Yeah, I read that yesterday and couldn't believe the idiot actually beat up another Wings fan who wanted to stop him from assaulting visitors!
I hope someone saw something or that's there's surveillance video. I can't stand it when people can't go to something that's supposed to be fun for people--- families, kids, etc. -- and turn it into British soccer fan hooliganism.
Blues fan here. I live in Toledo so I make it up to a game every year. I find the fans to be friendly and while you may get the "Blues suck" yelled at you, I have never been threatened or felt threatened. Usually wear my jersey and have never had an issue.
This act doesn't represent 99.999% of all wings fans.
Honestly, with the way booze is consumed at most sporting events, I think it could happen anywhere.
I go to Wings games in San Jose, and its been a long time since I've felt safe wearing a Wings jersey to the games. Alcohol is a key factor in many fans' unacceptable behavior.
I did too when reading the headline. In any event this is terrible, I hope they throw the book at this guy, aggravated assault and battery enjoy Jackson, MI buddy.
I go to Wings games in San Jose, and its been a long time since I've felt safe wearing a Wings jersey to the games. Alcohol is a key factor in many fans' unacceptable behavior.
i think people are nuts when the wear their team's jersey to an opposing team's arena
Blues fan here. I live in Toledo so I make it up to a game every year. I find the fans to be friendly and while you may get the "Blues suck" yelled at you, I have never been threatened or felt threatened. Usually wear my jersey and have never had an issue.
This act doesn't represent 99.999% of all wings fans.
Honestly, with the way booze is consumed at most sporting events, I think it could happen anywhere.
A long time ago when I was a little kid, I went to the U of M vs. Michigan State Desmond Howard trip game in all Spartan gear. People screaming cursing out a kid for an late heartbreaking victory and one really drunk fan threatening me harm when I was 8 years old. I also was the unfortunate witness to a guy getting stomped at the Silver Dome during a Monday night game for wearing Rams gear during a blow out. The cops only arrested the Rams fan. The last time I will ever wear visitor colors was when I went to a Bears vs. Lions game in Lions gear around then later in Chicago. Had Hansen not missed three field goals that day, I think me and my buddy might have been in some trouble as the 0-11 Lions almost beat the Bears and the stands turned ugly over how close that game was.
It is sad that this happens, but I have heard several national media types say gone are the days you should do this. I am beginning to agree, with the Giants fans beating and the shooting during the preseason 49ers v. Raiders game. It just doesn't seem to be worth it, I still threw on my Detroit hat with the Old English D when I went to a Hawks v. Wings game earlier this year, but left my Yzerman and Lidstrom jerseys in my closet. Sadly it only takes one idiot and I can root for my team without dressing up on the road. Sucks that it has come to that though.
I remember reading about a SF Giants fan who was savagely beaten by a couple Los Angeles Dodger fans, just truly disgusting excuses for human beings. It's unfortunately true that this type of thing can happen anywhere.
I go to Wings games in San Jose, and its been a long time since I've felt safe wearing a Wings jersey to the games. Alcohol is a key factor in many fans' unacceptable behavior.
My Brother lives out in San Fransisco and we went to a game around Christmas Sharks vs. Kings. Got a few Wings sucks comments just from wearing a Tigers hat. The HP Pavilion has a rowdy crowd for sure, felt bad for the guy in our section that showed up in Kings gear, he took a lot of verbal abuse without saying boo to other fans. Some of it was funny but he had his kid with him and lots of it was bad. Now I am not of the belief sporting events are family friendly, but if the guy isn't engaging in trash talk and is overall respectful, I don't understand how it continues to escalate. He actually looked kind of relieved when Clowe buried the shootout winner.
i think people are nuts when the wear their team's jersey to an opposing team's arena
alcohol can make people do bad and stupid things
You should be able to wear whatever jersey you want to a game, and if alcohol is really going to become that large of a problem, maybe selling it needs to be reconsidered. That, or it's time to start cutting people off far earlier in the game.
You should be able to wear whatever jersey you want to a game, and if alcohol is really going to become that large of a problem, maybe selling it needs to be reconsidered. That, or it's time to start cutting people off far earlier in the game.
Oh stop. Alcohol or not, people are responsible for their actions.
I remember wearing a Blue Jays cap to the Jays-Tigers series at Tiger Stadium in 1987.
You get 45,000 people shaking the building down to its foundations, you realize really the sheer power of a mob. I kept my Jays cap on. But had Manny Lee not made that error, and the Tigers not won, I'd probably have tucked that Jays cap in my pocket.
