysyk).
If they let Morrisonn, Persson (RFA), and Sulzer go, there will be possibly nine defensemen fighting for eight spots.
We have six contracted defensemen for the big team next year and the only spot available is the spare.
Do we let a young, inexperienced defenseman waste away there or sign a utility guy?
I'm in the camp that thinks we need to clear a spot for McNabb, but that's another discussion..
In Rochester, we already have Brennan (RFA), Biega (RFA), Crawford, Finley, M. MacKenzie, and McNabb.
They will be joined by Gauthier-Leduc, Pysyk, and possibly D. MacKenzie.
None of the contracted defensemen deserve to be in Gwinnett (M. MacKenzie has spent some time there but I personally want him in the AHL next year) and the only incoming one that should realistically be there is D. MacKenzie.
Even if one player from Rochester takes the spare spot on the Sabres, there's still no room for a veteran presence in Rochester and someone will be a spare.
No worries though, we can trade all of our bottom pairing defensemen for skilled forwards with legitimate potential.
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Thus why I kept telling everyone in the vote for a prospect thread that this team is still high on Persson.
If he's still in their plans, they're high on something, that's for sure.
Yeah, I figured that if someone gets a look for the playoffs, it would be those two.
I want to see D. MacKenzie given a look in Gwinnett since his season is now over (he's still in school right now on spring break).
Rimouski is a longshot to do anything IMO, especially if they stay at the #7 position (in the Q, they'd play against the #8 overall team).
Pysyk and the Oil Kings should go far though, so he likely won't have the opportunity.
Well, nice to see that they are weeding out defensemen.
I didn't want it to be Schiestel though.
Regardless, some decisions will have to be made this summer.
Assuming Schiestel is now gone, they have three RFA defensemen and possibly three newcomers (Gauthier-Leduc, D. MacKenzie, and Pysyk).
If they let Morrisonn, Persson (RFA), and Sulzer go, there will be possibly nine defensemen fighting for eight spots.
We have six contracted defensemen for the big team next year and the only spot available is the spare.
Do we let a young, inexperienced defenseman waste away there or sign a utility guy?
I'm in the camp that thinks we need to clear a spot for McNabb, but that's another discussion..
In Rochester, we already have Brennan (RFA), Biega (RFA), Crawford, Finley, M. MacKenzie, and McNabb.
They will be joined by Gauthier-Leduc, Pysyk, and possibly D. MacKenzie.
None of the contracted defensemen deserve to be in Gwinnett (M. MacKenzie has spent some time there but I personally want him in the AHL next year) and the only incoming one that should realistically be there is D. MacKenzie.
Even if one player from Rochester takes the spare spot on the Sabres, there's still no room for a veteran presence in Rochester and someone will be a spare.
No worries though, we can trade all of our bottom pairing defensemen for skilled forwards with legitimate potential.
If he's still in their plans, they're high on something, that's for sure.
I'd let Biega go personally. Crawford, as much as I've been a fan of him in the past, is a replaceable commodity as well. I'd go with this:
Brennan Finley
Pysyk M. MacKenzie
Gauthier Leduc Crawford
D. MacKenzie
(which side they play can be switched, but I like these pairings so hopefully they work out)
Mcnabb in Buffalo as the rotating 6th D with Weber.
Schiestel will be back and in the mix. Brennan should make the move up. Buffalo needs to package one of the higher paid d men or let regehr retire. Brennan has some skill sets that they need up there. His offense is needed. He should replace weber, not sure what he brings to the table.
Package a couple of d guys for some of the offensive help they are lacking. From what i see, they still can't put the puck in the net in buffalo consistenly.
Schiestel will be back and in the mix. Brennan should make the move up. Buffalo needs to package one of the higher paid d men or let regehr retire. Brennan has some skill sets that they need up there. His offense is needed. He should replace weber, not sure what he brings to the table.
Package a couple of d guys for some of the offensive help they are lacking. From what i see, they still can't put the puck in the net in buffalo consistenly.
I'd let Biega go personally. Crawford, as much as I've been a fan of him in the past, is a replaceable commodity as well. I'd go with this:
Brennan Finley
Pysyk M. MacKenzie
Gauthier Leduc Crawford
D. MacKenzie
(which side they play can be switched, but I like these pairings so hopefully they work out)
Mcnabb in Buffalo as the rotating 6th D with Weber.
