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11-09-2004, 06:13 PM
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All-Time Team

If you had to put together in an all-time team to put in a hockey game, what would it be?

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If you had to put together in an all-time team to put in a hockey game, what would it be?
Ted Lindsay Wayne Gretzky Mike Bossy
Bobby Hull Phil Esposito Gordie Howe
Bob Gainey Brian Trottier Jari Kurri
Luc Robitaille Steve Yzerman Guy Lafleur

Eddie Shore Bobby Orr
Ray Bourque Larry Robinson
Doug Harvey Paul Coffey

Grant Fuhr
Ken Dryden

Nobody beats this team...

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11-09-2004, 06:51 PM
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Mario Lemieux Wayne Gretzky Gordie Howe
Guy Lafleur Jean Beliveau Rocket Richard
Bobby Hull Mark Messier Mike Bossy
Bob Gainey Guy Carbonneau ???

Bobby Orr Doug Harvey
Paul Coffee Denis Potvin
Ray Bouque Larry Robinson

Patrick Roy
Terry Sawchuk
Jacques Plante
Dominik Hasek (ALA 1998-1999)

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Toe Blake
Scotty Bowman

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I won't use any players that I didn't witness playing.

Messier - Gretzky - Kurri
Shanahan - Lemieux - Jagr
Krutov - Yzerman - Makarov
Lindros - Clarke - Bossy

Orr - Chelios
Potvin - Bourque
Lidstrom - Fetisov

Hasek
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11-09-2004, 08:09 PM
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I won't use any players that I didn't witness playing.

Messier - Gretzky - Kurri
Shanahan - Lemieux - Jagr
Krutov - Yzerman - Makarov
Lindros - Clarke - Bossy

Orr - Chelios
Potvin - Bourque
Lidstrom - Coffey

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How could you choose Shanahan, Jagr, Lindros and Clarke and not Guy Lafleur?

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How could you choose Shanahan, Jagr, Lindros and Clarke and not Guy Lafleur?
I'm trying to win the game and I want

Kurri to play with Gretzky
Jagr to play with Lemieux

I want a physical winger to play with Lemieux-Jagr.

Clarke - I want a defensively aware, great penalty killer, great face-off man that can also be a great playmaker.

Lindros - need some more size, to go along with Messier & Shanahan.

I didn't pick the 20 prettiest players. I thought about winning a game.

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11-09-2004, 08:38 PM
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Not to disrespect you nor your opinion but if you have seen Lafleur you would know that he was the go to guy and in key situations always scored or made the play which lead to the canadiens winning. Did you forget the famous goal Lafleur scored with 1 minute remaining in the stanley cup final where Boston was leading 3-2 and then Montreal won. What about in 1977 when Lafleur assisted in both Jacques Lemaire goals in the winning game? Not to mention he had 6 straight 50 goal seasons and 6 straight 120+ point seasons, 3 straight hart and art ross trophies, a conn smythe trophie and you think its not good enough to win a game much less help win a game?


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Ted Lindsay Wayne Gretzky Mike Bossy
Bobby Hull Phil Esposito Gordie Howe
Bob Gainey Brian Trottier Jari Kurri
Luc Robitaille Steve Yzerman Guy Lafleur

Eddie Shore Bobby Orr
Ray Bourque Larry Robinson
Doug Harvey Paul Coffey

Grant Fuhr
Ken Dryden

Nobody beats this team...
The same team with Lemieux instead of Robitaille "beats this team".

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Not to disrespect you nor your opinion but if you have seen Lafleur you would know that he was the go to guy and in key situations always scored or made the play which lead to the canadiens winning. Did you forget the famous goal Lafleur scored with 1 minute remaining in the stanley cup final where Boston was leading 3-2 and then Montreal won. What about in 1977 when Lafleur assisted in both Jacques Lemaire goals in the winning game? Not to mention he had 6 straight 50 goal seasons and 6 straight 120+ point seasons, 3 straight hart and art ross trophies, a conn smythe trophie and you think its not good enough to win a game much less help win a game?
It doesn't mean I don't think that LaFlauer was a great player, but there are only somany spots.