If I was an Avs fan in the late 90s early 2000s, I'm not sure I'd wear a Claude Lemiuex jersey to the Joe. That is not to say I'd deserve getting assaulted by a punk. But come on.
All that said, alcohol or not, I hope the guy who did this is caught, convicted and jailed.
You should be able to wear whatever jersey you want to a game, and if alcohol is really going to become that large of a problem, maybe selling it needs to be reconsidered. That, or it's time to start cutting people off far earlier in the game.
What people should be able to do and what is the reality are often two very different things. Alcohol could be a factor and often times is, but as CB stated below your post it is an awful excuse. It is almost to the point now when it is trotted out as an excuse it should just double the punishment. Plenty of us drink without problems arising, if you cannot find yourself to be one, than you should be punished for being unable to hold yourself to simple societal norms such as not driving and endangering others or assault on other people. 20,000 other fans who handle things acceptably should not have to only get beer in the first period because some knucklehead cannot handle his/her liquor. Not to mention most of the people that generally have this problem are having a few before the game, so what now are you going to breathalyze everyone at the door? Slippery slope my friend, in this day age with cell phone how pictures and video of stuff like this aren't readily available are stunning to me.
You can wear your own teams colors but you do so at your own peril. To look at it otherwise is to deny a worldwide history of sad stories like this at sporting events. That person is still the victim and deserves sympathy and I hope they catch the moron who did this. But to turn around and pretend this is unheard of is not factual either. It is still disappointing and embarrassing but never the less an unfortunate fact, showing up in the opponents garb for a game is not the smartest decision.
People with sad existences look for any reason to vent and make other people suffer. I feel sorry for all people involved in that incident, and the bully is gonna find that he's only taken his life from crap to utter hell.
Oh stop. Alcohol or not, people are responsible for their actions.
I remember wearing a Blue Jays cap to the Jays-Tigers series at Tiger Stadium in 1987.
You get 45,000 people shaking the building down to its foundations, you realize really the sheer power of a mob. I kept my Jays cap on. But had Manny Lee not made that error, and the Tigers not won, I'd probably have tucked that Jays cap in my pocket.
If I was an Avs fan in the late 90s early 2000s, I'm not sure I'd wear a Claude Lemiuex jersey to the Joe. That is not to say I'd deserve getting assaulted by a punk. But come on.
All that said, alcohol or not, I hope the guy who did this is caught, convicted and jailed.
Where did I say they weren't responsible? I said that if it was becoming a problem, something should probably be done. I never saw the necessity to have a beer at a game, though, too. If beer disappeared from the concession stands, I wouldn't really care.
I don't think there is any "come on" that should be accepted in this, either. It's a sporting event. You should not have to worry about risking your safety just because of the shirt you wear. Yes, the reality is that there's always the possibility of someone being an idiot, but that doesn't mean we make excuses for it.
What people should be able to do and what is the reality are often two very different things. Alcohol could be a factor and often times is, but as CB stated below your post it is an awful excuse. It is almost to the point now when it is trotted out as an excuse it should just double the punishment. Plenty of us drink without problems arising, if you cannot find yourself to be one, than you should be punished for being unable to hold yourself to simple societal norms such as not driving and endangering others or assault on other people. 20,000 other fans who handle things acceptably should not have to only get beer in the first period because some knucklehead cannot handle his/her liquor. Not to mention most of the people that generally have this problem are having a few before the game, so what now are you going to breathalyze everyone at the door? Slippery slope my friend, in this day age with cell phone how pictures and video of stuff like this aren't readily available are stunning to me.
You can wear your own teams colors but you do so at your own peril. To look at it otherwise is to deny a worldwide history of sad stories like this at sporting events. That person is still the victim and deserves sympathy and I hope they catch the moron who did this. But to turn around and pretend this is unheard of is not factual either. It is still disappointing and embarrassing but never the less an unfortunate fact, showing up in the opponents garb for a game is not the smartest decision.
I never said it was a good excuse, nor did I say it was definitely the problem.
What bugs me is what I bolded, though. As I just said to Bob, in reality, there's always the possibility of an idiot being an idiot and doing idiotic things. That doesn't mean we make excuses for it. It's a sporting event. You should be able to wear whatever shirt or hat you like (and I'd appreciate it if everyone wore pants). There shouldn't be any, "well, the guy should have known better for wearing that shirt." The guy who attacked him was wrong and he should be punished. That should be it.
The last time I will ever wear visitor colors was when I went to a Bears vs. Lions game in Lions gear around then later in Chicago. Had Hansen not missed three field goals that day, I think me and my buddy might have been in some trouble as the 0-11 Lions almost beat the Bears and the stands turned ugly over how close that game was.