I've never really been a fan of Biega either, but Brennan won't be waiver exempt next year so you can't really count on him being there.
He hasn't done much in the NHL, but he's shown well in the AHL, so some teams that suffer injuries may go after him.
He's the type of utility guy they should have as #7, IMO.
I've never really been a fan of Biega either, but Brennan won't be waiver exempt next year so you can't really count on him being there.
He hasn't done much in the NHL, but he's shown well in the AHL, so some teams that suffer injuries may go after him.
He's the type of utility guy they should have as #7, IMO.
I personally think Brennan could make the jump to #7. Thing is, then if a move is not made, you've got McNabb and Brennan with the other 6 in Buffalo and the 7 I listed in Rochester with Biega for Brennan. Unless the trade that you were talking about happens, I don't see 8 defensemen, with 2 rookies sitting most nights in Buffalo. What's your ideal lineup for both Buffalo and Rochester? I'm curious on this.
Schiestel looked great before his injury. I thought he was almost NHL ready last year. Haven't seen him recently, but this is disappointing. I think he will play in the big leagues for someone.
He was Sabres top prospect and was slated for the team. Hope he finds his game.
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Quote "Loaning Schiestel was a chance to give him playing time.* The third-year defenseman was, at best, No. 8 on the Amerk depth chart and probably wouldn’t have played again unless their were injuries.
That’s quite the fall from grace.
“If you would have asked our people last year, he would have been the top defensive prospect,” Devine said.
Since then, however, two serious knee injuries stunted his progress. The first came in late January of 2011. He needed the rest of the season to recover. Then on opening night this season he was hurt again. His*play regressed as a result.
“He never did really find his game after that,” Devine said. “We certainly haven’t given up on Drew as a prospect. But we do have decisions to make this summer on defensemen. This will give Drew a chance to play and hopefully he can find his game and make our decision easy this summer.”
Schiestel, Alex Biega, T.J. Brennan and Dennis Persson all become restricted free agents on July 1. The Sabres must decide whether to tender qualifying offers, and thus maintain their rights,*or cut them loose.
The Sabres placed on stipulation on the Schiestel loan: he must play. “We didn’t want someone bringing him just to be an insurance policy,” Devine said. “He had to play and he had to be on their clear-day roster.”
Devine said eight teams were interested in Schiestel, six of which were in the Western Conference. “We didn’t want to move him to any teams that are in a dogfight with Rochester,” he said. ." unquote
Weber hasn't been so great as to be a sure thing for next year. McNabb provides the same if not more physical play, with the added element of being able to work the PP point.
It also wouldn't surprise if TJB is used as a piece in one of their summer moves. He's pretty much ready to graduate and with McNabb ahead of him and the way Ruff leans on Leopold, who is the guy I think they should be trying to upgrade but won't.
Mcnabb and brennan move up and we have two much more inexpensive d men more then capable of playing in the NHL. Have not seen to much out of what is up there now. Can't see where there would be to many locks on positions up there.
Lets face it, if miller wasn't standing on his head the last few weeks, the losing streak would continue. The lineup needs a change and we can spend the money on offense.
When the shut down guys are close to -30 with no points, what would it be if miller wasn't the goalie?
Well, nice to see that they are weeding out defensemen.
I didn't want it to be Schiestel though.
Regardless, some decisions will have to be made this summer.
Assuming Schiestel is now gone, they have three RFA defensemen and possibly three newcomers (Gauthier-Leduc, D. MacKenzie, and Pysyk).
If they let Morrisonn, Persson (RFA), and Sulzer go, there will be possibly nine defensemen fighting for eight spots.
We have six contracted defensemen for the big team next year and the only spot available is the spare.
Do we let a young, inexperienced defenseman waste away there or sign a utility guy?
I'm in the camp that thinks we need to clear a spot for McNabb, but that's another discussion..
In Rochester, we already have Brennan (RFA), Biega (RFA), Crawford, Finley, M. MacKenzie, and McNabb.
They will be joined by Gauthier-Leduc, Pysyk, and possibly D. MacKenzie.
None of the contracted defensemen deserve to be in Gwinnett (M. MacKenzie has spent some time there but I personally want him in the AHL next year) and the only incoming one that should realistically be there is D. MacKenzie.
