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With Grabovski signing for $5.5 million/year, how much do you think Olli signs for in the summer? Personally speaking I wouldn't sign him for anything more than $4 million, but I wouldn't be surprised if he gets close to $5 million on the open market. He's actually having a better season and is more proven than Grabovski.
Last edited by flameaholic: 03-06-2012 at 05:45 PM.
With Grabovski signing for $5.5 million/year, how much do you think Olli signs for in the summer? Personally speaking I wouldn't sign him for anything more than $4 million, but I wouldn't be surprised if he gets close to $5 million in the open market. He's actually having a better season and is more proven than Grabovski.
At 33 I'd think that reduces his value a tad - but realistically he could get 3 years at around $5 million per
Jokinen, if staying in calgary, will probably sign for what he makes now in return for a NTC. Glencross took a big cut for it, I'm sure Feaster will try and do the same for Bic Mac.
Jokinen has never shown he is about the money, he has expressed an interest to finish his career in Calgary and I could see him signing a 4-5 year deal with a lower cap hit. Honestly if the Flames give him a NMC and a long term deal, I wouldn't be shocked if his cap hit remained the same
Jokinen has never shown he is about the money, he has expressed an interest to finish his career in Calgary and I could see him signing a 4-5 year deal with a lower cap hit. Honestly if the Flames give him a NMC and a long term deal, I wouldn't be shocked if his cap hit remained the same
Someone would step up and offer 5 in free agency, so I can't see him taking a 2 million a year cut in pay to stay in Calgary. Maybe up to 1 million a year for favourable term and a NMC, but any more then that I would think is a bit of a pipe dream.
My guess is 4 years $14.4 million with a NMC. Maybe front loaded a bit, with the NMC coming off in the final season. Very similar to the Tanguay deal in both term and dollars.
Team also sends him all the McDonald's coupons mailed to the front office.
since olli is much better than grabo but much older, i say he gets 5.5 per over 2 years unless he actually gives flames a discount.
but i say its better for flames to part ways anyway. let cammaleri try his luck as the number one and let the kids play. (backlund, byron etc.)
I wouldn't say he is "Much Better" than Grabo. He does put up more points, but If it came down to it I would take Grabo over Jokinen because I think Grabo is about to reach his Prime + he's younger, works harder and shows a lot of heart out there.
if i was signing him i would hate to sign him to a long term deal... but the cash is going to have to meet the market and the market is pretty clearly established at around 5 mill per
im guessing if its a short term deal then someone will be offering 5... but jokkinen will have the option to take the 'discount' and get security if security is more important to him. there are enough teams needing a top 6 center that someone will get stupid and offer a 4-5 year deal even at this age.
calgary isnt too likely to be a playoff team for awhile now... might not be the best place to resign if making the playoffs is important. jokkinen has played on crap teams his entire career so he might not care if he ever makes the playoffs or not.
if i was jokkinen though i would put more of a priority on joining a team with a chance to win and getting long term security with that team. it will most likely cost him for his overall cap hit.
so my gut call is at least 3.5 and probably closer to 4.5 on a 4-5 year deal with some decent team where he would slot in as the second line guy on the depth chart and get himself a ntc
if i was signing him i would hate to sign him to a long term deal... but the cash is going to have to meet the market and the market is pretty clearly established at around 5 mill per
im guessing if its a short term deal then someone will be offering 5... but jokkinen will have the option to take the 'discount' and get security if security is more important to him. there are enough teams needing a top 6 center that someone will get stupid and offer a 4-5 year deal even at this age.
calgary isnt too likely to be a playoff team for awhile now... might not be the best place to resign if making the playoffs is important. jokkinen has played on crap teams his entire career so he might not care if he ever makes the playoffs or not.
if i was jokkinen though i would put more of a priority on joining a team with a chance to win and getting long term security with that team. it will most likely cost him for his overall cap hit.
so my gut call is at least 3.5 and probably closer to 4.5 on a 4-5 year deal with some decent team where he would slot in as the second line guy on the depth chart and get himself a ntc
To be fair to Olli, I think that it might be family that is more important to Jokinen than being in the playoffs.
In an interview just after signing his last contract he said that when he was about to hit free agency last time out he asked his girls where they thought he should go, they said Calgary, he told them it probably wouldn't happen. Then when Calgary contacted him he had already decided he would sign there and just wanted his NMC.
It shouldn't be shocking to anyone if the same values still hold true for Olli, if his wife and daughters want to stay in Calgary he will be back and very likely at a discount.
I know this is a hockey message board so this might not be the most popular opinion, but family trumps career and thus family trumps winning.
Jokinen has never shown he is about the money, he has expressed an interest to finish his career in Calgary and I could see him signing a 4-5 year deal with a lower cap hit. Honestly if the Flames give him a NMC and a long term deal, I wouldn't be shocked if his cap hit remained the same
People tend to forget that a player actually gets reemed out by the NHLPA for taking a huge paycut, and in this case a 2 million dollar cut to leave on the table just might not be feasible. The rest of the league wouldnt be too happy with Olli driving the price down on the rest of them.
I think Olli takes a cut and signs for 4 over 3 years, which will be a steal if he continues to play like he is
People tend to forget that a player actually gets reemed out by the NHLPA for taking a huge paycut, and in this case a 2 million dollar cut to leave on the table just might not be feasible. The rest of the league wouldnt be too happy with Olli driving the price down on the rest of them.
I think Olli takes a cut and signs for 4 over 3 years, which will be a steal if he continues to play like he is
its become commonplace in recent years for players to take lower cap hits for security (NMC/NTC and longer terms). Jokinen could get a contract with a cap hit of 3 million without taking well below market value. It's all in how the deal is structured.
If Jokinen signs a deal for 5 years and it was structured like this I hardly see the union making a big deal out of it.
Year 1: 4.5 million (age 33)
Year 2: 4.0 million (age 34)
Year 3: 3.25 million (age 35)
Year 4: 2.25 million (age 36)
Year 5: 1.0 million (age 37)
Damn Grabo! Based on his contract Jokinen could easily ask even 6$ which we all know is too much.
Don't worry. he won't get over five. I'll be surprised if he gets five. Maybe 4.5per over a 3 year span... but his year to year consistency is pretty bad so I wouldn't even sign him to that.
Based on his contract Jokinen could easily ask even 6$ which we all know is too much.