Yes LaFleur was better than Kurri and some others on this team, but I chose to build a team and I factored in chemisty while selecting my team.

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11-10-2004, 12:23 PM
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Not to disrespect you nor your opinion but if you have seen Lafleur you would know that he was the go to guy and in key situations always scored or made the play which lead to the canadiens winning. Did you forget the famous goal Lafleur scored with 1 minute remaining in the stanley cup final where Boston was leading 3-2 and then Montreal won. What about in 1977 when Lafleur assisted in both Jacques Lemaire goals in the winning game? Not to mention he had 6 straight 50 goal seasons and 6 straight 120+ point seasons, 3 straight hart and art ross trophies, a conn smythe trophie and you think its not good enough to win a game much less help win a game?
Not to disrespect your opinion, but Mario Lemieux and Guy Lafleur aren't left wingers, and you couldn't come up with a fourth right winger, so leave his team alone.

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The same team with Lemieux instead of Robitaille "beats this team".
Putting Sawchuk in net instead of Fuhr would be a huge upgrade as well.

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I Would Say...

Hull - Gretzky - Kurri
Dionne - Howe - Lafleur
Gainey - Lemieux - Shutt
H. Richard - Beliveau - M. Richard

Orr - Tremblay
Bourque - Shore
Robinson - Coffey

Vladislav Tretiak
Patrick Roy
Ken Dryden

Scotty Bowman
Hector "Toe" Blake
Pat Burns

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I Would Say...

Hull - Gretzky - Kurri
Dionne - Howe - Lafleur
Gainey - Lemieux - Shutt
H. Richard - Beliveau - M. Richard

Orr - Tremblay
Bourque - Shore
Robinson - Coffey

Vladislav Tretiak
Patrick Roy
Ken Dryden

Scotty Bowman
Hector "Toe" Blake
Pat Burns
Who's Tremblay? You mean JC??
Hey, welcome to the boards by the way, even if you are another Habs Fan!!

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Kovalev10 and I have pretty similar lineups. I don't think sticking Guy at left wing is too inaccurate. He was before my time, but I've read about him being pretty versatile and I can remember watching him being the architect of some great plays over there.

Obviously, I've watched few of these guys in real-time action (I'm 21), but I like what I've seen on tape, and read and heard.

Mario Lemieux- Wayne Gretzky- Mike Bossy
(the puck would spend more time in the net than in play)

Guy Lafleur- Jean Beliveau- Maurice Richard
(grace, class, and fire, elite scoring line, just not quite as elite as the one above it)

Ted Lindsay- Bryan Trottier- Gordie Howe
(roles are getting less offensive, so I'll stick some tough and/or good two way players on the third... too talented for me to leave off this team! They'd still get their goals.)

Bob Gainey- Guy Carbonneau- Jere Lehtinen
(to shutdown on command... though I don't know how useful they'd be with every game ending 12-1.)

Bobby Orr- Ray Bourque
Larry Robinson- Denis Potvin
Rod Langway- Paul Coffey

Patrick Roy
Ken Dryden

Of course, guys like Harvey, Clarke, Mahovlich, they could all stick on this team. I did pick some personal favorites in place of players that could fit better.

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Who's Tremblay? You mean JC??
Hey, welcome to the boards by the way, even if you are another Habs Fan!!
Yeah, I mean JC, that one of the great defensive defenseman of the history of hockey... underrated i think.

By the way, thanks for the welcome

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1st Line: Krutov - Gretzky - Bobby Clarke
2nd Line: Kharlamov - Lemieux - Howe
3rd Line: Mark Messier - Trottier- Claude Lemieux
4th Line: Gainey - Carbonneau - Provost
Spares: Shanahan, Makarov, Larionov.

1st Pairing: Orr - Chelios
2nd Pairing: Lidstrom - Fetisov
3rd Pairing: Stevens - Bourque
Spare: Langway

Starting Goaltender: Hasek
Backup Goaltender: Roy

Press Box: Kirk McLean (not the best but he is a good team player, and that is important in a 3rd string goaltender in my view).