Even if one player from Rochester takes the spare spot on the Sabres, there's still no room for a veteran presence in Rochester and someone will be a spare.
No worries though, we can trade all of our bottom pairing defensemen for skilled forwards with legitimate potential.
If he's still in their plans, they're high on something, that's for sure.
I agree, however my friend who is high up in the organization told me that. They think he is smart
This is definitely great for Schiestel as well as the Texas Stars. Texas is definitely struggling with D men and Schiestel will get plenty of playing time there. Good for him, but hopefully he doesn't bite us in the end (ala Thorburn).
Weber hasn't been so great as to be a sure thing for next year. McNabb provides the same if not more physical play, with the added element of being able to work the PP point.
It also wouldn't surprise if TJB is used as a piece in one of their summer moves. He's pretty much ready to graduate and with McNabb ahead of him and the way Ruff leans on Leopold, who is the guy I think they should be trying to upgrade but won't.
Agreed about Brennen. He's NHL-ready (and has been outstanding recently) but behind McNabb on the depth chart at this point. There's no way they sign him this summer to sit him in Rochester for another year. Either they move him in a trade, or they bring him up as a No. 7, which likely means someone else goes in a trade, thus freeing a spot for McNabb in the top 6. Either way, somebody is going in a trade.
Likely trade bait as I see it based solely on the depth chart: Brennen, Adam, Gerbe.
Weber hasn't been so great as to be a sure thing for next year. McNabb provides the same if not more physical play, with the added element of being able to work the PP point.
It also wouldn't surprise if TJB is used as a piece in one of their summer moves. He's pretty much ready to graduate and with McNabb ahead of him and the way Ruff leans on Leopold, who is the guy I think they should be trying to upgrade but won't.
I agree that they should move leo for something. He's been good for sure, alot better than I expected actually, but he would definitely be valuable in a trade, and it seems like mcnabb/brennan would be ready for at least some time up here next year. I wouldn't mind seeing something like
Myers-McNabb (if he can handle it)
Sekera-Weber
Regehr-Ehrhoff
and then use leo as part of a trade with roy to try to get an established 1st line center coming back
I personally think Brennan could make the jump to #7. Thing is, then if a move is not made, you've got McNabb and Brennan with the other 6 in Buffalo and the 7 I listed in Rochester with Biega for Brennan. Unless the trade that you were talking about happens, I don't see 8 defensemen, with 2 rookies sitting most nights in Buffalo. What's your ideal lineup for both Buffalo and Rochester? I'm curious on this.
I want Leopold traded, but as Chain mentioned and I mentioned after last night's game, Ruff loves the guy for whatever reason.
Weber is a guy I'm on the bubble about, but I'm going to wait to decide what I want done with him until the season's over.
If he's retained though and McNabb makes the team, that'd mean that half of the defensemen would lack footspeed, which would be a big problem.
As far as the defense in Rochester, there are a lot of variables there.
Brennan is probably ready to move on from the AHL, so make him the #7 in Buffalo or trade him.
If they keep Leopold, keeping McNabb in the AHL for another year of seasoning can't hurt.
The top six in Rochester would then be Crawford, Finley, Gauthier-Leduc, M. MacKenzie, McNabb, and Pysyk.
I haven't looked around at veteran options yet, but it's difficult for me to want to add one to that group.
They don't have a lot of experience but I want them getting minutes.
A vet swingman would work nicely, though.
If they sign him, D. MacKenzie would probably be a good guy to stash in the Coast.
Move on from the rest (Biega, Fienhage, Morrisonn, Persson, Schiestel, Sulzer), whether it's through trade or simply letting them go.
Or, instead of letting Schiestel go, they could trade the more player that likely has higher value (Brennan) and give Drew the #7 spot to see what they have.
Too many options.
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I agree, however my friend who is high up in the organization told me that. They think he is smart
Ha, I don't know what they're watching then.
He makes boneheaded plays more often than smart plays.
He won't be cracking our lineup any time soon, he's just too far down the depth chart.
When the Sabres made Schiestel available on Monday to other AHL teams, they wanted assurances that he would play for the new club.
“We certainly haven’t given up on Drew as a prospect,” said Kevin Devine, director of amateur scouting for the Sabres who oversees Amerk hockey operations. “But we do have decisions to make this summer on defensemen. This will give Drew a chance to play and hopefully he can find his game and make our decision easy this summer.”