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no brett hull? A guy that has scored 700+ career goals and no one takes him?

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no brett hull? A guy that has scored 700+ career goals and no one takes him?

He doesn't care about the fans, so I guess now it's getting reciprocated.

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I truly don't believe that the players of the past can fill the shoes of the players of today. Yes, I believe that Dany Heatley is better than Guy LaFleur. There is so many places to get Talent: Russia, Sweden and better overall minor hockey growth. There is no way that Gordie Howe would be able to play the same in todays game.... That's why my team would be.

Kurri- Gretzky- Jagr
Shanahan- Lemieux- Hull
Neely- Francis- Bure
Tkachuk- Forsberg- Bossy

(all in prime)

Bourque- Potvin
Pronger- Coffey
MacInnis- Blake

(all in prime)

Brodeur
Hasek

Coach: Bowman

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I'm assuming we're going by how dominant these guys were in their era, rather than comparing everybody on the same level

Neely - Lemieux - Jagr just go home defense and goaltenders, nobody would stop these guys
Howe - Gretzky - Kurri - I dont know if Kurri is among my top 12 all time but if you go back and pick him up during his prime, he had unbeleivable chemistry with Gretzky.
Bobby Hull - Jean Beliveau - Maurice Richard3 snipers who all worked hard and paid the price
Gainey - Trottier - Clarke - You know what this line does

Orr - Harvey
Park - Lidstrom
Bourque - Robinson
Chara - simply for his size and intimidation

Roy
Brodeur
Tretiak

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11-18-2004, 11:21 PM
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I truly don't believe that the players of the past can fill the shoes of the players of today. Yes, I believe that Dany Heatley is better than Guy LaFleur. There is so many places to get Talent: Russia, Sweden and better overall minor hockey growth. There is no way that Gordie Howe would be able to play the same in todays game....
Thats the single absolute funniest joke in history!!!!

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makes no sense to pick Howe over Messier IMO. Moose was not only more of a winner and a leader, but he was just as good offensively (better numbers) and just as mean and competitive.

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1st Line: Krutov - Gretzky - Bobby Clarke
2nd Line: Kharlamov - Lemieux - Howe
3rd Line: Mark Messier - Trottier- Claude Lemieux
4th Line: Gainey - Carbonneau - Provost
Spares: Shanahan, Makarov, Larionov.

1st Pairing: Orr - Chelios
2nd Pairing: Lidstrom - Fetisov
3rd Pairing: Stevens - Bourque
Spare: Langway

Starting Goaltender: Hasek
Backup Goaltender: Roy

Press Box: Kirk McLean (not the best but he is a good team player, and that is important in a 3rd string goaltender in my view).
ok who are they going to play against?

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Thats the single absolute funniest joke in history!!!!
in your opinion. The players today are faster taller and stronger. They also use curved sticks as well as come from an alot larger talent pool. Today there are so many kids playing hockey while back then they were strictly from Canada and the minor leagues for kids were alot worse.

The players of today are alot better. Just thinking about the LaFleur comment... I think he could still play todays game(not as well though) I do think anyone drafted before 1965 could not handle the competition of new age hockey and would be maybe AHL players at most or 3rd-4th liners. Also remember the goalies did not go down... Gordie Howe would have scored much easier on Jacques Plante than Bure would on Roy (Butterfly style)

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I won't use any players that I didn't witness playing.

Messier - Gretzky - Kurri
Shanahan - Lemieux - Jagr
Krutov - Yzerman - Makarov
Lindros - Clarke - Bossy

Orr - Chelios
Potvin - Bourque
Lidstrom - Fetisov

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Same with me here are mine

Messier-Gretzky-Br. Hull
Gartner-Lemieux-Neely
Brian Sutter-Otto-Tikkanen
Nystrom-D.Hunter-Probert

Stevens-Bourque
Langway-MacInnis
D.Wilson-Chelios

Roy
Fuhr

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